Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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yeah, that's one of the weird things abt collecting 78s; i've become accustomed to hearing and readings things that are totally NOT OKAY TO SAY OUT LOUD.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I can imagine! A lot of art/music would be off limits if that was a barrier though, just gotta take the "sifting through history" approach. I mean, it is completely fascinating, as you well know. As stated, keep sharing this stuff, it's great.

grandavis, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

yeah those puckett tunes are pretty cool. it *is* a weird sound he's getting on the second one -- wonder if (at least part of) its strangeness is a circumstance of the recording technology/condition of the 78 (rather than actual technique from puckett)?

tylerw, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

listening to that youtube video now, i think there might be a bit of overzealous noise reduction going on. the 78 has a much sharper tone.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

http://adhoc.fm/post/chuck-johnson-slow-passing-ghost-town/

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

Really pretty new song by Daniel Bachman and Ryley Walker (with a buddy on steel):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFNKcdSM-Ho&list=UUZOexysDEmbM7VU1Ux1FChw&index=1

More laid back than a lot of Daniel's stuff, more nuance and less steamrolling (though I like his steamrolling action as well). Guess Daniel and Ryley are working stuff up prior to going on tour in Europe.

grandavis, Friday, 10 May 2013 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

That Chuck Johnson vid is pretty great. I like that Chuck does a lot with his fretting hand, a lot of cool little slides and pull-offs/hammer-ons.

grandavis, Friday, 10 May 2013 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

nice, i would take a whole album of songs like that new bachman track.
and yeah the chuck johnson record is highly recommended, kind of darker/more intense than some of the other things of its ilk we've been discussing on this thread.

tylerw, Friday, 10 May 2013 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, Chuck taps into a different vibe for sure, baroque maybe isn't quite the word, but what I have heard does not seem as steeped in country blues/trad American Primitive styles for sure.

I imagine that Daniel is gonna mix things up over the years, judging by this and the other recent collab with Ian McColm, and yeah, I would love more of that kind of thing from him.

grandavis, Friday, 10 May 2013 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

My Garden State will be a cherished record in my collection as soon as I can get it. Just sayin.

Evan, Friday, 10 May 2013 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Psyched that Glenn is coming back to Charlottesville on his next tour. He seemed a little bummed by the turnout last time (which was probably 20 people or so) but hopefully we can get more in this time to see him. This town is lousy with bluegrass/Americana fans, but guys like Glenn and D. Bachman have zero presence with any of those folks, which is too bad in a way. Not enough shredding/hokey vocals I guess.

grandavis, Friday, 10 May 2013 16:03 (thirteen years ago)

Hmm to be realistic I'm surprised he would expect more? Should he? I mean in a perfect world, but...

Evan, Friday, 10 May 2013 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno, seems like he should expect more than 20 people! it is weird though, same deal -- out here in colorado, people go nuts for the lamest bluegrass/folk stuff, but I can't imagine many of the dudes on this thread having a lot of draw.

tylerw, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't get it in regards to the lame bluegrass/folk shit, this town is lousy with it. Not sure what Glenn really expects, and maybe there were less than 20 folks, can't really remember, but it would have been more than 10 (and probably 20 in and out for the night at the very least), but he is not a young guy and I am sure that he would be thrilled if each tour brought a few more folks out than the last.

Hopefully this time it'll get a little more folks out, but it is a fickle town. If there is one local band playing that is somewhat "cool", ALL of the crossover folks that go to interesting shows at all will go to that show over an out of towner a little on the margins (like Glenn), no matter how good. The urge to see people and have a night out tends to trump other factors for folks that aren't a) old b) over any idea of being part of a scene c) really into the particular musician. Sure most towns are like this, I just hate when a great musician comes to town and I can just tell that no one is gonna go see them.

grandavis, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

I guess I have no idea what the fan demographic or whatever there is for this kind of stuff. Wondering if there is an older following of folk/bluegrass fans too?

Evan, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

almost feel like these guys would do better just bypassing the rock club circuit altogether and playing house shows or guitar shops -- there's a guitar shop in my town that has regular folk-type shows and they get 40-50 people usually for local-ish people no one has heard of. they're "free" shows, but generally everyone puts money in a hat as a donation kind of thing.

tylerw, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

i was actually surprised at the size of the place william tyler's playing out here this summer -- not huge, but the same place I saw Lambchop play last year.

tylerw, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know, depending on the band there are plenty of young folks going to folky/bluegrassy/Americana shows here in Charlottesville, it is definitely not just old folks. I think the venues do a decent job here, but the couple that really catered to the "real" country blues/folk/string music fans shut down, and the solid turnout of folks for those venues seem to have stopped coming to shows at all as far as I can tell, though I am historically more a rock/psych/weird improv guy, so do not have a real understanding of how to cater to the potential crossover fans for this stuff.

grandavis, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

William Tyler seems to be getting some crossover/wider interest, which is great. Maybe all the work with Lambchop/Silver Jews has him on people's radar?

grandavis, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

over on twitter, upper mississippi sh@kedown referred to Impossible Truth as the Nevermind of the Takoma scene lol

tylerw, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

Hah, maybe so. Hope it brings some sales and fans to all the other folks doing this stuff too. I have had a bunch of people mention that W. Tyler record that do not bring up any of these other folks though. Trying to push Steve Gunn and Chris Forsyth on them as more gateway fodder, will see if it works.

grandavis, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

Haha. I think it helps that it's on Merge?

