Both versions are approximately equally fabulous/ridiculous. XXP
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 17 May 2013 00:58 (eleven years ago) link
I think the implication in "Tunic" is that she looks in the mirror and still sees herself as being too fat despite actually wasting away.
― Kent Burt, Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:01 PM (27 seconds ago)
otm
i think it's too literal to take "i feel like i'm disappearing" only as a description of karen's physical state, or even her sense of it. i mean, it is that, but it also suggests a loss of selfhood, the comingled desire for and fear of non-existence. outside, she sees a negatively distorted image of her own body, and inside, she's fleeing an equally distorted sense of self-worth. it's in part a critique of stardom, of "vanishing into a role" (or a tunic). in this context, the cliche acquires a nasty double edge.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 17 May 2013 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
I loaned a bunch of SY albums to a roommate once (Graham Coxon had name-checked them or something, and he was curious) and Tunic was the only song he liked. Don't know what that means.
― the so-called socialista (dowd), Friday, 17 May 2013 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.melson.nl/ILM/sypoll/021.jpg21. The SprawlDaydream Nation, 1988(250 points, 14 votes)
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 06:02 (eleven years ago) link
I can't decide if this or 'JC' has my favorite Kim vocals. Still, gorgeous song, even though I had it only at #29.
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 07:45 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.melson.nl/ILM/sypoll/020.jpg20. Eric's TripDaydream Nation, 1988(254 points, 13 votes)
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 08:42 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.melson.nl/ILM/sypoll/019.jpg19. Tom ViolenceEvol, 1986(257 points, 18 votes)
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 10:22 (eleven years ago) link
Ah, guess "Hey Joni" didn't beat "Eric's Trip", then, and I'd hoped "The Sprawl" would have done a little better - as someone who's never been anywhere near NYC, it's p.evocative.
I think my experience w/"Silver Rocket" was similar to balls'.
― etc, Friday, 17 May 2013 10:26 (eleven years ago) link
Tom Violence was a hard cut to make.
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 17 May 2013 10:27 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.melson.nl/ILM/sypoll/018.jpg18. Pacific Coast HighwaySister, 1987(259 points, 17 votes)
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 10:43 (eleven years ago) link
awww man, i really hoped "Eric's Trip" and "PCH" would be top 10
― trick paddy pollars (some dude), Friday, 17 May 2013 10:44 (eleven years ago) link
I agree re: 'Eric's Trip', but I don't really understand the love for 'PCH'. For me it's always been the link between two awesome halves of Sister, more an interlude than a true song.
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 10:49 (eleven years ago) link
ohhh man, some day you're gonna realize how amazing "PCH" is. listen to some live versions maybe.
― trick paddy pollars (some dude), Friday, 17 May 2013 10:51 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of see what you mean. Love the drums on the first part! The trumpet wasn't such a great idea though...
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 11:04 (eleven years ago) link
"Karen Revisited" was my #1, the song where I first "got" SY, after having had e.g. Daydream Nation since the early 90s. yeah, it's the "ask me if I care" part, but not just Lee's voice; it's that the squall never peaks; there's some more fills on the drums, but the guitar tones stay level, which makes it more eerie. maybe the guitars get more dense there? I'm not sure, but they don't peak in any obvious ways & that accentuates the moment.
― Euler, Friday, 17 May 2013 11:08 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.melson.nl/ILM/sypoll/017.jpg17. Star PowerEvol, 1986(267 points, 14 votes, 1 #1)
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 11:16 (eleven years ago) link
haha yeah. didn't know they ever played it as a set opener, wow! the Hold That Tiger version is classic though. xp
― trick paddy pollars (some dude), Friday, 17 May 2013 11:16 (eleven years ago) link
It's only really been the lead-up to the voting period where I've had a proper listen to most of Sister/Evol; "Pacific Coast Highway" seemed to be a pretty fantastic welding together of, uh, "intense" SY & blissed-out SY. Kinda reminds me of "Poptones"! "Star Power"'s quite charming - they sure had a lot of songs vaguely dealing with celebrity, huh.
― etc, Friday, 17 May 2013 11:24 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.melson.nl/ILM/sypoll/016.jpg16. Total TrashDaydream Nation, 1988(297 points, 14 votes, 1 #1)
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 11:39 (eleven years ago) link
Let me be the first one to scream 'TOO HIGH!'
