Anyway I just think of "Touch" as one of Williams' Muppet ballads to a degree and that's Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem on that one breakdown. (All meant as high praise obv.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:04 (thirteen years ago)
until 'get lucky' daft punk could hardly be called 70s jazz funk and disco!
― balls, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:05 (thirteen years ago)
lol at dan using paul williams winning an oscar as proof of his canonization, someone let carl wilson know there was no need to write let's talk about love as 'my heart will go on' won the oscar so obv everyone's on board w/ celine dion.
― balls, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:08 (thirteen years ago)
it took ILE for me to realize that other people besides Pauline Kael adore Phantom of the Paradise.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:09 (thirteen years ago)
wtf a ginormous number of people are on board with Celine Dion
― AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:12 (thirteen years ago)
always amused that one of the worst 3-6 tracks is the one that made them IMMORRRRRTTALLLLLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ARG9BXUZSc
― UTW, USA, ILX LIFER (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:13 (thirteen years ago)
that ship is called the Titanic
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:13 (thirteen years ago)
inigo montoya to thread w/r/t Dan's use of "canon"
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:15 (thirteen years ago)
'Touch' is the one track I wanna keep going back to...Paul Williams vocal is one of the most sincere I've heard in ages...forgot what a great vocalist he is...seriously can't believe anybody could hate on this album...think of it as Phoenix's lost third album produced by DP...
― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:15 (thirteen years ago)
oh man that's in silver lake right?
― the late great, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:23 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
los feliz. it's a nice enough spot that you want to visit, but it's also a bit obnoxious. like this daft punk album, come to think of it. ;)
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:16 (thirteen years ago)
cliff's edge is in silverlake tho
― gr8080, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:17 (thirteen years ago)
until "Get Lucky" Daft Punk can hardly be called high profile or mainstream in the States.
^^^
almost uniformly ignored outside of tech nerd/music nerd circles afaict
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:18 (thirteen years ago)
in their defense "One More Time" has achieved the kind of anonymous bar mitzvah/wedding dance fame attained by "Celebration."
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:19 (thirteen years ago)
stuff doesn't have to be massively popular or completely unknown, there is a middle ground
― iatee, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:20 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C77Kah07y7M
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:20 (thirteen years ago)
the album's been out for a whole day, totally time to get the "daft punk: are they popular?" debate going again
― gr8080, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:21 (thirteen years ago)
why not? I'm home from work, up all night to get some
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:22 (thirteen years ago)
dan you understand 'canonized' and 'popular' don't mean the same thing right? for example 'nothing's gonna stop us now' by starship was a #1 hit in the us and the uk and was even nominated for a grammy but, imo at least, is pretty far from canonized.
― balls, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:29 (thirteen years ago)
just you wait until DF hire Marty Balin for the next album
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:31 (thirteen years ago)
can't wait for vocoderized 'i had a taste of the real world when i went down on you girl'
― balls, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:33 (thirteen years ago)
You understand that there are multiple sources for a "canon" and that one of them is "stodgy industry types who hand out awards like Oscars and Grammys" and that pretty much everything about this album except for the end of "Contact" is directly in that demographic's wheelhouse, right?
Basically if this doesn't win Best Dance Recording or Best Dance Album, I will be shocked.
― AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:35 (thirteen years ago)
think i'm gonna listen to red octopus and the first paul williams album the rest of the afternoon, maybe throw streisand's lazy afternoon (her rupert holmes album btw) into the mix see what happens
― balls, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:36 (thirteen years ago)
not that anyone cares about grammies but if kish kash and alive 2007 already won I would imagine this has a good chance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Best_Dance/Electronica_Album
― iatee, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:38 (thirteen years ago)
holy christ am i supposed to investigate paul williams solo albums now?
will it never stop?
xxxpost
that jazzy version of get lucky is terrible but i like the idea in theory... kind of want herbie hancock to do a covers album or something
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:39 (thirteen years ago)
reminds me that I lolled at this
Finally hearing it for the first time...holy shit @ 'Give Life Back to Music' - perfection.― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:57 AM (11 hours ago)
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:57 AM (11 hours ago)
which was posted around fourteen hours after the thing was first unveiled
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:40 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKUaZgcZp-0
― gr8080, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:41 (thirteen years ago)
unless it flops (and i'm not even sure what would qualify as a 'flop' here, this things guaranteed to be their best selling album many times over already) you're probably right about that grammy.