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Evan, Friday, 10 May 2013 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

Probably.

grandavis, Friday, 10 May 2013 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

yeah for sure -- merge puts it more into the indie rock category (and that is tyler's background anyway)... still, jones is on thrill jockey which isn't a niche label either.

tylerw, Friday, 10 May 2013 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, Thrill Jockey doing some good work on releasing some of this stuff. Interesting that the Hiss Golden Messenger album has gotten so much press, not that it is too similar to most stuff on this thread (though Nathan Bowles is on the record and Steve Gunn just put out a Record Store Day album with him). It is on a pretty low-profile label and yet it has been reviewed glowingly all over the place, which is cool.

grandavis, Friday, 10 May 2013 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

yeah paradise of bachelors seems to be making some waves -- they're doing that upcoming steve gunn record and a chris forsyth thing this fall. haven't actually been nuts about the hiss golden messenger LP (it's good, just hasn't knocked me out).

tylerw, Friday, 10 May 2013 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I think you have to want to love the lyrics to appreciate the Hiss album, and I just don't care that much about them these days. They help in the balance with a band/musician, but the music is what I am after and while the record is fine it isn't pulling me away from the dozens of other things I wanna listen to on any given day.
Sure is getting a ton of press, which again I hope spills over for all these other folks like Nathan Bowles and Gunn and Forsyth, we'll see. It is interesting that Gunn and Forsyth are both putting stuff out on POB.

grandavis, Friday, 10 May 2013 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

Ordered the Glenn jones record, says it comes with replicas of the fun antique post cards (while supplies last) that he uses for all of his album art.

Evan, Saturday, 11 May 2013 03:19 (thirteen years ago)

hey just in case i haven't posted about it in this thread, I love Fiddlin' Arthur Smith and his Dixieliners. This is one of the ones that hooked me --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDahJf0ki98

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Saturday, 11 May 2013 05:11 (thirteen years ago)

new chuck johnson is lovely can't wait to get the vinyl

jay-z's ansari (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

Anywhere I can listen?

Evan, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

http://threelobed.bandcamp.com/album/crows-in-the-basilica
really is a great record, beautiful sounds from start to finish.

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, pretty cool that Three Lobed lets you stream it on its own site. Cool label, hope the record sells well. Hope Chuck makes the short trip up to Virginia sometime as well.

grandavis, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

they have a two-fer deal on both chuck johnson albums (the new one & the last one) as a bundle for $30, i might do that

jay-z's ansari (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

and this one is out today too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13kYsBVErmI

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

Yes! It is in the mail on the way to my place, that one.

Evan, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, that is exciting. Just found out that Glenn is coming to Virginia so hope to buy this from him directly!

grandavis, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

i wouldn't mind a whole record of glenn jones banjo duets with laura baird, that track is so nice

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah that was really nice! So simple of them to just play the same part yet so effective.

Evan, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

Important to know in music when not to fuck up a good thing. Still trying to learn that lesson myself.

grandavis, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

That's why I never liked to color in my drawings growing up.

Evan, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

Hah, yeah! Had a similar issue with drawing myself.

Also, have listened to that song about 4 times in a row, good one to have on a loop at the end of a work day for sure.

grandavis, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

I went in the complete opposite direction and decided to finally check out the new Iceage LP.

Evan, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

Just received that new Glenn Jones. The art is beautiful in person. I'm so excited for this record.

Evan, Friday, 17 May 2013 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

thanks for the tip on the chuck johnson twofer... ordered!
will need to get the glenn jones when i get back to ny

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 17 May 2013 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

fuck i missed on the twofer offer somehow. oh well.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 17 May 2013 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

al -- it's not on the bandcamp but it's at the three lobed official website. took me a minute to find it, but it's there!

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 17 May 2013 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

gorgeeeeous banjo instro w talking interlude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pMeM51O-2s&list=PL51A0B8F108EEB3BE

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 17 May 2013 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

Damn, is that on a record somewhere?

Evan, Friday, 17 May 2013 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

Whoa, that is awesome! Those harmonics. Never really heard folks use harmonics like that in a banjo tune. Wish it was waaayyy longer.

grandavis, Friday, 17 May 2013 18:40 (thirteen years ago)


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