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 11:40 (eleven years ago) link
This song blew my college-aged mind.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 11:40 (eleven years ago) link
The guitars and rhythm get all the credit. Let's pause to listen to Moore for a second: he finds the right vocal tone; it's like he's mimicking Kim's wryness and detachment.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 11:41 (eleven years ago) link
i'm surprised that "total trash" came in so high, but happily. i slighted it because i've played and dearly loved it WAY too much over the years. as a result, some of the flavor seems to have has worn off, but i should have at least made space for it on my ballot. if i'd known it was this well-loved, i surely would have.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 17 May 2013 11:49 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i already complained about this song enough. but beating "Eric's Trip" is ridiculous tbh.
― trick paddy pollars (some dude), Friday, 17 May 2013 11:49 (eleven years ago) link
By the way, the jump in points from 'Star Power' to 'Total Trash' was the biggest one yet. Some more big jumps coming up soon.
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 11:55 (eleven years ago) link
Just for balance, Total Trash was the only song I particularly liked off of DN for a very long time. I like the way the guitars slowly detune the main riff as the song heads off into noise territory...
― dlp9001, Friday, 17 May 2013 11:55 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, but that annoying bassline! And then it COMES BACK when the song should have been finished!
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.melson.nl/ILM/sypoll/015.jpg15. Wish FulfillmentDirty, 1992(297 points, 15 votes, 1 #1)
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 12:04 (eleven years ago) link
My #2!
The Butch Vig production really lets you soak in the atmospheric churn.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:07 (eleven years ago) link
i was starting to wonder if that would show up, it always seemed popular but i wasn't sure.
― trick paddy pollars (some dude), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:12 (eleven years ago) link
i guess i should stop waiting for "Purr" :(
TOO LOW! My #1, was kinda hoping against hope it'd make the top 10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUMPKmLiTcY
― etc, Friday, 17 May 2013 12:23 (eleven years ago) link
Sadly "Little Jammy Thing" or the demo aren't on YouTube.
― etc, Friday, 17 May 2013 12:24 (eleven years ago) link
xp Wow, that's beautiful!
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 12:28 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.melson.nl/ILM/sypoll/014.jpg14. Rain on TinMurray Street, 2002(313 points, 18 votes, 1 #1)
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 12:39 (eleven years ago) link
way way way too fucking high
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
it's a good song and all, but sheez
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:50 (eleven years ago) link
― ArchCarrier, Friday, May 17, 2013 4:57 AM (50 minutes ago)
nuh uh, the exhausted comeback is one of the best things abt the song
way way way too fucking highYeah, I don't understand it either. I even checked my spreadsheet to see if I hadn't made a mistake.
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 12:52 (eleven years ago) link
"rain on tin" = a decent late period sy tune, w/ a mid-song, half-power reminder of what they used to do on the reg without batting an eye
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
The point though is that the top twenty can boast unexpected entries -- and that's what polls are for, no?
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
they played "Rain On Tin" more times than any other song written since 1994, and with good reason, it smokes live.
― trick paddy pollars (some dude), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't even LIKE the song when i first bought the album, but the first time seeing it live changed that. and honestly, it would suck if this poll had no 21st century songs in the top 20, and if there was only gonna be one, "Rain On Tin" is a great pick.
― trick paddy pollars (some dude), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.melson.nl/ILM/sypoll/013.jpg13. Brave Men Run (in My Family)Bad Moon Rising, 1985(329 points, 16 votes)
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 May 2013 13:00 (eleven years ago) link
dang, hoped that would be top 10
― trick paddy pollars (some dude), Friday, 17 May 2013 13:01 (eleven years ago) link
Seven days and seven nightsI dreamt a sailor's dream at seaSeven days and seven nightsI dreamt a sailor's dream of meSeven days and seven nightsThe world was made and lost againSeven days and seven nightsBrave men runIn my familyBrave men runInto the setting sunBrave men runInto captivityBrave men runIn my family Brave men runAway from me
― etc, Friday, 17 May 2013 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really have anything against "rain on tin". i'd have preferred seeing other late SY songs in the top 20, but mostly i just like venting.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 17 May 2013 13:18 (eleven years ago) link
etc otm
whoa, looking through gerhard richter's wikipedia page, this section:
Sonic Youth used a painting of his for the cover art for their album Daydream Nation in 1988. He was a fan of the band and did not charge for the use of his image.[citation needed] The original, over 7 metres (23 ft) square, is now showcased in Sonic Youth's studio in NYC.
!!!
― your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 17 May 2013 13:28 (eleven years ago) link