Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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speaking of field recorded traditional music and virgil anderson and county records -- they also put out two volumes of Music From The Cumberland Plateau, on which Anderson appears. Great collections all around and with great booklets and liner notes.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 17 May 2013 18:52 (thirteen years ago)

Just keep harrassing him on ILM, surely he will cave in at some point. Some people just do not do facebook, or have it together in other places but do not "interact" on facebook beyond having a profile. I mean, you have to be his prime demographic for those, though he does live close to Vermont. Maybe there is a secret following for that music in the area? (sorry, don't wanna stoke any paranoia here ....)

grandavis, Friday, 17 May 2013 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty sure Gangloff has referenced the Tennessee Folklore Society directly a few times btw

grandavis, Friday, 17 May 2013 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

the new glenn jones is great too! man

it's been a really great year for this kinda stuff between great new stuff and great archival releases....almost too much to consume

random access mammaries (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 May 2013 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

checking this dude out over on bandcamp: http://seanproper.bandcamp.com/

tylerw, Monday, 20 May 2013 21:19 (thirteen years ago)

just picked up an album i don't think i've ever seen mentioned here, deseret canyon by the paper hats, which was william tyler's previous solo project.

http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0001/768/MI0001768515.jpg?partner=allrovi.com

also:

http://gottagrooverecords.com/files/2012/04/okf.jpg

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 20 May 2013 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

yeahhh oh be joyful might be better than seven pines i think (though they're both in the same vein).
haven't heard the paper hats thing! need to...

tylerw, Monday, 20 May 2013 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

if it is better than Seven Pines I def need to hear it!

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Monday, 20 May 2013 23:20 (thirteen years ago)

that william tyler lp is incredibly good fwiw. i just happened upon it in the 'p' section.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:37 (thirteen years ago)

For anyone that missed the playlist link, I have kept it updated with things mentioned itt:

http://open.spotify.com/user/theshipment/playlist/2WNjL5jGiUHaSu5CFkN9Xg

Lemme know if something is missing

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:42 (thirteen years ago)

It is time to revel in Jack Rose for a bit. Just got the Arthur issue with the lengthy interview with Jack, which was great and just interesting as hell (what a steamroller of a dude), and then today got pointed to this remembrance by Chris Forsyth, which is also a good read:

http://soundamerican.org/jack-rose-is-real

Never heard of Sound American before, but this is apparently the "Philadelphia" issue and has bunch of other pieces about Philadelphian musicians.

grandavis, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:05 (thirteen years ago)

One of the vids that Chris Forsyth highlights in the piece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5YVeafbZFI&list=PL2AD22B24FDFCC64E&index=34

grandavis, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

Great article, thanks for posting! Also, FYI, Tombeaux now up on Spotify for the vinyl-challenged

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

got a promo for the forthcoming danny paul grody LP on three lobed - i know i am probably comically over enthusiastic on this thread, but wow it is gorgeous. kind of like a takoma version of eno's music for airports.

tylerw, Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know, seems like solo guitar music is having a moment to me, I have not been dissapointed by much that has come up on this thread. Hoping all these folks just keep topping themselves.

grandavis, Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

yeah agreed, so much good stuff

listening to steve gunn now. like it

i think he maybe plays a nylon string guitar? sounds different to me

unfinest DN (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 May 2013 19:53 (thirteen years ago)

d. charles speer, tom carter and chuck johnson on sunday night at the mercury lounge in NYC. plan to get daydrunk at a bbq then head over.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Saturday, 25 May 2013 00:05 (thirteen years ago)

and shawn d mcmillen too!

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Saturday, 25 May 2013 00:05 (thirteen years ago)

Man have fun, I'm jealous

unfinest DN (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 25 May 2013 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

I am hosting/organizing this 4th of July show with Glenn Jones in Brooklyn, sounds like there are some NYC heads on this thread and this would be of direct interest. Please come and invite friends!

https://www.facebook.com/events/468989089848089/

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Saturday, 25 May 2013 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

i got the first chuck johnson lp in the mail today and picked up the don bikoff reish too. sweet sounds on the speakers tonight.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 26 May 2013 04:52 (thirteen years ago)

