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only used the dr. evil line because heartless is the single i keep hearing, but the lyric is stoopid.

(Basically, I'm arguing that had he tried to go for a more balanced tone on that song, it wouldn't have worked because the carnival sideshow backing track would have run roughshod over it.)

i agree

Kanye = Carlton Banks but w/ Will Smith's attitudinizing.

― Cunga

truthbombz

Well obviously we disagree on whether or not it "works".

Which is okay

I just disagree with you about it 'working' - he sounds really stupid and bitter, the "spoiled little L.A. girl" thing makes me think "damn dude no wonder she broke up with your ass" - and I can't even enjoy it in a "this is so bad it's good" way, it's just annoying.

― let's get high off our own supply (The Brainwasher), Friday, February 13, 2009 5:00 PM (7 minutes ago)

dude for me it's not a 'so bad it's good' thing; i really appreciate the way kanye has chosen to make this a "moment in time" piece rather than a carefully-planned epic. it really cpatures the way you feel when your heart is broken (whether you deserved it or not) and who doesnt say or think those kinds of things when they're hurt? to me, it really establishes the album's character as vulnerable and redeemable and makes the whole thing infinitely more relateable. jsut one of the reasons it works so well imo.

many many xposts lol or exactly what jordan said! we are on the same page

i am so glad that the state of the 808 debate has not changed a bit in the last couple months. really takes me back, y'know?

"if you missed it the first time on ILX....."

the difference itt is that anthony miccio isn't trolling

brainwasher = anthony m.?

no

hahahahha noo

miccio = da croupier

i'd like to say good to see some big guns outta the way early but

lol @ brainwasher being the gut pick for someone trolling

when like I said in the chris brown thread I am usually half-trolling

anyway musically can you post #13 now

well like I said*

haw i didnt mean it that way, the way you phrased it made it seem as anthony m1ccio was in this thread

my God "Amazing" is great

possibly the most amazing thing about it is how great Jeezy is on it considering that most of the time I hate him

that edge-of-the-world beat really works for him - also added oomph from ye dropping the track before his verse comes in

anyway musically can you post #13 now

― let's get high off our own supply (The Brainwasher)

i would but i don't feel that we have discussed 808s and heartbreak enough

it's okay, we'll keep talking about it regardless of what you post

I'M AMAZING
YEAH IM ALL THAT
IF I AINT ON THE GRIND
THEN WHAT YOU CALL THAT

shit doesn't even have anything to do w/ the album but it's still so poignant imo

okay j0rdan I don't mean to antagonize you butttttt..... how is that 'poignant'? it's just a generic jeezy rhyme

exactly

lol

EYES SO LOW YEAH I LOOK LIKE AN ASIAN

woops wrong "Amazing" but still so poignant

^i don't endorse this as a hot jeezy rhyme fwiw

btw maybe he is @ 13...

just getting my complaining out of the way now and we don't have to discuss it further, i'm really surprised of montreal did not place; i checked the other thread and counted 51.5 points on people prematurely posting their ballots alone, and seeing as the #50 album had only 80 points, i thought it would poke into the bottom fifth somewhere for sure

of montreal is #13

anyway
they don't know you like I do
they'll never know you

The emotional manipulation in this song is breathtaking. More than half of this album is like a laundry list of reasons for no one to ever fuck Kanye again!

lord fuckin willin', but i can't see it
xpost

I gave OM like 6 or 7 points, maybe that'll make the difference

i'm really surprised of montreal did not place

― k3vin k

why u said this? i would put god money on skeletal lamping placing, maybe placing v. high. if i had money, i mean

I'm happy to have been quoted re. 808s, I love it now more than I did a few months ago. It's indie-friendly electrodribble!

and it is

hmm, my indifference to fleet foxes strikes an almost perfect balance with my indifference to kanye. ok, not quite. at least kanye's on my ipod. until i need the space. i know this is a boring thing to say, but my interest in kanye has declined about 20 percent with every album. (still listen to college dropout some.)

It's indie-friendly electrodribble!

maybe this is part of the reason I don't like it that much? The beat on "Paranoid" is very clunky to me for some reason/

conversely, I like Kanye more with each subsequent album (tho if pressed I'd probably agree that Late Registration is his best)

lol i don't know, reactions were totally mixed. i gave it twenty points at least
of the two albums i positively loved and lived last year--OM and erykah--OM offered so many chances to be drawn in. i can see people liking it for an enormous amount of different reasons, which means they could have gotten a lot of 2-5 point votes. badu, on the other hand, i can't see having a point-per-vote of less than 14 or 15. it's one of those records where if you liked it, i can't imagine how you didnt totally immerse yourself in it and have it as one of your top three

xxxxxpost

so is no 13 more rap more r&b or more electrodribble?

13. http://musicology.typepad.com/dialm/2008/04/you-want-postmo.html

(also poor "Pinocchio Story", what a load of balls)
(although there was a moment where I thought it was on the verge of greatness until I realized he'd said "there is no GUCCI I could buy")

i never listened to it, thought it was okay on snl tho

what's weird about 808 is that's the technopop/electro/nuwave vibe is not uncommon in rap, but this sounds WAY more like straight indie electrodribble than any other rap/R&B record i've ever heard. which is, i think, what he was shooting for

so is 'indie electrodribble' in the ilx canon to the point where i'm gonna have to read that thread?

no

you'll only hate yourself if you do