Get Lucky full-length feels like a 12".
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:21 (thirteen years ago)
daft punk have been nothing if not PR geniuses in recent years.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:21 (thirteen years ago)
I refuse to get drawn into this beardo debate and will instead provide random observations about the songs on my commute home.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:22 (thirteen years ago)
i feel like a lot of these songs have much more discernable "movements" than all but a few previous DP tracks
like "oh, here's where this part ends and this part ends" (thinking in partic. of touch and motherboard)
in a way it's kind of bothersome if you were expecting more of a groove records
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:24 (thirteen years ago)
there's a danger in treating the "clusters of association" or "lines of rehabilitation" as purely happenstance - of course they can be and are to an extent but the role of PR in then working those angles and positions and creating those clusters is rarely discussed
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:25 (thirteen years ago)
i don't think anyone is discounting PR
but there's often a way in which record label PR often follows from an initial spark of renewed enthusiasm
even at a very niche level, drag city will reissue some private-press LP -after- it's already been hyped/downloaded on some muso LP blog
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:26 (thirteen years ago)
my digging into any sort of genre that's new to me usually begins not from press that i read or reissue press notices or the 'hipster okay nod' (i tend to tune those out for whatever reason) but when i hear something i really love and find out it's, idk, bob james or michel legrand or gabor szabo or june tabor or the roches or billie jo spears or gene page. from there i read up on where to go next.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:28 (thirteen years ago)
She is the best-selling female artist on the Recording Industry Association of America's (RIAA) Top Selling Album Artists list, the only female recording artist in the top ten, and the only artist outside of the rock and roll genre
this is somewhat accurate btw (there is one other non-rock artist in top ten though)
Artist Certified Units in MillionsBEATLES, THE 177PRESLEY, ELVIS 134.5BROOKS, GARTH 128LED ZEPPELIN 111.5EAGLES 100JOEL, BILLY 81.5PINK FLOYD 74.5JOHN, ELTON 72STREISAND, BARBRA 71.5AC/DC 71.5
next top selling female artists are madonna and mariah neck and neck at 16 and 17. tying this back in to the thread (sorta) here's streisand doing the first recording of a fagen/becker song, before they formed steely dan, fagen plays on it also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6eonE_qF08
― balls, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:28 (thirteen years ago)
yeah the Becker/Fagen stuff is interesting.
I just went to the link from her wiki article and the wiki page has Shania Twain listed (way) ahead of her with Come On Over. but maybe that is just individual album sales, not aggregate...? I dunno
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:31 (thirteen years ago)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_in_the_United_States
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:32 (thirteen years ago)
like balls how is MJ not in your list there, that just seems crazy
MJ didn't release a lot of albums!
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:35 (thirteen years ago)
His only ridiculous seller in the States is Thriller.
it's from the riaa site. also top selling artists /= top selling albums. mj's 11 fwiw.
― balls, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:35 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinum.php?content_selector=top-selling-artists
after Thriller his sales level off at perfectly normal superstar quantities until the late nineties
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:36 (thirteen years ago)
i think there is something kind of inexplicable about these things at a base level tho - like why every chic dirtbag chick is dressing like courtney love ca. 1995 or how 'goodtime charlie's got the blues' became something you here out a lot, i mean i sometimes things will be tied to stuff going on the larger culture (where pr def plays a role in shaping the conversation) but often it seems to happen the other way around, objects in space or w/e, those lawerence weiner taglines stuttering
i also think its a mistake to use 'cool' and 'popular' interchangeably i guess and i was trying to understand amateurist on the former rather than the latter so
― Lamp, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:37 (thirteen years ago)
I agree that PR is basically reactive w/r/t broader trends - they're more likely to play a key role on an individual artist/album/song level. IMO basically the biggest compliment you can pay PR (in terms of its discursive framing rather than just the brute strategy of e.g. iTunes streams) is that it has correctly judged the (existing) mood.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:42 (thirteen years ago)
starting to think maybe one problem w/ the album isn't too many collabs but too few - if you're gonna make a quincy album make a fucking quincy album. get siedah garrett on that shit. older, wetter, slower, longer, our work is never over.
― balls, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:43 (thirteen years ago)
hell Tevin Campbell isn't doing much and El Debarge can use the gig
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 23:48 (thirteen years ago)
The album version of "Get Lucky" feels a lot moodier to me. The single remix has such a triumphant arc; the extended version is more like being stuck in some sort of Groundhog Day of being up all night to get lucky every night, until you become a sad robot.
