Primal Scream.

i'll listen to it today stevie.

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plz report back

can confirm that exterminator rules

yeah i have no time for screamadelica or most of primal scream's work apart from 'velocity girl,' and i love XTRMNTR. top 10 of the decade for me easy.

Screamadelica was a botched album... all the wrong mixes went on in the wrong order and it was at least a year after the fact. XTRMNTR was amazing when it came out and remains so.

50% cosign. XTRMNTR is awesome classic, but I still like Screamadelica a lot.

Very very underwhelmed at the time by Screamadelica. Loved XTRMNTR at the time & occasional listens confirm its marvellousness. I have listened to nothing else by Primal Scream. Should I bother?

Vanishing Point is the only other album you need to hear. I actually prefer it to XTRMNTR, mainly because of how amazing Burning Wheel and Kowalski are.

I don't think they've ever made a masterpiece. Their three best albums all have flaws. Screamadelica has Movin' on up and Loaded which I never need to hear again in my life, Vanishing Point has Star and Medication which are retro bullshit and XTRMNTR features Bobby rapping.

You got to be kidding me, Pills is one of my favourites on the album. If you think of it as the rambling paranoid interior monologue of a guy who's been running on pills for four days without sleep. I think it's absolutely brilliant, the album as a whole is SUCH a masterpiece to me. I know Bobby talks a lot of shite but the flashes of brilliance make up for it tenfold.

I haf listened to this new album and it is quite good.

I know it's all opinion but I'm pretty sure in this instance it's factually correct to say that Bobby Gillespie couldn't rap his way out of a damp paper bag.

You got to be kidding me, Pills is one of my favourites on the album. If you think of it as the rambling paranoid interior monologue of a guy who's been running on pills for four days without sleep. I think it's absolutely brilliant, the album as a whole is SUCH a masterpiece to me. I know Bobby talks a lot of shite but the flashes of brilliance make up for it tenfold.

― MatthewK

Sorry I find his rapping totally embarrassing. "The truth about you, you never been true" I just don't know how anyone can take that seriously.

You don't have to take it seriously to enjoy it.

I kind of want to buy the new album.

The thing is it sounds to me Bobby was being serious when he was doing that rap, like he really wants us to "Tell the truth" but it just sounds bad and I cringe every time I hear it. I do like the album a lot but that song is just a big misstep.

I have to agree. He does it again on Culturecide, which is the only disaster on the new album. I interviewed Gillespie at his manager's house just before XTRMNTR came out and he put the album on and rapped along to Pills. That was awkward.

Pills has honestly never bothered me! The bit where he just gives up and swears over and over and over is awesome.

Anyway, I'm listening to the new one on *gulp* Spotify and it's alright, isn't it? I'm enjoying quite a lot of it. I didn't even give Beautiful Future then dignity of a single listen, and the CD of Riot City Blues got defenestrated, it was that bad.

I just reading reviews of their albums the other day and came across your Riot City Blues one on Stylus, it actually made me want to hear it. I remember quite liking the single from Beautiful Future but never bothered with it even though when Virgin/Zavi was closing they had hundreds of copies selling for a couple of pounds.

Ha! I got the plural of poets laureate wrong in that. Shocking.

Riot City Blues is daft pastiche but harmless - Country Girl and When the Bomb Drops are both keepers. The only worthwhile things from BF are the Fleetwood Mac cover and Weatherall's remix of Uptown. After those two and the patchy Evil Heat the new one is better than anyone could have expected - David Holmes's production is terrific.

I found the production / sound on RCB awful and offensive, but it's a Youth job, from when I was at the height of my crusade, and he's a butcher.

I'm kind of astonished at how good More Light is on second listen. It's not amazing, or anything, but it is just really, really good, all the way through.

I got as far as the phrase "final solution to teenage revolution" and just felt too embarrassed to continue.

Suspension of disbelief Matt

Echo Dek is their best. I'm still trying to find other music that sounds like that and having trouble.

I've paid zero attention to lyrics.

