xp ouch
― Neil S, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:43 (eleven years ago) link
I did wince as I typed that one out, sorry
― dschinghis kraan (NickB), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:45 (eleven years ago) link
LOL
― how's life, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:47 (eleven years ago) link
Pink Floyd are short,anyway
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:47 (eleven years ago) link
Short of what?
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:49 (eleven years ago) link
okay, here's an attempt at a more helpful answer HL: at a stretch, This Nation's Saving Grace has elements of the "psychedelia gone wrong" that Barrett-era Floyd dealt in. It's a pretty big leap though, and I'm sure people will disagree vehemently (always the way with anything Fall-related).
― Neil S, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:51 (eleven years ago) link
They are also said to be influenced by the Beatles. What is the Fall's entry into Beatlesque pop?
― how's life, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
their amazing cover of "a A Day in the Life" probably.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
Bollocks to both of those (xp)
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
Upon first listen, the best tracks were on the Record Store Day single. The rest of the album is studio noodling.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
I would recommend Grotesque to a newbie. The music is more straight-ahead punk/rockabilly, and the lyrical content is clear, and - blob 59 excepted - relatively murk-free. Also, if the words don't have you hooked, you'll never get the fall.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
I have had luck with introducing people to the Fall through Grotesque.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
That's a good question... what are the best Fall starter-albums for new listeners?
Grotesque makes sense... I'd probably add TNSG, Frenz, Infotainment as being "easy-ish" to start with.Not their best stuff necessarily, but a relatively painless entry for people? 50,000 Fall Fans would probably work well too. Who knows!
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
50,000 Fall Fans is a well-curated comp, containing many titles I had read about in various places. Definitely sufficient for me to ascertain that, aside from a few random cuts, they're never going to be my thing.
― New Authentic Everybootsy Collins (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
My first Fall album was 'Seminal Live.' Was in the $3.99 cassette bin at the campus store freshman year o college.
Kinda amazing I persisted.
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
50,000 Fall Fans is definitely my go-to - it only has like 1-2 selections from each album, so it's not like you're 'ruining' much by listening to that first.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
Not that keen on The Fall in general but I listened to The Unutterable this morning following amateurist mentioning it above and it was great. Would listen again.
This afternoon I tried Grotesque, also mentioned above, and lasted about 90 seconds. Can't be bothered with that stuff.
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I would recommend The Unutterable as the starter-kit to pretty much anyone
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
Either that or Hex
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
Definitely not "Hex" I'd say
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
Esp. the 2nd side
Though I suppose if you can sit through "And This Day" you'll be able to cope with anything else MES might throw at you
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
Hex is probably their most interesting album (well, apart from Levitate) - it's iconic, vivid, catchy, quite obviously something unusual. Surely the listener would prefer this to the (imo) slightly more humdrum charms of The Infotainment Scan or whatever else was suggested? Don't conflate enjoyability with simplicity
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
Or even memorability with simplicity
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
Infotainment Scan is not a humdrum album even in comparison to Hex.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
I found Info kinda straightforwardish and energetic. Hex, though great, would seem a lil obtuse for a newbie, I'd think.
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
This Nation's Saving Grace is my favourite, therefore that's the best one for everyone else to start with.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
Dont know about albums but Peel Sessions Versipn of Glam Racket wd prob be one of the mist user friendky points of origin for newbies.
Also re Floyd influence in the Fall: three words, all beginning w the letter D...
― Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
Man am I glad I hadnt bothered to type those three words out...
― Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
umm... dreams, dragons and _____ ?
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
dragos
― Mark G, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
Dream's is one
― smartphones - the government's secret weapon against ILX (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 16 May 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
Drugs, obv.
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2013 09:04 (eleven years ago) link
Dave Gilmour with your granny on bongos
― dschinghis kraan (NickB), Thursday, 16 May 2013 09:06 (eleven years ago) link
like and this day. like the new album.
― Fizzles, Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
Fizzles!
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
i got in my car this AM and turned on the radio and -- BAM -- "eat yrself fitter" came screaming out of the speakers
such a great band
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 16 May 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
what radio station is playing "eat yrself fitter"?
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Thursday, 16 May 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
Radio 3, prob.
― Mark G, Thursday, 16 May 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link
i'm in the USA. college radio.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 17 May 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
No-one will ever believe this but it's true, I just witness MES slow dancing with whats'erface for about 2 minutes tonight.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 17 May 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
Elena?
― Mark G, Friday, 17 May 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah. He was probably more sober than I was. I'm almost inclined to believe Mr Doran is exaggerating the state he's in. He was drinking a bottle of Fosters Gold. Dunno about anyone else, but if I was a chronic alchoholic I wouldn't be seen dead drinking a bottle of Fosters Gold, there's not enough booze in it.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 17 May 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link
First one I heard that I enjoyed was "Witch Trials"; "Frenz" and "This Nation" didn't do much for me at first.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 17 May 2013 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
the immediate not liking of grotesque saddens me. it starts with "pay your rates"!
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 17 May 2013 04:00 (eleven years ago) link
pay your own rates!
AllMusic opined that the band "really started hitting its stride" with this album.[2]
!
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Friday, 17 May 2013 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
Grotesque is the one that turned me into a ravening Fall follower.
― Millsner, Friday, 17 May 2013 04:04 (eleven years ago) link
fuck all this "what's the easiest fall album to get into", start 'em on perverted by language, weed out the weaklings
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 17 May 2013 04:47 (eleven years ago) link