plus, shit that will (and should) make it:
Erykah BaduGang Gang DanceNo AgePortisheadTV on the RadioVampire WeekendLil Wayne
except gang gang dance. grime thing should make tracks, but album is colossal meh. will make it anyway, due to siouxie <3.
shit that will NOT make it:
james blackshawharvey milknobunny:(
plus anyone who has listened to the bug for more than month should know that shit is HELLA BORING. poison dart notwithstanding. another one for trx only. shame on you, ILM.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:41 (seventeen years ago)
It's not hard to define electrodribble. The Postal Service album was the originator of the movement, though some music it would apply to came before that. Nevertheless, The Postal Service can be made responsible for the musical zeitgeist that occurred in its wake.
And if that's not definition enough, without naming specific offenders, I don't know if I can make it any clearer.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:43 (seventeen years ago)
dr. fever, layin it down str8
happy valentines!
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:44 (seventeen years ago)
grime thing should make tracks, but album is colossal meh.
so wrong. "princes" is good, but it's like my 7th-favorite track. you know what's great about that album (among other things), is the drummer. great drummer.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:50 (seventeen years ago)
agree about the drummer, but most of the tracks remain more interesting than deeply compelling to me. i mean good, solid, intriging, but not quite great. but when mr. tinchy starts talking it's like a sudden transmission from a different, far better planet/record. the disjunction is just too massive and too awesome to ignore. good band, GREAT song.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:54 (seventeen years ago)
"colossal meh" was some bullshit. i've had drinks. it's a good record.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:55 (seventeen years ago)
happy valentines (again), tomorrow calls...
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:59 (seventeen years ago)
Lil Wayne
Duh, I meant to include him.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Saturday, 14 February 2009 06:11 (seventeen years ago)
ILM top ten for 2009, my projected order:
10 Lindstrøm9 Air France8 Gang Gang Dance7 Cut Copy6 TV on the Radio5 Vampire Weekend4 Hercules and Love Affair3 Lil Wayne2 Erykah Badu1 Portishead
I am 100% confident in the artists, not sure at all about the placement order.
Thoughts?
― ilxor, Saturday, 14 February 2009 06:17 (seventeen years ago)
The order of the top 3 is probably right, the rest is up in the air. You're right about the artists, though.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 February 2009 06:25 (seventeen years ago)
Looks about right. Musically did mention something about suprises in placement order, though.
― Dan S, Saturday, 14 February 2009 06:26 (seventeen years ago)
this would basically look like every other list i've seen this year. based on 50-11, i wouldnt doubt a couple curveballs are going to be thrown in there
― Jewish Lager (k3vin k.), Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:01 (seventeen years ago)
The only one I think doesn't have a 100% chance of making it is Lindstrøm... but that's a stretch.
― ilxor, Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:12 (seventeen years ago)
i wanna say air frince just because it's an EP, but two of its tracks placed and a lot of people liked it
― Jewish Lager (k3vin k.), Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:15 (seventeen years ago)
doubts about lindstrom & air france. rest seem safe. cut copy?
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:21 (seventeen years ago)
shower running, can't stay away...
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:22 (seventeen years ago)
Air France, maybe not. The fact that Lindstrøm didn't place lower may guarantee it's in the top 10, though.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:26 (seventeen years ago)
Unless everyone voted for it 20 out of 20 and it got a bunch of 1-point nods.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:27 (seventeen years ago)
I just want to say again... But since it can't be adequately defined, it just becomes a big stick with which we can all merrily beat some unsuspecting (and often undeserving) artist. I mean, had it been a term back then, would somebody have used it to disparage Kraftwerk... or Tubeway Army... or Bronski Beat... or New Order? I just don't get it. Ridiculing electro sounds in pop/rock seems like a really pointless (and frankly weird) dead-end street to go down.
I mean, the edges keep creeping outward and the next thing you know, SOMETHING YOU HOLD DEAR is now... gasp... electrodribble. It's kind of dumb, really, isn't it?
Anyway, let's hope Vampire Weekend don't make the top 10, I think we can all agree on that.
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 08:30 (seventeen years ago)
Or TVotR, for that matter.
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 08:32 (seventeen years ago)
I love the VW record, so I don't agree.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 February 2009 08:32 (seventeen years ago)
I voted Lindstrom as my number one and i bet i wasn't the only one. >_<
― Disco/Very (Roz), Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:01 (seventeen years ago)
can I say I don't get people who only lik3e"Poison Dart"? one of the most boring tracks on the album! wtf
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:28 (seventeen years ago)
man fuck a hater I hope Vampire Weekend and TVotR make the top ten
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:30 (seventeen years ago)
the upbeat afrofunk joints on the new tvotr are the only good things they have done imo
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:31 (seventeen years ago)
fuck yall btw
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:32 (seventeen years ago)
like i said it's the cognitive dissonance that intrigues me, like, i'm listening and thinking 'i have every reason in the world to hate this song" and i cant bring myself to it. pretty powerful thing imo
this happens a lot w/kanye! though not with 'robocop' for me, that shit sucks. i mean seriously, ROBOCOP? how the hell did that simile make it past the editing process? and the "spoilt little LA girl" chant is definitely the nadir of something or other.
