The balance is a bit off. I could do with a little more Giorgio/Contact intensity and a little less robot-feels-sad-as-cocaine-wears-off vocoder crooning.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:36 (thirteen years ago)
lol okay "Motherboard" is so far my favorite song on the album just by virtue of having the busiest, most interesting drums
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:37 (thirteen years ago)
yeah "Motherboard" is the only song I've liked without reservation so far
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:39 (thirteen years ago)
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, May 14, 2013 8:36 AM (2 minutes ago)
no way, the melancholy fuckbot parts are awesome
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:40 (thirteen years ago)
In the spirit of "too much time on ilx" I keep expecting Frank Gambale to turn up and give a monologue about pinball machines
― scintilla (seandalai), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:41 (thirteen years ago)
Contact sucks imo, worst track on it. They should never make techno again.
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:41 (thirteen years ago)
whoopz. thought DJP said "Contact."
― ḉrut (crüt), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:41 (thirteen years ago)
"Motherboard" is fantastic
"Fragments of Time"
okay this is the first song where I can agree with the Steely Dan comparisons
it's okay
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:43 (thirteen years ago)
I am tempted to go to the Janelle Monae thread and see how many of the people over there complaining about her being an overly theatrical theater kid are into this album
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, May 14, 2013 3:23 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It would be misleading to conflate all the different potential meanings of "theatrical" though. DP don't do spirit fingers. Not least because they don't really have fingers.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:44 (thirteen years ago)
The theatricality of "Touch" fits in with the narrative theatricality running through The Archandroid; I agree it's overstatement to compare the entire Daft Punk album to it.
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:45 (thirteen years ago)
they have beautiful fingers!
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:45 (thirteen years ago)
There's no spirit fingers in "Touch"?
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:46 (thirteen years ago)
If you want to see how people react to really bad theatricality in this sort of thing, check the Aeroplane thread.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:46 (thirteen years ago)
i really love when the horns come in on touch and wish there was a whole song of that
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:47 (thirteen years ago)
There's also a lot more stylistic variation on The Archandroid with a lot of different moods on display, whereas this album basically alternates between "I'm in a lounge" and "I'm weeping in the mirror"
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:47 (thirteen years ago)
otm.
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:48 (thirteen years ago)
You haven't gotten to Contact yet.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:49 (thirteen years ago)
haha oh boy, I'm on the Panda Bear track
there are shades of "what if we made 'My Girls' slower and more tasteful" going on here performancewise
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:49 (thirteen years ago)
I'm finding it semi-compelling though in a way most of the rest of the album isn't
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:50 (thirteen years ago)
i thought the panda bear was fine. there's too much need to have a big garish opinion about his not as garish as usual guest spot.
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:50 (thirteen years ago)
The theatricality of Janelle is for better or worse tied up in self-presentation, the ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME undercurrent of the theatre-kid's theatricality.
I don't think it's possible to pinpoint a coherent personable identity behind the sound of the album (or even just "Touch") in order to facilitate the comparison, even if arguably the album is less varied stylistically as you say.
