lack of exposure or lack of interest/musical tunnel vision, whatever
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 02:22 (seventeen years ago)
Love Love/Hate, but kinda surprised at how many guys are jumping on with the love in this thread for two reasons. The first being what Tim F said, I kindof assumed the people who would like this would have already heard this (if that makes sense) and also it was a bit of a slow burner for me. Like there's an initial wtf jolt but then after that it takes a little living with before it starts to come apart in your hands.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 14 February 2009 02:26 (seventeen years ago)
Its a very tight, knotted album and there are weird surfaces that are plastic then glass then air.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 14 February 2009 02:27 (seventeen years ago)
I would like it if the people who hadn't heard many of the "obscure" picks of 50-21 would check them out.I'd like to hear that Alex Moulton. Every link I find online has expired/been taken down.
― The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 February 2009 02:38 (seventeen years ago)
I would like it if the people who hadn't heard many of the "obscure" picks of 50-21 would check them out.I'd like to hear that Alex Moulton.
Me too, to both.
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 02:48 (seventeen years ago)
Also, I'm pretty sure I voted for the Cut Copy, but one day I made a mix for someone and Cut Copy were next to New Order and it really put the former in perspective, in terms of their ambitions and especially the falling short part. :(
Not being a hater, I like them well enough.
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 02:50 (seventeen years ago)
I know I'm jumping around a lot here -- I always seem to arrive at the current end of this very long thread after everyone's left -- but as for that MGMT album, I agree for the most part with those who said only the singles are any good, but those singles were plenty good enough for me to include it in my vote, and I would add that the second half of "Of Moons, Birds and Monsters" is kind of awesomely beautiful, while "Weekend Wars" is also more than decent. The rest, okay, kind of meh, but fifty per cent of the album isn't a bad return.
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 02:57 (seventeen years ago)
Glad to see people are discovering The-Dream. Would just like to note that he has a new album coming out super soon. Hear three tracks on http://radiokillarecords.com (oh, and you can also listen to Love/Hate and Electrik Red). Assuming the rest of it is this good, I hope to see it in next year's top tennnnnn
― Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Saturday, 14 February 2009 03:45 (seventeen years ago)
thanks tim
guys im pretty proud of this list im not gonna lie, even shit like grouper that i have no idea about. it's a pretty exciting list and i think it represents 08 ilm
― big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 14 February 2009 04:12 (seventeen years ago)
I agree.
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 04:13 (seventeen years ago)
I think we can now officially forgive ILM for coining the term "electro-dribble", right guys?
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 04:14 (seventeen years ago)
j/k
forgive? it's one of the high points of this thread.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 14 February 2009 04:31 (seventeen years ago)
Ugh, yeah, maybe this thread, but...
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 04:34 (seventeen years ago)
i'm putting "electrodribble" on my google alerts. i am confident it will find its way into the critical lexicon.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 14 February 2009 04:42 (seventeen years ago)
But since it can't be adequately defined, it just becomes a big stick with which we can all merrily beat some unsuspecting (and often undeserving) artist. I mean, had it been a term back then, would somebody have used it to disparage Kraftwerk... or Tubeway Army... or Bronski Beat... or New Order? I just don't get it. Ridiculing electro sounds in pop/rock seems like a really pointless (and frankly weird) dead-end street to go down.
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 04:56 (seventeen years ago)
Ridiculing electro sounds in pop/rock seems like a really pointless (and frankly weird) dead-end street to go down.
That street rules. This poll blows!!!!!!!
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 14 February 2009 04:59 (seventeen years ago)
okay
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:01 (seventeen years ago)
I mean, really?
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:02 (seventeen years ago)
fuck ridicule. electrodribble forever.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:34 (seventeen years ago)
ive not once opened the electro dribble thread but every time i see it mentioned here i think of:
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:35 (seventeen years ago)
plus, shit that will (and should) make it:
Erykah BaduGang Gang DanceNo AgePortisheadTV on the RadioVampire WeekendLil Wayne
except gang gang dance. grime thing should make tracks, but album is colossal meh. will make it anyway, due to siouxie <3.
shit that will NOT make it:
james blackshawharvey milknobunny:(
plus anyone who has listened to the bug for more than month should know that shit is HELLA BORING. poison dart notwithstanding. another one for trx only. shame on you, ILM.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:41 (seventeen years ago)
It's not hard to define electrodribble. The Postal Service album was the originator of the movement, though some music it would apply to came before that. Nevertheless, The Postal Service can be made responsible for the musical zeitgeist that occurred in its wake.
And if that's not definition enough, without naming specific offenders, I don't know if I can make it any clearer.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:43 (seventeen years ago)
dr. fever, layin it down str8
happy valentines!
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:44 (seventeen years ago)
grime thing should make tracks, but album is colossal meh.
so wrong. "princes" is good, but it's like my 7th-favorite track. you know what's great about that album (among other things), is the drummer. great drummer.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:50 (seventeen years ago)
agree about the drummer, but most of the tracks remain more interesting than deeply compelling to me. i mean good, solid, intriging, but not quite great. but when mr. tinchy starts talking it's like a sudden transmission from a different, far better planet/record. the disjunction is just too massive and too awesome to ignore. good band, GREAT song.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:54 (seventeen years ago)
"colossal meh" was some bullshit. i've had drinks. it's a good record.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:55 (seventeen years ago)
happy valentines (again), tomorrow calls...
