Oh, you've got green eyes Oh, you've got blue eyes Oh, you've got Poll eyes: NEW ORDER Artist poll #37 (voting ends May 26 Midnight Pacific)

By love "Waiting for the Sirens' Call" I meant the song... The album itself is OK, but loses steam midway as mentioned above.

Speaking of losing steam, I just listened to Republic for the first time in years. The first half sounds better than I remember, but the stretch of songs between "Young Offender" and "Avalanche" really draaaaags, though I like those two tracks themselves.

What I really love about early New Order is it seems like the songs are built around Steve's drums. This seems less apparent after PC&L.

I really like Special from the second half of Republic, the strings at the end are a bit of an obvious Unfinished Sympathy rip off but it's a great tune.

this discography even has videos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Order_discography

What I really love about early New Order is it seems like the songs are built around Steve's drums. This seems less apparent after PC&L.

I relistened to PC&L at the weekend and the drumming really stood out, 'Age of Consent' in particular.

I'm a casual New Order fan compared to many but shortlisting my favourite tracks gave me 40-odd songs to work with.

Somehow I just realized that for a band that's been active (for the most part) for 30+ years, they don't have a very large catalogue.

5 albums in the 80s (plus Substance) then 3 since 1990 means their discography is a bit lopsided on that score.

Five albums in the 80's but they all have just eight or nine songs on them.

my favourite band ages 13-16, formative experience etc. has been fun going back to songs i haven't listened to in 15+ years, early singles & first two albums still sound amazing, then things get v sporadic.
vote Procession/Everything's Gone Green!

Yeh, Procession is a bit overlooked, coming between Ceremony and Blue Monday. I love the way a pop song suddenly bursts out of that wonky keyboard wash, and Steve does those crisp snare rolls at the end.

Sent Mine.

and me mine.

hmm, are we seeing poll fatigue here?

I thought the New Order poll thread would be very, very busy here on ILM.

i got my 40 unranked songs together, there is one album i took every song of. besides that i think i enjoyed relistening to sonic youth more than relistening to new order. there were hardly any surprises here whereas i had forgotten about quite a lot of sonic youth stuff.

Ballot sent, and I greatly enjoyed listening to some of the newer albums that I hadn't given much attention to. As for the old stuff, it's never off my playlist.

I'll vote because it's easy but I don't have much to say; we talk about this band a lot

the only struggle is figuring out how to find 40 songs to rank over "Blue Monday" because fuck that; or should I say, I will rock the shack

Yeah it feels like people do obviously love this band but a lot of it has been covered on the many threads about them.

Don't worry too much about 'poll fatigue', when I did the Fall one, about half the entries arrived on the final weekend

I was totally planning to use this poll as an excuse to revisit the entire New Order discography in chronological order. However, my experience revisiting Movement was waaaaaay different than it was the better part of a decade ago. Always struck me as tentative juvenalia, but now the weird crossbreed of JD and NO elements was too interesting and unique to dismiss. If I stuck to a ballot of stuff that didn't require reassessment it'd basically be hits plus a bunch of Low-Life and Brotherhood, so I think I'm gonna sit this one out (my faves are sure to place high anyway) and use it as a tool for when I do reinvestigate the whole magilla

pretty curious to read your responses

11 ballots received so far. will email a response if you don't receive then resubmit your ballot.

thanks everyone!

Think I have my list ready. The hardest part was deciding which album tracks I'd have from Low-Life and Power Corruption & Lies. All the other albums I knew exactly which songs would be on my list but these two are such solid albums I found it hard to pick out individual songs for some reason. My albums list was easy, now I've just got to figure out which videos to go for.

btw, i have received some unranked ballots. if you don't want to rank them that is OK as well, just tell me they are unranked.

Voted! Just realised I numbered my choices and it says not to at the top. Bee, let me know if you need to send it again without the numbers.

3 since 1990 means their discography is a bit lopsided on that score.

Well, 4 now haha. Not even the poll was enough to get me to check out Lost Sirens yet.