― balls, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:41 (thirteen years ago)
except for the end of "Contact"
yeah cos it's noisy it can't be canonical
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:43 (thirteen years ago)
so saith grammy, so say we all
― balls, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:44 (thirteen years ago)
the grammy awards 'canon' also includes 4 foo fighters albums from the last decade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Best_Rock_Album
― iatee, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:44 (thirteen years ago)
i love the foo fighters
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:45 (thirteen years ago)
i do think i wouldn't mind living in a world where the velvet underground weren't canonized but anne murray was, for a little while at least
― balls, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:47 (thirteen years ago)
tbf to the grammys the foo fighters are likely to get in the rrhof before anyone on this album
― balls, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:48 (thirteen years ago)
wow i never thought this thread would become a clusterfuck
― great wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:50 (thirteen years ago)
you were right?
― caek, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:52 (thirteen years ago)
This thread was a clusterfuck even before the album came out.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:53 (thirteen years ago)
No need for the circular firing squad...
My point in the comment above was that Daft Punk seems to have picked up a lot of new bands since the pyramid tour and they are getting a really big roll out for this album. It's shaping up to be their biggest hit, from what I can tell. So what I'm trying to figure out is, has there been any other record pushed this aggressively to the "kids" in the last 20-30 years that featured prominent Chic/Steely Dan/Herbie Hancock/Return To Forever flavors?
― Moodles, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:53 (thirteen years ago)
― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:15 PM (37 minutes ago)
otm. i didn't know what to make of "touch" the first time through. i recoiled from the "cheezy" paul williams-ness, but was fascinated all the way through. on the second pass, i dug it, but felt a bit guilty. since then, it's been unashamedly glorious.
not a phoenix fan tho
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:57 (thirteen years ago)
"A little sincerity is a dangerous thing, and a great deal of it is absolutely fatal."
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:59 (thirteen years ago)
yeah yeah, and "ornament is crime"
feh
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:02 (thirteen years ago)
music should be considered on a scale with 'giving the people what they want' at one end and 'doing what makes them happy' at the other
― great wallogina (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:02 (thirteen years ago)
because i think i know where this album belongs
No I don't like what Phoenix have become but the 1st album does sound like a blueprint for this...and in IMO you can never be too sincere...
― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:04 (thirteen years ago)
Williams' bit reminds me of Elton John's performance on Kate Bush's "Snowed In at Wheeler Street" -- while his devotion was unquestioned, it was a chore listening to him sing a song quite beyond his shrunken range.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:04 (thirteen years ago)
Yes that it is iiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttttt. That's what it reminds me of sonically. Damn yo, "otm" doesn't cover the otm-ness of it.
Whoa.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:06 (thirteen years ago)
Wheeler Street is great, you're crazy
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:06 (thirteen years ago)
My problem with citing sincerity as a virtue is it gets into intentions; we're judging cause as we would effects.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:06 (thirteen years ago)
Sonically, I don't find it a chore to listen to tbh
But so spot on
xxxp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_RoBGpNGfsBACKLASH
― UTW, USA, ILX LIFER (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:08 (thirteen years ago)
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, May 14, 2013 5:04 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
see also elvis costello after 1985--always writing songs out of his vocal range.
i dunno so far "touch" just seems like this unholy amalgam
this isn't a bad thing necessarily but i can see this album giving folks like robert christgau serious hives
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:11 (thirteen years ago)