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:59 (seventeen years ago)
Lil Wayne
Duh, I meant to include him.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Saturday, 14 February 2009 06:11 (seventeen years ago)
ILM top ten for 2009, my projected order:
10 Lindstrøm9 Air France8 Gang Gang Dance7 Cut Copy6 TV on the Radio5 Vampire Weekend4 Hercules and Love Affair3 Lil Wayne2 Erykah Badu1 Portishead
I am 100% confident in the artists, not sure at all about the placement order.
Thoughts?
― ilxor, Saturday, 14 February 2009 06:17 (seventeen years ago)
The order of the top 3 is probably right, the rest is up in the air. You're right about the artists, though.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 February 2009 06:25 (seventeen years ago)
Looks about right. Musically did mention something about suprises in placement order, though.
― Dan S, Saturday, 14 February 2009 06:26 (seventeen years ago)
this would basically look like every other list i've seen this year. based on 50-11, i wouldnt doubt a couple curveballs are going to be thrown in there
― Jewish Lager (k3vin k.), Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:01 (seventeen years ago)
The only one I think doesn't have a 100% chance of making it is Lindstrøm... but that's a stretch.
― ilxor, Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:12 (seventeen years ago)
i wanna say air frince just because it's an EP, but two of its tracks placed and a lot of people liked it
― Jewish Lager (k3vin k.), Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:15 (seventeen years ago)
doubts about lindstrom & air france. rest seem safe. cut copy?
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:21 (seventeen years ago)
shower running, can't stay away...
― contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:22 (seventeen years ago)
Air France, maybe not. The fact that Lindstrøm didn't place lower may guarantee it's in the top 10, though.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:26 (seventeen years ago)
Unless everyone voted for it 20 out of 20 and it got a bunch of 1-point nods.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:27 (seventeen years ago)
I just want to say again... But since it can't be adequately defined, it just becomes a big stick with which we can all merrily beat some unsuspecting (and often undeserving) artist. I mean, had it been a term back then, would somebody have used it to disparage Kraftwerk... or Tubeway Army... or Bronski Beat... or New Order? I just don't get it. Ridiculing electro sounds in pop/rock seems like a really pointless (and frankly weird) dead-end street to go down.
I mean, the edges keep creeping outward and the next thing you know, SOMETHING YOU HOLD DEAR is now... gasp... electrodribble. It's kind of dumb, really, isn't it?
Anyway, let's hope Vampire Weekend don't make the top 10, I think we can all agree on that.
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 08:30 (seventeen years ago)
Or TVotR, for that matter.
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 14 February 2009 08:32 (seventeen years ago)
I love the VW record, so I don't agree.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 February 2009 08:32 (seventeen years ago)
I voted Lindstrom as my number one and i bet i wasn't the only one. >_<
― Disco/Very (Roz), Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:01 (seventeen years ago)
can I say I don't get people who only lik3e"Poison Dart"? one of the most boring tracks on the album! wtf
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:28 (seventeen years ago)
man fuck a hater I hope Vampire Weekend and TVotR make the top ten
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:30 (seventeen years ago)
the upbeat afrofunk joints on the new tvotr are the only good things they have done imo
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:31 (seventeen years ago)
fuck yall btw
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:32 (seventeen years ago)
like i said it's the cognitive dissonance that intrigues me, like, i'm listening and thinking 'i have every reason in the world to hate this song" and i cant bring myself to it. pretty powerful thing imo
this happens a lot w/kanye! though not with 'robocop' for me, that shit sucks. i mean seriously, ROBOCOP? how the hell did that simile make it past the editing process? and the "spoilt little LA girl" chant is definitely the nadir of something or other.
If someone called me a Robocop as we were on the verge of breaking up that would be the dealbreaker
brainwasher otm. i get that i'm not supposed to sympathise w/kanye, that the bitterness is part and parcel of his whole experience, and i'm down with that on most of the songs, but the problem with the 'robocop' lyric isn't so much that dude is being a dick as dude is being retarded and using 12-year-old schoolboy similes.
i didn't vote for it b/c there's no way it's one of the 20 best albums of the year but i'm glad it placed where it did - absolutely love 'welcome to heartbreak' (which is where the cog. dissonance that kevin talked about really works - yeah it's a spoiled multimillionaire whining about his luxurious life but he definitely captures the gilded-cage isolation of it - plus that synth line is just gorgeous), and 'heartless' works surprisingly well in a radio context, like hearing it in a clothes shop and stuff. also i like 'see you in my nightmares' a lot, may as well admit that in the middle of this long-ass paragraph where no one will see. apart from the "mrs PU" line obv! why can kanye and wayne not self-edit those moments. no wonder trina dumped his ass. trina and alexis need to get together and work on a single ladies clothing line or something. you just know they're more fun to hang with.
(also poor "Pinocchio Story", what a load of balls)
weirdest thing was that apparently this endlessly terrible thing was included on 808s at beyoncé's insistence o_0
anyway i am SO PLEASED that the recession placed higher than 808s. jordan's write-up was completely otm - "pitch perfect" sums it up really. hip-hop album of the year no contest for me, it's just got everything - clever lines, dumb lines (like ign'ant good dumb, not kanye retarded dumb), that zeitgeisty topical feel (without being too self-conscious or heavy-handed), moodiness and triumphalism and a ton of hooks.
also really pleased about the bug, though i'd thought it might make the top 10. so yeah overall i <3 the 20-11 section, the poll's really coming alive, good work to all, and maybe vampire weekend will miss out altogether, the audacity of hope and change and all that.
― lex pretend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:37 (seventeen years ago)
drunk rev! <3
― lex pretend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:39 (seventeen years ago)
man the prob w robocop isnt the lyrics but htat it sounds like some soul calibur 2 or final fantasy tactics bullsh
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:40 (seventeen years ago)