When he finally comes out, we'll have to bump this thread and add another layer.
― cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:29 (thirteen years ago)
it's not generalized at all. the song -- which ffs is called "new slaves" -- makes the implication very specific. the opposite reading is the one that's generalized.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:30 (thirteen years ago)
THINGS CAN MEAN MORE THAN ONE THING
everyone gets the meaning you're talking about. it's a super-obvious additional meaning, the engine that gives the line metaphorical bite, that you are failing to admit for no reason i can understand.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:33 (thirteen years ago)
you know, that old cliche about swallowing culture, that thing that slaves do, duh
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:35 (thirteen years ago)
hmm yes it's almost as if "slaves" might have more than one meaning hmmm
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:37 (thirteen years ago)
person who swallows things?
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:43 (thirteen years ago)
hmm yes it's almost as if it's a metaphor hmm yes
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:45 (thirteen years ago)
I don't really care strongly about that line but j0rdan you're being dense
― MIGUEL 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE (The Reverend), Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:46 (thirteen years ago)
j0rdan can you please edit the rap genius entry, these guys are totally in the dark
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:46 (thirteen years ago)
hahaha if the implication of that post is that rap genius users side with your side of the argument, then i have some bad news for you...
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:47 (thirteen years ago)
man i miss deej
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:55 (thirteen years ago)
this "all vs one" thing is making me so nostalgic
i'd rather be one who excels than a viking
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:56 (thirteen years ago)
no i just think it would be hilarious classic RG shit if the entry for that lyric explained that a swallower is someone who is "swallowing" what the media or the government tells you (or "swallowing" culture)
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:56 (thirteen years ago)
of course it's a metaphor. but "person who swallows things" is not a typical meaning of the word "slaves". this metaphor acquires one of its primary dimensions from juxtaposition with the word "dick". dicks, as i'm sure you know, have been known to produce fluid. certain parties have been known to ingest that fluid. i would hope you could take it from there...
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 23 May 2013 01:57 (thirteen years ago)
wait wait is that what's throwing deej?
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:01 (thirteen years ago)
sorry i mean jordan?
all you goons post all the same things
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:06 (thirteen years ago)
wow, all this over one rap lyric
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:12 (thirteen years ago)
it's a metaphor
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:13 (thirteen years ago)
What a thread.
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:16 (thirteen years ago)
not even a GOOD lyric, one of the worst in the song
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:17 (thirteen years ago)
you're gonna make me come to your hampton house and go bobby boucher
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:18 (thirteen years ago)
ha ok
honestly the SNL songs are second best to "Awesome" for me
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:21 (thirteen years ago)
to be clear, i'm not up in arms about the lyric per se, i'm just sick of people thinking their lack of personal offense over something like this means anything more than that they're either distanced or desensitized. also ironic coming from somebody who's written articles about the subject that get those "what's the big deal?" comments.
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:22 (thirteen years ago)
he'd rather be getting his dick sucked than be sucking some dick, is what he's saying. obviously like j0rdan says it's deeper than he doesn't want to suck dicks and has to be understood in the context of what the track is trying to say-- but i guess if it makes you feel uncomfortable, it makes you feel uncomfortable, even if you can listen past the surface meaning and i think everyone here is capable of that.
alright?
― dylannn, Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:36 (thirteen years ago)
in the history of fucked up kanye lines, this one is mild and mediocre, too.
― dylannn, Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:41 (thirteen years ago)
that's the thing "it's a metaphor" i get. "it's not offensive, because it's a metaphor" i don't. and yeah, the fact that people are bothering to defend a mediocre metaphor makes it rankle even more.
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:41 (thirteen years ago)
that's what i'm saying, though. people offended by it aren't stupid enough to not be able to see it's a metaphor. it's about not wanting to suck dicks and even if it's a metaphor, it's still offensive.
j-0 needs to quit trying to break it down rapgenius style for people that already get it.
― dylannn, Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:45 (thirteen years ago)
or he could take on now she claim that i bruise her esophagus / head of the class and she just want a swallowship.
― dylannn, Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:46 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SoKFycTmVU
― tarping, Thursday, 23 May 2013 04:48 (thirteen years ago)
haha i forget that that hadn't been posted yet
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 23 May 2013 04:49 (thirteen years ago)
when you guys gang up on me i'm always right though
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 23 May 2013 06:05 (thirteen years ago)
uh
― MIGUEL 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE (The Reverend), Thursday, 23 May 2013 07:20 (thirteen years ago)
i wish i could like that post deej
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 May 2013 07:37 (thirteen years ago)
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:05 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
well I guess a lotta n----- do gang bang / and if we run trains, we all in the same gang
― 乒乓, Thursday, 23 May 2013 12:24 (thirteen years ago)
Hi deej :-)
― unfinest DN (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 May 2013 12:46 (thirteen years ago)
More projections tonight and through the weekend, apparently.
― thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Friday, 24 May 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)
and uh there's multiple pictures floating around of one specific accidentally-leaked iTunes tracklist, for what that's worth.
― thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Saturday, 25 May 2013 00:41 (thirteen years ago)
I thought both of the SNL songs were dope
― ḉrut (crüt), Saturday, 25 May 2013 02:14 (thirteen years ago)
tracklist seems real, kinda weird
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 25 May 2013 03:50 (thirteen years ago)
https://twitter.com/aclu/status/338080399299338240
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 25 May 2013 03:56 (thirteen years ago)
Somebody post the track list
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 25 May 2013 03:58 (thirteen years ago)
Lol "Ma$e"
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 25 May 2013 04:01 (thirteen years ago)
yo I would pay mad dollars for a ye/mase collabo
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 25 May 2013 04:02 (thirteen years ago)
mase was on cruel summer so it wouldn't be a surprise if he was on this album
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 25 May 2013 04:05 (thirteen years ago)
Oh for real
I never bothered with the whole thing
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 25 May 2013 04:06 (thirteen years ago)
So James Blake might be this album's token white guy?
And who is "Lonne Chia"? I can't find any info on this person.
― MarkoP, Saturday, 25 May 2013 04:09 (thirteen years ago)
the "lonnie chia" thing is so aggravating... it took me 1.5 seconds of googling to figure this out
http://lorinechia.com/
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 25 May 2013 04:13 (thirteen years ago)
i'm admonishing bloggers, not markoP
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 25 May 2013 04:14 (thirteen years ago)