Daft Punk's Random Access Memories

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lol @ For a man who has spent 12 years pretending to be a robot, he takes a remarkably dim view of digital music.

ḉrut (crüt), Sunday, 19 May 2013 17:42 (thirteen years ago)

Great interview Dorian! Stands out compared to the loads of interview I read already!

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 19 May 2013 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

Yep, it's a good read. Steer clear of the comments though.

shantalla (seandalai), Sunday, 19 May 2013 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

I keep hallucinating weird little quotes of familiar music inside the interstices of the new Daft Punk album

for example, the bassline / main melody on "Beyond" sounds uncannily like "I Can't Forget" by Michael McDonald

and there's a little phrase/riff in "Instant Crush" that is eerily like a fragment of "Layla" by Eric Clapton

am I just hearing things, or is this part of the RAM effect?

the tune was space, Sunday, 19 May 2013 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

You're not alone on that one!

The opening of the album makes me go "She's an easy lover!", and in most of the songs there are these musical quotes. I don't mind though, I think it's great that an album with original music can remind me of so many things. So many different tunes, too.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 19 May 2013 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, it seems totally consistent with their intended nostalgia-on-shuffle aesthetic

wish the "weird" parts were weirder and longer though- there's these tasty sparkly drippy efx-heavy concrete moments at the start of "Touch" and in the middle of "Motherboard" that could be extended / pushed further.

Personally, I love the deliberate trolling effect of "Touch"'s Broadway vibe (reminds me of the Dracula puppet theater musical at the end of "Forgetting Sarah Marshall", honestly) and the nastiness of "Fragments of Time"- it contributes to the decadent/overripe/lavish feeling

the tune was space, Sunday, 19 May 2013 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

when Panda Bear sings "If you lose your way tonight, that’s how you know the magics right" all I can think of is "Rudolph with your nose so bright...

dsb, Sunday, 19 May 2013 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

the nastiness of 'Fragments of Time'??

(While I don't know what you mean by that, it is with 'Fragments of Time' that I most recognise what LBI is takling about - the subtle microcutting that comes in makes it sound like a bunch of soft & yacht rock classics torn up, thrown around, and pulled back together. And my accidental mental mashups keep pulling me in different directions.)

ohmigud (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 19 May 2013 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

Has the microsample of "Fragments of Time" been ID'd? This is probably too obvious but I keep hearing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CIKNOiajU4

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 19 May 2013 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

great interview/history, DL

gr8080, Sunday, 19 May 2013 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

reminds me of the Dracula puppet theater musical at the end of "Forgetting Sarah Marshall", honestly
― the tune was space, Sunday, 19 May 2013 18:26 (2 hours ago) Permalink

I think of this whenever I hear scott walker

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 19 May 2013 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

re: Fragments of Time, by "nastiness" i meant that it produces a queasy sensation of funkiness-meets-anachronistic-lurching-back-to-what-just-might-still-be-"bad"-music, a kind of historical panic feeling ala the hapless Simpsons alterna-teen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2QrWzsfghA

where pleasure has a whiff of paranoia and disgust already built-in

or what Elizabeth Freeman called "historical drag"

the tune was space, Sunday, 19 May 2013 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

ah right. I definitely have that with 'Touch'. Having recently felt that I'd lost the sense of what 'cheesy' etc can even mean in a musical context it was nice to have that bracing encounter.

ohmigud (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 19 May 2013 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

One thing I found interesting from DL's piece, which was probably mentioned elsewhere that I'd missed, was that RAM was self-financed and by implication Columbia was dealing with a take-it-or-leave-it finished product. Doubtless there's more to it but that seems to be key.

I also appreciate how they're not bothering with a tour.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 19 May 2013 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

Well noted, and both things deserve to be mentioned on this thread, Ned.

I think I know what Dr3w means, and I have that, just like Merdeyeux, esp. with 'Touch'. But not for it could conjure a feeling of it being "cheesy" (the meaning of that phrase in itself being a "man I don't even know anymore" thing for me), but rather that it brings to mind music, or musical styles I often times dislike (or loathe), like Disney music, or musicals. Yet they spin it in such a way that I overcome that when listening to it, and it becomes a new entity of its own.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 19 May 2013 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

"wish the "weird" parts were weirder and longer though"

yes, what this guy says!

scott seward, Sunday, 19 May 2013 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

i am super curious how much this PR blitz pays off in terms of sales. it's one thing if they're touring cause that's a lot of money to be made but if the bottom line is album sales I wonder what the trade off was in terms of marketing/publicity costs and the number of records sold.

