Daft Punk's Random Access Memories

or at least *as* sincere

right, but those records sound like mainstream pop music ca. 2013, as opposed to using sounds that are often employed with some degree of irony or pastiche (jazz fusion drums, disco guitar, broadway vibes? i dunno, i haven't listened to this record).

right but he seems to be saying sincerity is bucking convention somehow.

putting mass pop to one side, i can't think of any "ironic" album that's sold more than like 2000 copies in the last 5 years

― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), donderdag 16 mei 2013 0:27 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The second and third sentence have no significant baring on the first sentence, and I never implied that. Was just rambling freely.

xp except maybe rubies, which is the exception that proved the rule in terms of the negligible impact it had on The Sound of Now

is "accidental racist" more or less sincere than this album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UtQe0JOCnM

haa from Nile interview:

"It all depends on the show, but songs that make every single show are Good Times, Le Freak, We Are Family, He's The Greatest Dancer... but lately we've put in Bowie's Let's Dance and Madonna's Like A Virgin. Last year we did a song I wrote for Carly Simon called Why for the first time since I did it in the studio.

I saw Chic in March last year (same show INXS dudes went to) and he did a booksigning afterwards. He'd said a lot of "oh my, we are definitely coming back here" onstage, and so at the signing I said "great great show, really hope you do come back etc etc... and hey, if you do, the one thing that could make it better is if you play Why."

What I meant was: Here is a band, with a sprawling, anticipation-inducing pr campagne, and a huge backstory of coolness, touches of irony, setting the trend for quite some time, delivering a new album. And it turns out those winks of irony or "cool" are not on here: it is a sincere, earnest album. Which seems to bother quite a lot of people, as it is received with a lot of scorn ("elevator music", "miss homework era dp" etc), almost as if people dread Daft Punk made an earnest album and not putting in irony or cynicism.

Sincerity is a horrible concept and fucking hard one to pull off but listen to Paul Williams vocal...he really means it (maaan) and I think it's the reason people are starting to fall in love with that track....

xp ok i think that's fair(ish), but the people the earnestness or sincerity or guilelessness or whatevs bothers are not on this thread, and i think even the people on this thread who don't like the album think that's a dumb line of attack.

the effort to find a 'new sincerity' seems misguided to me, like a belief that culture is like physics, for every reaction there must be an equal and opposite reaction. yes post-modernism and irony was a tool used within some circles but that doesn't mean 'sincerity' ever went away or even lessened as an artistic force.

Caek, that is probably true, got those vibes mostly from ppl around me, or twitter or whatever

everybody needs to *ahem* acquire *ahem* the FLAC right now btw

I should have never, ever brought 'new sincerity' into this. Only picked it up from someone. For I do not see it as a belief etc, as Dayo points out

i kind of get it though, DP made an album where they were very open about wearing their influences on their sleeve, it's almost a perfect imitation, and it doesn't sound like what they've done before. but that doesn't mean that HAA or Discovery were done from an ironic standpoint.

my updated view of this album: favourite album of the year up to and including track 9. fragments of time and contact are solid. panda bear is awful to listen to but a fun earworm after the fact. motherboard is rubbish.

xps yeah I don't think this is any different to Discovery in terms of what you're talking about...DP aren't being more since/less ironic or whatever here than on that

I think the sincerity of what they say is so pronounced because their statements are so obviously wrong and stupid. Like, they have Moroder talking about 'the sound of the future' when there isn't a single new idea on the record. They sing about losing yourself in dance in a song which no one would ever lose themselves dancing to.

i have already lost myself dancing to that song so you are wrong

Definitely agree with you Dayo, well put. I did not mean to imply the previous records were done from an ironic standpoint. But the music did implicate it at times.

With this one, they turned everything upside down, went the whole nine yards in being open: showing their influences, pressing on the fact that this would be a "different" Daft Punk than before. I admire that. I think most poignant is the Rodgers quote up here somewhere showing how shocked they were that the album had leaked: it didn't seem they were concerned about breaking "the spell" of the pr as much as being gutted that they lost control at the very conceiving end of this album, of bringing it to the world, and being concerned about the reactions. And Rodgers had to console them and tell them: "Look maaahhn, it's about the music, they either like it or not, no big deal."

i have already lost myself dancing to that song so you are wrong

pictures plz

anyway i don't know how any of the moves that DP pulled on this record are supposed to be weird or surprising after kanye already sampled the dan like three years ago. peace http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x259/alexandramarko/fun/smiley_peace.gif

forget kanye what about de la soul

now all I can see is Nile Rodgers consoling French retro robots.

and who better?

there ain't enough Rodgers riffage to mitigate the awfulness of Pharrell's falsetto.

"champion" was almost 6 years ago!!

man how time flies

finally listening to the whole thing today.

why does everyone (around the internet at least) hate Touch so much? you wouldn't play it at a dance party or anything (ok i guess i just answered my own question) but it's not bad at all!

i want my 16 minute version of Touch

and keep wanting to mix 'loose yourself to dance' into cassius' 'au reve'

anyway if you want to look for examples of the new sincerity look no farther than new ilx poster treeship.

*runs hand through hair* damn

lol

Treeship is ILX's Random Access Memories

do they ever say why it takes them so long to make records? dance music peoples are usually like sci-fi writers, they can't crank it out fast enough.

pharrells crap at this

agreed. you wanna go out for a drink, man

get a room

COME ONE COME ON COME ON COME ONE COME ON COME ON COME ONE COME ON COME ON COME ONE COME ON COME ON COME ONE COME ON COME ON COME ONE COME ON COME ON

sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat

10/10 in the NME. It joins Is This It, Let England Shake and that Eve album as one of the few albums to get a perfect score, very surprised.

sweat sweat sweat

do they ever say why it takes them so long to make records? dance music peoples are usually like sci-fi writers, they can't crank it out fast enough.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 23:09 (7 minutes ago) Permalink

this isn't true at all! dance music people release, like, a single every two years

Lemme guess - the NME review was all about them "saving" dance music?

'Touch' really is the works. Blasting sonic rainbows through my speakers. Fuiud.

Lemme guess - the NME review was all about them "saving" dance music?

― scintilla (seandalai)

Somebody actually did a scan of the review.

http://i.imgur.com/0c0D1wv.jpg

Hi all. I'm trying to avoid any dp hype till proper release, so that's why I haven't been ITT. Everyone having fun in here I trust?

"life-affirming salute to the power of imagination"
"instant nightclub anthem"
"startling centrepiece"
"pure musical adrenalin"

did a work experience student write this?

I guess it depends on how big you are. lots of prolific dance people out there. but daft punk more in the rock/pop mold of making people wait for stuff. they are more classic rock dance anyway. like the crossover college rock dance stuff of the 90's. I always wanted to like THAT stuff more than I did. being a rock fan. I enjoyed the videos anyway. same with those first daft punk videos. the event appeal is definitely real. crossover cool factor is a hard thing to manufacture.

"instant crush, an instant nightclub anthem"?!