Daft Punk's Random Access Memories

lex otm

not very keen on it after one listen. That panda bear track ffs.

like, late 70s and early 80s? giorgio WHO?? they done flipped the script!!!!!!

i don't really get how '70s/'80s yacht rock/soft rock is seen as uncool? beardo disco has been a thing for ages now, steely dan may be divisive generally but they're a touchstone to the point of cliché on ilm that you can't say they're seen as uncool, that whole decadent white-suited on-a-boat aesthetic is seen as uncool by NO ONE

This album is pitching to and will be heard by a MUCH bigger and wider audience than the rest of that stuff though, in the wider world that aesthetic is still seen as pretty naff.

i don't really get how '70s/'80s yacht rock/soft rock is seen as uncool? beardo disco has been a thing for ages now, steely dan may be divisive generally but they're a touchstone to the point of cliché on ilm that you can't say they're seen as uncool, that whole decadent white-suited on-a-boat aesthetic is seen as uncool by NO ONE. obviously it's a departure for daft punk - insofar as that means much after the amount of time they took off - but i'm not hearing much on this album that's so unlike what anyone else has been doing recently.

I like the sentiment, but tell me where you've heard something like Touch before -- or Giorgio.

I'm not speaking to their quality -- but I do think these tracks are bizarre little creatures.

this album would be much better with the lack of panda bear but that would be the case with any album

in the wider world that aesthetic is still seen as pretty naff

giorgio moroder? nile rodgers? nahhhhh

it's nothing like "beardo disco" and yacht rock is a vague construct. the references are all filtered through daft punk's own sound. the paul williams track is kinda the height of uncool i'd say - judging by the "it sounds like a disney tune, omg i am cool rock guy i can't like this" bullshit that i'm reading all morning.

xpost the nile stuff is the only shiny acceptable pop - naff is part of moroder's appeal.

like almost every reference point on this album is pretty established & canonical. i really don't get why people are SURPRISED it sounds like this - i guess it's a surprise that not much is uptempo but in terms of the sounds they're using this is what the pre-release talk and "get lucky" led me to expect. i could be down with it if it wasn't executed in such a dry way - as it is i probably prefer it to discovery

the last time moroder got widespread mainstream press was when donna summer died (RIP) and the tone was reverential across the board

yeah that's what i meant, matt - what's been 'cool' on ilm and on the london etc club scene for a few years and on pitchfork for a bit less is still locked within what the more wider audience that are also anticipating this album (and buying millions of copies of get lucky, chic-ian disco at least having been more rehabilitated than the rest of those sounds) considers uncool.

in terms of the sounds they're using this is what the pre-release talk and "get lucky" led me to expect

fair enough if that's your opinion but i think the overwhelming reaction suggests you're in the minority.

yeah that's what i meant, matt - what's been 'cool' on ilm and on the london etc club scene for a few years and on pitchfork for a bit less is still locked within what the more wider audience that are also anticipating this album (and buying millions of copies of get lucky, chic-ian disco at least having been more rehabilitated than the rest of those sounds) considers uncool.

otm. moroder to a wider world is canonical but that doesn't equate to fashionable or cool.

xp the cheesy late 70s and 80s is definitely still a thing for an awful lot of people.

This album is being played in my office at the moment and there are a lot of noses being turned up because of the whole aesthetic. Like the sound itself is fashionable but only among a self-selecting crowd who pay attention to these things.

Like, obviously disco is permanently popular in the mainstream but not this end of disco.

but most of the negative reactions i've scene are not from this "wider audience" of mainstreamers who don't get yacht rock, it's from people who are knowledgeable about/immersed in the "london etc club scene"

but most of the negative reactions i've scene are not from this "wider audience" of mainstreamers who don't get yacht rock, it's from people who are knowledgeable about/immersed in the "london etc club scene"

most of the neg reactions i'm seeing are from people who only listen to modern music or fashionable music.

there are a decent amount from people who think that homework reverence is some sort of purist stronghold too

a selection of reactions from people who are not those people

http://www.factmag.com/2013/05/14/they-have-officially-gervaised-the-best-initial-reactions-to-daft-punks-random-access-memories/

but most of the negative reactions i've scene are not from this "wider audience" of mainstreamers who don't get yacht rock, it's from people who are knowledgeable about/immersed in the "london etc club scene"

Yeah but a) that accounts for most of the people you know, or at least people who are passionately into music, b) a lot of the 12-CD types who will buy this record on the basis of Get Lucky and a review in Q haven't even heard it yet.

a selection of reactions from people who are not those people

That's a selection of reactions from people who are virtually all basically part of the same group.

i don't think you can assume just cos someone is into clubbing that they like "yacht rock" or whatever - whatever that even means apart from that one RA mix by Johnno Burgess. Nor can you assume they like "beardo disco" whatever that even means - a massive wide swathe of stuff. this is a record that doesn't fit a given fashion and that is the source of problems i reckon.