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 19 May 2013 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think they committed that much? a few SNL ads, screentime at coachella

乒乓, Sunday, 19 May 2013 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

seems really efficient actually

乒乓, Sunday, 19 May 2013 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

i wonder

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 19 May 2013 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

yeah but the cost in helmet polish alone

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 May 2013 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

marketing costs probably recouped in the itunes exclusive alone

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 May 2013 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, they probably did a lot of in kind trade; daft punk name carries weight
just wondering who is gonna take a page from this book going forward
kanye already projecting his head on buildings; don't want to see where this arms race ends
http://www.chartattack.com/features/2012/09/13/9-bizarre-artist-merch-items-2/

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 19 May 2013 22:42 (thirteen years ago)

itunes just delivered my pre-order. sounds a bit clearer than the 320 cd (?) rip.

apparently it's "mastered for itunes", which sounded ominous, but seems to just means the mastering engineer could preview how what they delivered to apple would end up sounding? http://images.apple.com/itunes/mastered-for-itunes/docs/mastered_for_itunes.pdf

caek, Sunday, 19 May 2013 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

℗ 2013 Daft Life Limited under exclusive license to Columbia Records, a Division of Sony Music Entertainment

caek, Sunday, 19 May 2013 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

All these interviews are making me think of them as Jay and Silent Bob

The Reverend, Monday, 20 May 2013 01:26 (thirteen years ago)

or penn and teller?

this album (AND the sequencing) is really growing on me.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 20 May 2013 02:03 (thirteen years ago)

every damn time I play "Within" I hear "Against All Odds (Take a Look At Me Now)."

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2013 02:06 (thirteen years ago)

Well that was humiliating...thought I'd physically buy an album on its day of release for the first time in an age and realised that there wasn't a wrecka store in about a 10 mile radius...so resorted to going to my local Sainsbury (Sainsbury!!!) to purchase it (I wonder if they do a 'value' version of it)...had a an illuminating conversation with the cashier about the sonic lushness of it and the new Kurt Vile album and then he told me there was a 'special' on all Asparagus...Yeezus wept...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Monday, 20 May 2013 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

lol, did you buy any asparagus?

Pasty, British & Shit (wins), Monday, 20 May 2013 10:02 (thirteen years ago)

Asparagus isn't really what it was in 1997, now it's like Disneyfied asparagus or something. No one who really likes vegetables would even bother with it now.

Matt DC, Monday, 20 May 2013 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

Has this been posted here yet? http://www.peterserafinowicz.com/blog/mark-e-smith-vs-daft-punk/

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 20 May 2013 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

haha matt

for real tho, feel like samphire is the headz choice these days

Pasty, British & Shit (wins), Monday, 20 May 2013 10:17 (thirteen years ago)

yes xp. can someone start a serafinowicz thread to keep his stuff there? : (

caek, Monday, 20 May 2013 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

Headed for a US #1.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2013 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.gregwilson.co.uk/2013/05/random-access-moroder/

Crackle Box, Monday, 20 May 2013 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

sfj: "I replay parts of “Random Access Memories” repeatedly while simultaneously thinking it is some of the worst music I’ve ever heard."

http://newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2013/05/27/130527crmu_music_frerejones

gr8080, Monday, 20 May 2013 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18028-daft-punk-random-access-memories/

scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2013 13:52 (thirteen years ago)

Am I the only one who's gone from thinking SFJ was a fantastic writer to not really caring what he says about anything anymore?

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 20 May 2013 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

I generally don't either but he's mostly otm.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2013 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

in that piece

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2013 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

So Random Access Memories got the exact same Pitchfork score as Kaputt did, which was also reviewed by Mark Richardson. Coincidence? Probably.

MarkoP, Monday, 20 May 2013 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

had a an illuminating conversation with the cashier about the sonic lushness of it and the new Kurt Vile album

― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Monday, May 20, 2013 2:57 AM (4 hours ago)

lol, i bought a vinyl copy of the new KV yesterday and am currently listening to it for the first time*. my first thought was "this is at least as good a comparison point for random access memories as kaputt."

* an excellent album, btw, don't know why i put it off for so long

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Monday, 20 May 2013 14:04 (thirteen years ago)

Haven't read the review, but Mark is an excellent writer. Not surprised that he reviewed it, because if anyone can make a strong case for a divisive album it's him. Wouldn't be surprised if the same though was behind the Destroyer review.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 May 2013 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

Like, if I saw whatever number grade the review got, and it was written by Ian Cohen, I wouldn't bother. But with Mark's name attached, I'm going to give it a read.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 May 2013 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

that is their highest rating for a Daft Punk studio album by a good margin

frogbs, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

The score comes with the preceding cover-story as a package-deal.

Evan, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

In 2007, Kanye West’s single “Stronger” used a sample from the song, and helped nudge hip-hop toward the sounds of the club.

why the fuck do ppl say stupid shit like this

AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Monday, 20 May 2013 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

I increasingly don't understand SFJ's approach of describing bit by bit how a track proceeds. Ellen Willis was explaining pop to NYer readers over 40 years ago and she didn't feel obliged to do that. Just get to the big picture argument. It feels here that he's describing tracks in detail in lieu of getting off the fence and saying if he likes them or not. He makes some elegant points along the way but if I were a NYer reader who wasn't particularly pop-savvy I'd have no idea whether to check out the record.

Also smh that he singles out Giorgio By Moroder as a dud. I don't think I've ever recovered my respect for his taste since he said Let England Shake was PJ Harvey's worst album.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 20 May 2013 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

The score comes with the preceding cover-story as a package-deal.

― Evan, Monday, May 20, 2013 10:09 AM (12 minutes ago)

daft punk truth now!

gr8080, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:22 (thirteen years ago)


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