Surprised I could come up with 40 tracks I like. I think of them as a band with very high highs and a lot of mediocre tracks, not to mention many short albums. But nothing on my ballot is mediocre (maaaaybe #40), and my top 5 tracks are all-time jams.

the numbers are not a problem. i said No need to number them but you can number them. in fact most of the ballots have numbers.

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My ballot is definitely ranked, btw

I didn't put numbers on mine, but it's 1-40 from the top.

Yeah mine is 1-40 from the top as well.

this is due on the 26th? new order is so great, but i def prefer the guitar side to the rubbery dance music side and i'm not ashamed to admit it. that's just how my instrument is tuned, i guess.
anyway, i have no idea what ilx consensus is so i have to ask - age of consent is well liked, yes? (i hope the answer is yes)

like i need another assignment in life but hey, it shouldn't be that hard. i know my favorites as well as i know any songs i know.

actually, that's not true -- i like both sides of new order, i just have a preference for movement-era sound over technique-era sound
brotherhood is somewhere in the middle, low life is at the top.

i think demographic info is interesting with new order too-- i wasn't friends with a single girl in high school (89-93) who didn't like at least one new order song. i had a tshirt with a rainbow usa flag on it. i wore it to my cousin's graduation party. we lived in ohio, usa. that's basically what new order reminds me of: adolescence.

ha well my favorite NO albums are Movement and Technique so

i don't know about ilm but i don't like age of consent at all. it is a stinking ballad. new order have so many great tunes but age of consent isn't one of them. that song goes absolutely nowhere. the singing is terrible as well. for me it belongs into the bottom 10% of the new order catalogue. but i am sure there are defenders...

xp - i'm not arguing or saying what's best, just what i personally prefer -- it's pretty clear (to me at least) that my feelings about new order songs were decided when i was an intellectual and emotional tadpole.

haha! you don't really hate age of consent, do you? are you pulling my leg?!

I love "Age of Consent", & wtf at it being a ballad?

i've been listening to it and am unable to locate the ballad

"thieves like us" -- that could be a ballad
love love
lovelovelove

xp see, i knew there would be lovers. i don't hate it but i'd rather never listen to it again. pcl isn't my fave album by them neither. for me a ballad is a song without a distinctive melody but with a kind of solemnity. not sure if that always nails it but in 90% of the cases it does, i reckon. thieves like us is great btw. it is a song with a great hook and lots of dancing potential. but maybe i am pretty off the money concerning ballads. am i?

the problem is that the word "ballad" actually has a real definition and when you use it with your made up definition, no one will understand what you are talking about

most things people call "ballads" aren't even ballads they're just slow love songs

i am a lover! and that song is not a ballad. i know what a ballad is.

Movement was the last album I got, sometime in fall '92 when it was reissued. I fell for "Senses" and "Dreams Never End" before the latter got overplayed in the mid nineties. I recoiled from the JD-isms while at the same time reveling in how well they replicated the sound. Now I think it's excellent in its own right – a sound captured at the moment of its decadence.

I bought Movement in 1989 on cassette and remember vividly putting myself into a trance at journalism camp listening to "The Him" on my Walkman in a dorm room with no air conditioning

Age Of Consent is awesome and will land in the top twenty. Top ten poss.

ok good
that's more like it

definitely in my top 10. Like Blue Monday, its not a conventional song by anyone's yardstick, although I guess there's more of a hook. A song like True Faith would stand up on an acoustic guitar; you can't really separate Age of Consent from its instrumental components. That's one of the qualities that made NO unique.

I vehemently disagree about "Age of Consent" not being separable from its arrangement

xp movement is such a weird album. it is made by a different band. in between joy div and new order. the same people as new order but still on the joy division trip. it is my favourite album by new order. there is not one weak song, it all falls into place. ian is hanging in his room and they just continue making music. i really admire them for having continued.

age of consent is not my #1 favorite NO song though
just for the record
i just wondered if it was well liked

i totally agree what you wrote about true faith dr x, it is a song which can stand on its own, it can be played on acoustic guitar without losing its qualities. but additionally it is a new order song i love because it has a great hummable melody and deep inside it is very melancholic, especially when bernard sings it in his quite flat voice. like all great new order songs. blue monda like age of consent on the other side do nothing for me at all. to me they seem soulless dance robot numbers.