It's all about side 2 of the Chuck Johnson LP. So good.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Sunday, 26 May 2013 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

our roommate is out of town for the weekend but yesterday he got a package from thrill jockey in the mail and i am 99% sure it's the glenn jones rekkerd and i want to open it but that would be wrong :(

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Sunday, 26 May 2013 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

but it would feel so right

tylerw, Sunday, 26 May 2013 16:18 (thirteen years ago)

does he not have a cell phone cmon this is important

j., Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

lol i'll just have to hold out til monday night. i can do it.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

Brutally under-attended Chuck Johnson show tonite in NYC.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 27 May 2013 04:39 (thirteen years ago)

Show was great though. So happy to see Chuck live finally.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 27 May 2013 04:48 (thirteen years ago)

i ended up staying at the bbq and not going to the show, though i really wanted to. i've been bad about show attendance. i will def go see Glenn though, unless i'm out of state.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, 27 May 2013 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

Looks like there is now a Mike Gangloff solo record! All fiddle and banjo, but I could listen to this shit all day. Song available in the Dusted review below:

http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/7711

grandavis, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

oh man, that gangloff track sounds amazing. thanks!
bummer that the chuck johnson show didn't attract too much of a crowd. i would go see all of these dudes if they came within 100 miles of me...

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

Digging this Gangloff track- reminds me a bit of a few cuts off that "Roots of Drone" comp on Spotify- some great dirty/weird old folk/blues stuff on there that I think folks on this thread would appreciate

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, along the avant-appalachia line, that recent henry flynt graduation reissue is highly recommended too.

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3J7D3XcCIE

This might be a little OT cos it's so old, but I was listening to this old album at the weekend which is from a couple of guys that were in the Blue Aeroplanes which came out in 1986. One of the first records I know of from the indie side of things where there's such an obvious Fahey influence (did Fahey write the theme or did he borrow it too? I dunno, but it took me a while to work out which Fahey tune it was). Whole album's along those lines and, as with all things Blue Aeroplanes, whether or not you enjoy it will greatly depend on how you like your poetry served. Think it's pretty interesting though.

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

interesting, don't know that thing.
just saw this from light in the attic...
http://blog.lightintheattic.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/1366195302-778578065720-.jpg
Scott Key - This Forest and the Sea
LION116 (LP)
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Out now on Lion Productions, Scott Key’s This Forest and the Sea, an excellent 1976 private press acoustic album, self-recorded at various places in Colorado. From start to finish, this album is filled with beautiful finger style acoustic guitar, plus some atonal bottleneck slide, string scrapes and drones (at times, very Ry Cooder / Paris, Texas about six years before that soundtrack existed). Although almost completely instrumental, what lyrics there are tend towards the dark and the satiric. The obvious points of comparison are John Fahey and Leo Kottke, although Scott Key certainly has his own presence and style, differences in tone and color and attack, which he attributes to his background in rock bands.

Overall, there is a brooding, loner folk/psych feel, most evident on the phenomenal, effects-heavy, almost 11-minute long title track, ‘This Forest and the Sea.’ “I was coming to terms with what it mean to exist… and saw the world in pure black and white—there was no room for grey,” Key said. “I saw an American Culture devoid of any understanding of its place in the universe, how we learn nothing save what we see on television, how our existence is tainted by intellectual laziness, and how our gift of life is defiled by the taking of it.” This deluxe 180-gram vinyl LP edition of This Forest and the Sea comes with an insert which sports engaging, funny, and insightful notes by Key, photos, plus the text to poem that inspired the title track; as a nod to the forest. A very rare album that seems to have flown under almost everyone’s radar—although thankfully not Doug McGowan’s (Yoga Records), who sent this our way. One record collector said to us, and we now say to you: “Have a listen because this rates up there with classics by Bob Desper, Perry Leopold, Robbie Basho, and Phil Yost, with dark moods similar to John Fahey and Nick Drake.”

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

new cian nugent single is pretty awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN0-c__mCtY&feature=player_embedded

tylerw, Monday, 3 June 2013 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

forest & the sea is a good record... weird that is' being reissued cuz i never thought it was on an insanely high level; a few of the songs are kinda light and jokey iirc. havent listened to it in ages..

wanna get that gangloff tho!!!!

