Every huge artist has their "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

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The King Of Limbs may be Radiohead's New Jersey... a huge amount of people were waiting in anticipation for it on the back of In Rainbows and a large percentage of those people were ultimately disappointed. If their next album is shite, then it undoubtedly is The King Of Limbs.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

*kills angel*

da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

hey now, KoL went gold

that poor angle, murdered for nothing

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

much like my speling

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, yeah, but the angel still had to die on principle

da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

xp I guess based on Beck's non-platinum status for several of his albums, he's ineligible for a New Jersey.

billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

the idea was to limit the concept to albums and artists that were actually "huge," so that we could nerd out over stats rather than have dinks debating which Apples In Stereo album was the first to suck

da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

that reminds me, This Timeless Turning was totally Sky Cries Mary's New Jersey

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

no way, everybody at my college radio station was mad excited about Exit At The Axis and I always knew that was poopie and nobody talk about it now, totally their new jersey

da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

isn't Beck kinda huger than whatever weirdo bands you guys are joking about?

billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

"Fugue in D minor" was totally Bach's New Jersey. It was all downhill after that.

billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

Hey now, I am just encouraging what I think is a specifically hilarious fit of pique, no need to get defensive.

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

haha i realize i'm being ridiculous, believe me. but i'm still going to wail on anybody who either can't grasp the concept, can't bother to read the thread, or check wikipedia to verify their hunches about which albums sold how much. if a chart nerd can't police a chart nerd thread then what's the point in being a chart nerd.

da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

chart groupies

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

no i'm like creed, i spurn them on route to the stage and then float above the throng

da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

and this thread is the hotel bar where i wait for 311 to walk by

da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

Were there New Jersey's prior to the '80s?

billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

there was definitely a thread prior to today

da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

oh yes, i see a couple listed now. 95% of these are after the mid 80s

billstevejim, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

well that's partially a factor of poster age and comfort zone mixed in with the context of calling it a "New Jersey"; clearly the phenomenon has existed since people started buying music

far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

also the fact that gauging multiplatinum success is easier after the riaa starting giving out the multi-platinum awards

da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

In 1976, RIAA introduced the platinum certification, first awarded to Johnnie Taylor's single, "Disco Lady", and to the Eagles album, Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975). As music sales increased with the introduction of compact discs, the RIAA created the Multi-Platinum award in 1984. Diamond awards, honoring those artists whose sales of singles or albums reached 10,000,000 copies, were introduced in 1999.

so basically, the only pre-80s albums to have multi-platinum certification are the ones who bother to get it

da croupier, Thursday, 9 May 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

pretty sure yo la tengo's 3x platinum 'summer sun' has the whiff of new jersey, and i'm not talking about hoboken

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 9 May 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

I stand by my theory that New Jerseys depend on a certain way of marketing albums over a long period of time, and effectively only existed between Thriller and MP3s, although outliers can be found.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Is it too early to declare Katy Perry's Prism a New Jersey?

J. Sam, Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link

hüsker dü - candy apple grey, yea?

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

katy perry otm

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

da croupier getting hella salty as this thread ages, i love it

alpine static, Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:09 (ten years ago) link

90's US underground version of this is Jesus Lizard's Down

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:38 (ten years ago) link

Candy Apple Grey for me works.....at least sonically. Real sense that it is Flip Your Wig mk2

Would be easier to say had the latter album been released, as originally planned, on Warners

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:41 (ten years ago) link

remember when Flip Your Wig sold 5 million copies?

relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Friday, 23 May 2014 00:25 (ten years ago) link

lol still

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 00:38 (ten years ago) link

guys "event albums"

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 May 2014 01:23 (ten years ago) link

arcade fire - reflektor

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 01:40 (ten years ago) link

Even if we say Reflektor is big enough as a record, I think it's too much of an "artistic change-up," which may disqualify it from New Jersey status. My read is that the most universally agreed-upon New Jerseys in this thread (like Afterburner), have a "more of the same" feel.

intheblanks, Friday, 23 May 2014 01:49 (ten years ago) link

true
hate to say it but could Animal Collective's Centipede Hz be their New Jersey?

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 02:43 (ten years ago) link

feel like you're maybe trolling the originators of this theory

intheblanks, Friday, 23 May 2014 02:54 (ten years ago) link

ahhh ok, even though i LOVE this record, …. Gaucho by Steely Dan?

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 03:29 (ten years ago) link

wut? they basically broke up after thet album

cock chirea, Friday, 23 May 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link

The Cult - Sonic Temple

cock chirea, Friday, 23 May 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link

last records cant be a new jersey?

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link

i would call a 20 year break up a 'career decline'

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 23 May 2014 03:33 (ten years ago) link

90's US underground version of this is Jesus Lizard's Down

― Master of Treacle, viernes 23 de mayo de 2014 00:38 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

mmmm, Girls Against Boys' House of GVSB maybe?

cock chirea, Friday, 23 May 2014 03:37 (ten years ago) link

Wouldn't it be Freak*on*ica?

DonkeyTeeth, Friday, 23 May 2014 05:12 (ten years ago) link

Actually, you're probably right. Freak*on*ica was the long career decline one.

DonkeyTeeth, Friday, 23 May 2014 05:14 (ten years ago) link

no, Freak*on*ica was a gigantic misfire. New Jersey's are popular-at-the moment records that, on the surface, seem to be continuing the artist's success, but in reality are a mirage of sorts. A New Jersey is a record whose success masks that the bottom has already fallen out. Very often the big, successful singles from a New Jersey disappear from the culture at large.

intheblanks, Friday, 23 May 2014 05:16 (ten years ago) link

Also Freak*on*ica didn't even make the top 100. It's the record where GVSB fell off, but that isn't synonymous with a New Jersey as defined throughout this thread.

intheblanks, Friday, 23 May 2014 05:17 (ten years ago) link

Ha, yes! I figured that out though. Just posted too fast.

DonkeyTeeth, Friday, 23 May 2014 05:36 (ten years ago) link

Freak*on*ica was really awful.

DonkeyTeeth, Friday, 23 May 2014 05:36 (ten years ago) link

totally with you on that, such an embarrassment.

intheblanks, Friday, 23 May 2014 05:37 (ten years ago) link


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