If someone called me a Robocop as we were on the verge of breaking up that would be the dealbreaker
brainwasher otm. i get that i'm not supposed to sympathise w/kanye, that the bitterness is part and parcel of his whole experience, and i'm down with that on most of the songs, but the problem with the 'robocop' lyric isn't so much that dude is being a dick as dude is being retarded and using 12-year-old schoolboy similes.
i didn't vote for it b/c there's no way it's one of the 20 best albums of the year but i'm glad it placed where it did - absolutely love 'welcome to heartbreak' (which is where the cog. dissonance that kevin talked about really works - yeah it's a spoiled multimillionaire whining about his luxurious life but he definitely captures the gilded-cage isolation of it - plus that synth line is just gorgeous), and 'heartless' works surprisingly well in a radio context, like hearing it in a clothes shop and stuff. also i like 'see you in my nightmares' a lot, may as well admit that in the middle of this long-ass paragraph where no one will see. apart from the "mrs PU" line obv! why can kanye and wayne not self-edit those moments. no wonder trina dumped his ass. trina and alexis need to get together and work on a single ladies clothing line or something. you just know they're more fun to hang with.
(also poor "Pinocchio Story", what a load of balls)
weirdest thing was that apparently this endlessly terrible thing was included on 808s at beyoncé's insistence o_0
anyway i am SO PLEASED that the recession placed higher than 808s. jordan's write-up was completely otm - "pitch perfect" sums it up really. hip-hop album of the year no contest for me, it's just got everything - clever lines, dumb lines (like ign'ant good dumb, not kanye retarded dumb), that zeitgeisty topical feel (without being too self-conscious or heavy-handed), moodiness and triumphalism and a ton of hooks.
also really pleased about the bug, though i'd thought it might make the top 10. so yeah overall i <3 the 20-11 section, the poll's really coming alive, good work to all, and maybe vampire weekend will miss out altogether, the audacity of hope and change and all that.
― lex pretend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:37 (seventeen years ago)
drunk rev! <3
― lex pretend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:39 (seventeen years ago)
man the prob w robocop isnt the lyrics but htat it sounds like some soul calibur 2 or final fantasy tactics bullsh
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:40 (seventeen years ago)
haha drunk rev <3 is right
too hungover to think of anything else which might/should make it - guess i can stop holding out for mariah, trus'me and jazmine now - but 20-11 will easily be the best section of the list in that case.
― lex pretend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:41 (seventeen years ago)
lex get on aim u muthafuka hit me up "reverenddollars"
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:42 (seventeen years ago)
#11 is kinda perfect 4 the bug tho
Haha I love how this has thread has become everyone sending hearts and congratulating one another on a job well done, interspersed with LJ frothing in indignation.
― Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:57 (seventeen years ago)
No T.I. then?
― raaaaaaaaaah (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:59 (seventeen years ago)
:-/
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 11:32 (seventeen years ago)
never really connected with the Paper Trails hype
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 14 February 2009 11:44 (seventeen years ago)
tha carter iii would be a kickass #1 btw. prob not gonna happen tho right?
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 14 February 2009 11:45 (seventeen years ago)
1. Erykah Badu2. Portishead3. Lil Wayne
stuff this poll to the gills with all the electrodribble you want; but if that's the top 3 it'll be the greatest poll ever!
― 37 x 18 = (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:13 (seventeen years ago)
So this Portishead album is good then yeah?
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:17 (seventeen years ago)
that edge-of-the-world beat really works for him - also added oomph from ye dropping the track before his verse comes in
yeah i love that moment, w/the howling wolves in the background and shit - it's like the inverse of that episodic pause before kanye's verse on 'put on'
EYES SO LOW YEAH I LOOK LIKE AN ASIAN
favourite hip-hop line in this vein will always & 4eva be "i wanna nigga that'll grab the weave and turn my eyes chinese"
― lex pretend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:17 (seventeen years ago)
It's good. It's way overhyped. It'd be a decent winner, given what else is apparently left.
― there's no antivote to (country matters), Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:18 (seventeen years ago)
Anyway, after that little interjection, I have sport to be watching. Adios.
i think lj might like the erykah badu album?
― lex pretend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:19 (seventeen years ago)
Lex, I solemnly promise you I will give it every chance :)
― there's no antivote to (country matters), Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:21 (seventeen years ago)
in my expereince, the badu album breaks down like this:
songs 2-4 are the most immediate winners, esp. 'the healer' songs 5-7 take a little more time, but persevere; once they click the rest of the album falls into place.
― 37 x 18 = (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:23 (seventeen years ago)
don't know ab tthe portishead album...but me putting it at #2 was concessions; from all talk, it pretty much is surefire #1
― 37 x 18 = (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:25 (seventeen years ago)
I dunno, it took me a long time to *get* Erykah Badu. It involved waking up during a looong bus journey with The Other Side of the Game having come on shuffle on my mp3.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:26 (seventeen years ago)
Just put on Portishead, from first 30seconds this is already better than I thought it would be. A lot better.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:28 (seventeen years ago)
i think the portishead album is a really impressive piece of work but i never got as into it as i expected (they were my favourite group when i was a teenager) - i admire it from afar rather than loving it, so i didn't vote for it.
― lex pretend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:30 (seventeen years ago)