Echo Dek is their best. I'm still trying to find other music that sounds like that and having trouble.

a bunch of the other b-sides/remixes from the period are in the same general ballpark

I've really been enjoying More Light, Even inspired me to go back and give their previous two another go, and both have some good cuts, just not as consistent as the new one.

Evil Heat had some decent moments, a little too overly maligned at the time after Exterminator was good.

Never listened to Echo Dek much, Vanishing Point / Exterminator are probably my faves with Screamadelica after.

so, just found out re the extra disc version.

is it worth it ?

What's on the extra disc?

well, according to amazon :

Disc: 2
1. Nothing Is Real / Nothing Is Unreal
2. Requiem For The Russian Tea Rooms
3. Running Out Of Time
4. Worm Tamer
5. Theme From More Light
6. 2013 (Weatherall Remix)

tempted by the weatherall remix alone to be honest ...

What we used to call 'b-sides' then, I guess.

oooh .. and there is this free live ep via amazon :

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CAA2I1W/ref=dm_ty_trk

ooh it is FREE

Weatherall's Uptown remix was so good your instinct might be right m. e

Worm Tamer

ooh the spice must flow eh

saw the cover of this half an hour ago, just stopped laughing

Blame Momus.

re Disc: 2

1. Nothing Is Real / Nothing Is Unreal << great 5 minute krautrock + horns groove song. love it.

2. Requiem For The Russian Tea Rooms << instrumental. sounds like a dark descendant of roy budd. good stuff.

3. Running Out Of Time << more honking sax, lone bass groove + hard left placed echoed vocals .. before flute action and wah wah guitars join in. brilliant.

4. Worm Tamer << nick cave cover. vocals placed on the left side again (same session as previous track ?). slide guitar loop. 5 minutes of layered sonics, harmonica, before kicking in with some fantastically ott guitar noise.

5. Theme From More Light << more slide guitar and atmospherics, more in line with a ry cooder soundtrack. a throwaway couple of minutes, but adds nicely to the flow of this extra disc (i.e. its not just a chunk of disconnected remixes)

6. 2013 (Weatherall Remix) << over 8 minutes of sci-fi kraut-dub excess. the thin drums + deep bass with the tremolo'd vocals before the momentary widescreen production synth/guitar kicks in at 3 minutes. more sax @ 6 minutes. overall the track is a spooked out, lo-fi variation, giving it a pre-virgin era cabaret voltaire feel. really good.

overall : really glad i picked up the 2cd edition.

is the first disc any good though? :D

hah .. well, i think there are enough reviews out there re the album to figure out whether this is something worth spending your hard-earned cash on. personally i this its rather good.
so far, highlight for me is the swamped out psych fug of 'river of pain'.
cant wait to hear this on my home system.

ok.

a few listens in.

this album hits the same sonic spot as the last david holmes 'solo' album, the holy pictures, (if you haven't got it, then do .. its not 'david holmes does dance music' at all) and andrew w's recent collaboration, the asphodells, but is a lot more satisfying than both of those efforts.

this is another album on which the so called established folks involved feel to have genuinely made an effort for their 2013 effort.

see also : bowie, daft punk, qotsa, suede, omd

summary : 2013 = good year.

That's been the most pleasant surprise this year - bands who I thought were pretty much done suddenly bouncing back. Human After All, Beautiful Future and Era Vulgaris were all such crashing disappointments but here we are.

exactly my point DL ..

2013 is the year that people who needed to, raised their game ..

Words in here - http://sickmouthy.com/2013/05/26/albums-from-may-part-1/

stream. the first two songs are pretty great. the first one more in the party vein of screamadelica, the second one a psychedelic ballad kind of thing.

ok, so about a month ago i made a promise that i broke, which was to listen to XTRMNTR for the first time and report back within the day. i've finally listened to it and it is everything the people on this board said it would be... i love the heaviness and the noisiness which never take away from the catchiness. way better than screamadelica, which is still good, but i can see myself loving this album in a way i do not love screamadelica