I'd sooner compare Basement Jaxx to Janelle.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:51 (thirteen years ago)
this album basically alternates between "I'm in a lounge" and "I'm weeping in the mirror"
sold
― Koné 2013 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:51 (thirteen years ago)
It's their tribute to post-sellout Herbie Hancock. I dig it.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:53 (thirteen years ago)
But there will never be another Discovery.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:54 (thirteen years ago)
Does there have to be?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:55 (thirteen years ago)
this album basically alternates between "I'm in a lounge" and "I'm snorting things off a mirror"
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:56 (thirteen years ago)
weeping cocaine iirc
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:56 (thirteen years ago)
alvin lucier b-sides xpost
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:56 (thirteen years ago)
watching the end of a party through mirrors
― gr8080, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:57 (thirteen years ago)
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5076/63720082vy5.jpg
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:57 (thirteen years ago)
this is all far better than the 1000 uses of "weeping robots" or "robots having sex" that i've read in ref to ram in the last few weeks
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:58 (thirteen years ago)
Looking at yourself in the mirror after snorting things off a mirror and feeling sad.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:59 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/M6xfghs.jpg
― gr8080, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:00 (thirteen years ago)
http://staffwww.dcs.shef.ac.uk/people/A.Sharkey/sadrobot.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:00 (thirteen years ago)
I don't think it's possible to pinpoint a coherent personable identity behind the sound of the album (or even just "Touch") in order to facilitate the comparison
I disagree very, very strongly with this. This is the most relentlessly personality-driven Daft Punk release I've heard, basically taking the earnestness of "Music Sounds Better With You" and reflecting it through 13 different prisms. Everything on here builds on top of each other in probably the most monolithic-feeling artistic statement I've heard from a non-hardcore band. I absolutely agree that narratively this album is not trying to do anything like what Monae was trying to do with her album; instead, it's telling a story through its musical choices and most of those choices seem to be saying "hey look, we can do Proper Music too". For me, the album doesn't really get interesting until they either find a good groove and stop fucking around with it (the non-solo parts of "Giorgio By Moroder") or they actually let the drummers loose (the rhythm sections are a big part of why the builds in "Motherboard" and "Contact" work and I think those are the most emotionally satisfying tracks on the album; in fact, I feel like the more they lean towards their 70s touchstones to generate an emotional response, the less successful they are at getting one from me).
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:00 (thirteen years ago)
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMVU3sWeGuRifUsfhrfS9QbijTtpUaBLj9qqdPJr9j2hsyDX8
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:01 (thirteen years ago)
the earnestness of "Music Sounds Better With You"
was this really an earnest record?
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:02 (thirteen years ago)
plus music sounds better with you was not daft punk
Yeah, there is a weird disconnect between their fealty to disco and groove and the simultaneous distrust/subversion of groove.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:02 (thirteen years ago)
xxxxpost but it's not a record about or apparently by a specific person or even "person" - I think that's crucial to the kind of theatricality that Janelle flaunts.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:04 (thirteen years ago)
I just don't think "theatre kid" even remotely applies to this album and I don't think it's fair to act like it's inconsistent to like the theatre and dislike theatre kids.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:05 (thirteen years ago)
Feeling sad after remixing JT's "Mirrors" and running out of coke
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:05 (thirteen years ago)
most of those choices seem to be saying "hey look, we can do Proper Music too"
it's so far from this. it's the opposite. this is the record to stop people assimilating them into the credibility canon, not to cement their place in it.
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:07 (thirteen years ago)
i think their place is already cemented in it
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:12 (thirteen years ago)
and as divisive as some of the influences are, a record with as much emphasis on craft and as many canonical guests on it as this is no way to extricate yourself from the canon
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:14 (thirteen years ago)
How can you not feel the giant waves of sobbing emotion coming off of the vocal from MSBWY?
Don't be dense. Not only is there a strong connection between Daft Punk and Stardust, the overarching musical strands of this album are directly connected to the sources sampled by Stardust, only without the gigantic thumping drums.
but it's not a record about or apparently by a specific person or even "person" - I think that's crucial to the kind of theatricality that Janelle flaunts.
No, it's theatrical for the sake of being theatrical, which is even more self-indulgent and off-putting IMO.
it's so far from this. it's the opposite.
... Their musical choices are saying "hey look, we can't do Proper Music"?
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:16 (thirteen years ago)
it's an oddball canon tho, don't think Paul Williams speaks to the canon-building fraternity really
― Koné 2013 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:16 (thirteen years ago)
yeah but you can't deny it's a very intentional flipping of the script!!
xposts to lex
― gr8080, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:18 (thirteen years ago)
― Tim F, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:05 AM (6 minutes ago)
otm. there's some use of "theatricality" here, esp on "touch", but i don't get any sense of try-hard expressive exhibitionism from this album. the sensibility feels pretty reserved and curatorial to me, however deftly it may deploy signifiers of hedonistic abandon or glassy-eyed melancholy.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:18 (thirteen years ago)