“Listening to a certain new album; feel like I’m listening to classic rock for old men. Really bored. Dance music reaching its Mojo point”
- Alex Macpherson, FACT

What's a Mojo point?

what's the point of Alex Macpherson in 2013?

Dance music hit its Mojo point at least a decade ago but you can't deny this is a pretty old-mannish record, even if it's kind of a weird old man.

basically everybody in that list is a cunt who can get tae fuck

like i wanna hear a bunch of middle aged men going "urrrgh this record isn't down with the youth like i am"

oops sorry lex thought you was Alex Patterson for a second

you can't deny this is a pretty old-mannish record

not entirely no, it has a couple of old men on it though, omg.

what is wrong with someone being old? we're all of us probably over 30 on this thread - we'll all be older or old men or women one day. glad i don't hate the elderly personally.

i mean cos it has paul williams on it, he's old, or nile rodgers, he's old, or daft punk are forty. big fucking deal, people age.

This seems to sum it up quite nicely:

“So I listened to this Daft Punk album once while browsing the web. I will now unveil my critique” — the Internet, 5/13/13″
- John Darnielle, Mountain Goats

I like the record a lot, but it is old mannish, and that's not a bad thing.

thanks LG, that was a more civil version of what i meant to say. thank fuck all music isn't made by 20 year-olds

I like the record a lot, but it is old mannish, and that's not a bad thing.

why, because women can't or don't like music of whatever type? music doesn't have a gender.

let's find a woman who likes this record to post on the thread for us old men.

it'd make us bunch of old fuckers happy in our dying days.

oops sorry lex thought you was Alex Patterson for a second

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record not old mannish enough for my tastes, weak points come in collaborations w/ lex's peers: panda bear, julian casablancas, pharell

bunch of weird old man complaining about a record for weird old men itt

wait what age are you

everyone scan their birth certs

fwiw i quite like it on first listen #thekbpverdict

So what did you think of the Sherbets bit?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cd/2000yo.jpg/250px-2000yo.jpg

why is no one talking about the record that REALLY influenced R.A.M. more than any other

As for age, I am a lich.

also anyone acting like there's significantly more nostalgia or significantly less ambition on the new one compared to discovery doesn't know their shit. not saying the new one holds up to discovery (it doesn't)(though how fucking corny an indie fuxxor do you have to be to actually think 'this isn't a Masterpiece, this doesn't advance the narrative, FAIL'?) but this is sure as fuck not treading water or phoning it in.

So what did you think of the Sherbets bit?

I'm not old enough to remember Sherbert as anything but a 30 second intervention in some History of Australian Pop Music documentary but just old enough to remember Daryl Braithwaite, Adult Contemporary Superstar, so I'm still majorly amused that he's getting a writing credit...

...not that he fully appreciates its significance...

...and, er, the sampling was good, I guess.

amazing how the guitar on "Fragments of Time" is mixed to sound exactly like Steely Dan circa 2000 and Two Against Nature. Now there's an unexpected touchstone!

I was streaming the thing on iTunes and following the wikipedia page to keep up with the track titles and I almost choked up my cereal reading that Daryl Braithwaite had a credit on contact...had a wild and crazy hope that "The Horses" might have been sampled

If they sampled "One Summer", then mathematically, it would have been the best song ever.

This whole thing reminds me of when Photek released that sappy house album

The Holy Ghost new single is better then RAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuAoGdWBaaY&feature=youtu.be

i'm glad there are things better than this record, that means i don't have to bother listening to it. if somebody cd just let me know what the best record is it wd save me a lot of wasted time, thanks.

like almost every reference point on this album is pretty established & canonical.

The people complaining about Alan Parsons Project, rock musicals and Level 42 beg to differ. I don't think the canon is what you think it is.