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, 3 June 2013 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

pretty cool set from william tyler / tim barnes here: http://www.theatreintangible.com/e103-tim-barnes-and-william-tyler-artist-showcase-2013-05-30/

tylerw, Monday, 3 June 2013 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

That William Tyler/Tim Barnes set is good. Nice to hear W.Tyler stretch out a litte (I've never seen him play solo or improv live, just in the Silver Jews and Lambchop).

Some nice string-bending on that C. Nugent song. The melody definitely hits a "China Cat Sunflower"/Dead mode pretty heavily.

grandavis, Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

Also wanna say that the Aquarium Drunkard coverage, amongst other things (like the first tune from it), has me really excited for that Steve Gunn record.

Good review by Tyler!
http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/06/06/steve-gunn-time-off/

Cool interview with J.J. Toth.
http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/06/05/wooden-wand-interviews-steve-gunn/

grandavis, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

good job tyler!

unfinest DN (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 June 2013 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, i need to get that gunn record. i think our roommate just got it in the mail. or at least he got SOMETHING from paradise of bachelors...

steve is a super nice guy.

black twig pickers playing here next week, but it's the same night as a heavy free jazz gig so i am totally torn.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 7 June 2013 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

haha, thanks... the interview is the really interesting one.
i even started a wildly popular steve gunn thread this week: Steve Gunn
new album is great, i think everyone will like it. like, even my mom.

tylerw, Friday, 7 June 2013 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

perhaps relevant to this thread from that interview

For instance, it’s hard to find a review of any of your records that doesn’t mention John Fahey. Similarly, I always laugh when I read a review of a Rick Bishop or a Six Organs record, and the writer can’t seem to come up with a single other guitar player to compare these guys to. Is this frustrating for you? And to what do you attribute this sudden renewed interest in guitar soli, or what-have-you?

Steve Gunn: I certainly think that Jack Rose set the bar for it. Over the years, he dealt with the whole Fahey comparison, but he managed to step out of that shadow and prove himself as his own being, and I think he started the renewed interest in that world. I certainly listened and studied a lot of that stuff, and Jack was actually a big inspiration for me to go down that road. But now it is a bit frustrating to still see that comparison, but people need something to grab onto when they write about music. I do find it a bit lazy when you can tell when you’re reading a review that the writer is just looking at other reviews and doing the Google thing, not listening to the music and interpreting it for themselves. I don’t know if that answers your question.

JJT: Well, I think some writers just lack some very fundamental understanding of the music. I saw a review of one of the great Imaginational Anthem compilations on Tompkins Square and they were going on and on about the shadow of Fahey – I mean, the first volume featured a track by Bern Nix, fer chrissakes. When I hear guys like you and William (Tyler), I hear as much Sandy Bull, Richard Thompson, and Jerry Garcia as I do anything from the so-called Takoma school.

Steve Gunn: Yeah, Fahey is just the easiest go-to reference for the whole fingerpicking thing. Jack set the bar and I was like, “There’s no way I’m going to step in and try to do what he does,” but at the same time, I was so inspired by him, I just wanted to turn it into my own thing. I’m hoping that when people hear this new record, people won’t be making those comparisons. I don’t really want to be lumped into that school.

tylerw, Friday, 7 June 2013 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

he's got a point -- fahey definitely wouldn't be the reference point i'd use for this latest record (or a lot of his stuff, really). but i dunno, as this thread proves, the whole area is generally a wide range of sounds and approaches.

tylerw, Friday, 7 June 2013 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

I can't imagine that anyone wants the Fahey comparison at this point, nor Jack Rose, though it is flattering if you touch those heights I guess. Still, I think the Dead nod is a good (and spot on) one, and the addition of singing and drums/bass definitely reframes any real Fahey-isms in a different light.

grandavis, Friday, 7 June 2013 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

chuck johnson wfmu session from May is up on the free music archive: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Chuck_Johnson/Live_at_WFMU_on_Irene_Trudels_Show_-_May_27_2013/

tylerw, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

I feel those complaints in that it's lazy writing but if my playing gets good enough where ppl are inaccurately comparing me to fahey I'd consider that a good problem to have

unfinest DN (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 8 June 2013 01:04 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMQuuZNvwLU

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ clarence & roland white, btw. 1973.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:39 (thirteen years ago)


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