― ḉrut (crüt), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:02 (thirteen years ago)
couldn't get access to happy robots borad
― gr8080, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:05 (thirteen years ago)
Daft Punk guys are pretty much my age, which makes me think they're trolling all the young fans who had dads playing Return to Forever at home and moms listening to smooth jazz funk while driving carpools to soccer games.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:34 PM Bookmark
Ha no, I love all that shit. But as others have said it's pretty rehabilitated and most Daft Punk fans probably didn't not have all the 70s fusion records on the family turntable that we did. I totally understand why some people hate this album but it's completely in my wheelhouse.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:12 PM Bookmark
errr, that was supposed to say it's never really been rehabilitated
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:34 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/SoYVnsF.png
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:35 (thirteen years ago)
xxxpost: Yeah, the single version of Get Lucky feels more tight. Same thing with Lose Yourself to Dance, I love how it sounds but it could really use an edit. Thankfully it's been confirmed as the second single so we're going to get an edit of that one too.
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:37 (thirteen years ago)
Still not lucky.
http://i.imgur.com/R66SxkP.jpg
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:40 (thirteen years ago)
So not gonna happen
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:47 (thirteen years ago)
Is that Thomas Mars second from the left?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:48 (thirteen years ago)
Looks like him!
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 01:08 (thirteen years ago)
pretty sure that's Busy P
― krandles, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 01:09 (thirteen years ago)
I think you're right. Shame.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 01:35 (thirteen years ago)
https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/129730596/2630509441_944a6ee3e2_m.jpg
@Umaihr "The meaning of life? Read books. Fall in love. Read all books. Listen to Daft Punk."
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 01:44 (thirteen years ago)
Oh so hey, BTW, we all know where Daft Punk got their name from but I finally confirmed who actually wrote it:
http://nedraggett.tumblr.com/post/50466658963/and-why-you-ask-am-i-showing-you-this-photo-of-a
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 02:16 (thirteen years ago)
Touch has somehow become one of my favorite tracks on this.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 02:25 (thirteen years ago)
xxxpost: It's Busy P.
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 02:25 (thirteen years ago)
kind of disorienting seeing pharrell performing on live tv with robin thicke and t.i. tonight
― gr8080, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 02:52 (thirteen years ago)
Another random observation:
I love how some writers are describing RAM as "Daft Punk's first album without synthesizers."
And they say hard journalism is dead...
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 02:53 (thirteen years ago)
daft punk's first album without non-transparent synthesizers
― gr8080, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 02:56 (thirteen years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:53 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
?!?!
reminds me of when dave marsh reviewed the first steely dan album and said of "do it again," (I paraphrase) "while the hired-gun singer isn't that great, it's remarkable how much he seems to imitate donald fagen's phrasing here."
i sometimes wonder if some music critics even have ears.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:00 (thirteen years ago)
daft punk's first brass band album
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:06 (thirteen years ago)
Daft Punk: Live at the Village Vanguard
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:07 (thirteen years ago)
I've actually seen it described as their first album with "no electronics except for a modular synthesizer and some vintage vocoders,"
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:09 (thirteen years ago)
On other news, "Fragments of Time" isn't totally rocking my world yet. The microsampling is softer and smoother than before. The guitar parts are nice. But Todd's vocal feels a little safe to me -- very straight and lacking a melody that really pulls it across the finish line. Willing to give it a few more listens.
The irony is "Doin' It Right" is this album's "Face to Face," not "Fragments" -- penultimate track, the Daft Punk-ization of a guest's well-worn style. Whatever you think of PB's part, the vocoder bit has a sweetness to it I find irresistible.
"Motherboard" is all kinds of awesome.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:10 (thirteen years ago)
did casablancas co-author the song he sings?
b/c it's hard to know if the melody line and the guitar are "homage to the strokes" or "another song written by the guy who co-writes the strokes' songs"
also, it's odd that they hired JC for his vocal stylings (what I figured was the "grain" of his voice) and then obscured them via vocoder -- although a bit of his vocal personality comes through.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:21 (thirteen years ago)
i know i said some open-mind things yesterday but i am not enjoying this album
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:23 (thirteen years ago)
Traitor
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:24 (thirteen years ago)
So... I loved Fragments of Time and I'm not well versed on Steely Dan but I've seen some of you throwing comparisons itt. Please recommend me some songs by them.
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:25 (thirteen years ago)
All of them. Listen to all of them.
― gr8080, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:28 (thirteen years ago)
xp to amateurist, idk if casablancas co-wrote that song, but it does sound very strokesy and definitely seems, to me, to be almost as distinctively casablancas as doin' it right is distinctively panda bear.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:28 (thirteen years ago)
No! There's too much. Pick three songs for starters. Please?
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:31 (thirteen years ago)