6/7/2011, imma drop that body work / fuck my brains out double single (TERIUS NASH aka THE-DREAM, LOVE IV: anticipation and adoration)

front third of this is sort of a mess

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:43 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

does anyone who had already heard this have the production credits?

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:44 AM (2 minutes ago)

All Nash everything except:

Equestrian (Nash/McKinney)
Where Have You Been (Nash/Da Internz/Miykal Snoddy)
Self-Conscious (Nash/McKinney)
Holy Love (Nash/McKinney)

3 los tracks! somebody grab k3vin a towel.

andy k, thumbs up, thumbs down?

way too much of the stuff i hated about "love king" here -- aimless half-sung ballads, lower-register mumblecore -- and too little of the bright, hooky stuff that makes him good.

i don't know how anyone could end the album with "slow it down" and not think it's the most enjoyable thing here

Either neither or down.

Certainly not up.

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way too much of the stuff i hated about "love king" here -- aimless half-sung ballads, lower-register mumblecore -- and too little of the bright, hooky stuff that makes him good.

It's true that there's not a lot of the bright, hooky stuff, but I think the storyline here is that he's getting better at the other sounds. He's trying a lot of new things on this record, and a lot of them work really well. I like that he's trying to advance his sound instead of just relive past glories.

the song with kelly sounded good on the tonight show last night. or at least she sounded good.

Who is McKinney?

Not... CYNTHIA McKinney?!? Lol

kevin's being a bit fatalistic

there's some stuff on here that's not very good but "IV play"/"equestrian"/"where have you been"/"too early"/"michael" stand up with mostly anything off his three other albums

i need to listen more to everything else after michael tho

mckinney is los da mystro, one of dream's longtime co-producers

"mostly everything!" who are you?!

lol

also again it really sucks that the original beyonce track got cut from this, it would be like pulling "fancy" off love vs money or something

"mostly everything!" who are you?!

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:20 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

those songs are great and could be dropped into any of the other three albums and no one would bat an eye

also again it really sucks that the original beyonce track got cut from this, it would be like pulling "fancy" off love vs money or something

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:22 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark

I really wish I had remained ignorant about this

now that we're talking about LOS tho i guess this sort of fits into what you guys were discussing on the goon thread (i think) a while ago - the decline of the performer-producer relationship and the increased reliance on fad producers and guests. obviously terius has always had a hand in his own productions but his gradual drifting away from tricky and los does coincide with an appreciable drop in quality

yeah definitely. gradually hearing the difference between tricky and los and how they each played off the songwriting is a huge part of the pleasure of those albums for me. he's a lot mushier and less detailed a producer.

hmm can someone let the thread know when this leaks in decent quality? i'm not listening to a vevo stream of terius of all people, i may be sceptical but i at least want to give him a chance to shine

like, i don't know how you can be a dream stan not just totally adore "michael" or "IV play" or "equestrian"

the little outro on michael is so classic terius -- "dirty diana, hop up in this phantom..."

Holding out for a decent rip over here. Don't want to ruin the first impression.

longneck and i as one on terius at last

longneck will love this

the vevos sound fine btw

Yeah it's not too bad tbf but more power to you holding out.

Equestrian was really lame to me.

"turnt" is great and also puts in relief the failures of "high art" and "pussy"

glad that pussy got put in relief

really enjoying this still

i'd probably find 1977 extremely leaden if i listened to it after this

Yeah, mercifully this positions 1977 as an outlier, not the beginning of an irreversible slide

man i'm all "the horns in 'loving you' are incredible" and then it immediately shifts into this kinda dull glitchy section :\

RIP the liveblogging from 2009

too early is epic as hell if i dont play this every summer night i just dont know

see me silhouette the sunset w/ my top down
top back, see me ridin
million dollar benz rims glidin
top down, gold watch
100 stacks spent on my glock (?)

holy love is really nice

heh i thought that was the worst song on the album

My stream of this expired over the weekend, and I can't wait to hear it again. Probably going to buy the deluxe edition on Tuesday; I think it will be the first time I've bought a deluxe edition of an album since Love King

That's like the scourge of crit-Dom now, the expiring stream

if only his label would put a stream of the album up

kevin's being a bit fatalistic

surely this is not the kells we know!

Stream is up on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpAOYL4T_OE&list=PLG9zGdKjNW2-Ubd0L4XhzLWWClKIFYaHT

this is... quite good.... actually. would happily go so far (so very, very far) as to rate it above love king i think

trashy but persuasively consistent about it. feels more like just an honest skeezy dude dealwithit.gif and not so much the repetitious and crassly lumpen barrel-scrapings of a former poet

i mean like "maybe put my dick on it / over the weekend" has gotta be some sort of genius right

last few trax are pretty weaksauce though

"self-conscious" is pretty dope i think, as far as the final few tracks go

yeah more so as a tranche than individually i guess

trashy but persuasively consistent about it. feels more like just an honest skeezy dude dealwithit.gif and not so much the repetitious and crassly lumpen barrel-scrapings of a former poet

i guess we're just looking at opposite sides of the same coin - to me it seems he's got nothing left to say, which is fine when he falls back to those exercises in terius-dom that made me like him originally ("iv play", "slow it down") but when he rehashes his most amelodic, aimless material from LK i just can't deal with it.

on one listen my reaction is pretty much "pleasant and mild surprise that it's not as bad as i thought it would be (except when it is)" - felt like every so often there were flashes of new ideas but rarely followed through, the skeeziness enables terius not to fall on his face but there weren't very many real highs? i mean no matter what you think of love king it has "sex intelligent" and "yamaha"

"michael" is nice but there's a palpable lack of vitality there, like compare it to "take u home to my mama" for instance

still can't believe rtc turns his nose up at "slow it down"

i think "too early" was the stand-out on first listen for me, "turnt" was fun in a generic way (as is "high art", vaguely)

"pussy" and "equestrian" were terrrrible, "michael" drifted past rather, "loving you/crazy" had a few nice sounds but compared to all his big epics previously it's just inadequate

yeah "loving you/crazy" is just a complete stinkbomb, i take back everything i said about "abyss"