TOP 10 NOW: \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\shawty got poll poll poll poll poll poll poll (part II: 2008 ALBUMS)/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

Didn't know you liked Danity Kane so much Louis

^^^this is why it's a good idea xposts to Nick B

I wasn't *overly* impressed with the obscurity/eclecticism of 50-21 tbh, when things went weird they did so in quite a rote "hai have some psych-folk and some obscure dance and maybe the MOST high-profile metal released last year" manner

I haven't heard Danity Kane but I'm assuming that he's better than MGMT

lol

ok you're trolling

Bitch, bitch, bitch.

anyone repping for "antivotes" is a point-missing moron who really needs to think about why they're here.

"Anti-Votes" aren't a bad idea, they do it over at SOMB and their lists are pretty okay

a rote "hai have some psych-folk and some obscure dance and maybe the MOST high-profile metal released last year" manner

oh that rote manner

there is a pretty noxious attitude underlying the idea of antivotes so that you can weed out the "lowest common denominator" votes the rest of us cast, LJ. maybe give it a rest.

BTW this is not because i am a MGMT stan or anything

louis - that's what every poll is like, the best records of that year. only the most high profile (/peoples favourite) records make it. if it is the concensus pick to have torche or half man half biscuit or lil wayne, then so be it. these are ilm's favourite records of the year, if you want to see people just shit on things instead of sharing their enthusiasm then i suggest starting a most hated poll or something.

lol lj about danity kane

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/lejospopo/Danity_Kane.jpg

Speaking as someone who hates a lot of shit, this entire idea of antivotes is terrible. I hate it.

ditto

Antivotes?

Phh...

When you can unlisten to an album, then you can have antivotes!

the fucking point of this is to see what the ilx community as a whole was repping in '08, not so some of the most vocally negative ilm regulars can see a top 50 that will make them stop bitching for a whole 10 minutes.

dammit i mean i am used to the many quirks and auto-hates that you guys have but jesus christ.

DK is definitely better than MGMT. Well, they were... R.I.P. DK :(

Is Louis thinking of Danny Kaye?

a moment for my favourite picture from 08 of aubrey from danity kane:

http://gofugyourself.celebuzz.com/2008/10/07/spl54091_003-thumb-420x847.jpg

i think we've all anti-voted louis - suggest ban

I've never seen LJ and The Lex so agreement in before. Don't spoil it for them!

^^better than mgmt and also more ridiculous looking

xp

antivotes (or even just a separate "most hated" list) could work for trax, but with albums it would just be a lot of people voting for things they haven't heard just based on what they know of the artist, and you'd never be able to make them prove otherwise.

Please tell me that isn't a bandana on that dog

numbers 50-21: "omg what are these i have never heard of them you obscurantists waht"

MGMT shows up in spot 20: "dear god how can we destroy the hegemony of this list before it is too late"

So so so so true.

The whole idea of antivotes would just lead to someone lame and inoffensive winning by default.

If you look at the MGMT album thread there aren't really that many boosters compared to Vampire Weekend or even someone like Lindstrom. Not a huge surprise.

Also I am guessing no TVOTR in the poll at all.

'Twas merely a passing whimsy, based on the democratic ideal of being able to snipe at the same big obvious targets that received enough coverage and exposure to get INTO so many peoples' ears and lists. In practice it probably wouldn't work out so well. But, harsh as it may sound, I think negative sentiments on music should be heeded as much as positive ones. This does not mean that I am looking to hate music before I hear it, it just means that I've been let down too often. Like I say, though, a bit of whimsy to create debate, and I don't expect it to be seriously adopted.

Please tell me that isn't a bandana on that dog

aubrey is wearing a bandanna, but i think the dog is wearing a...bejewelled mini-bonnet of sorts?

who needs a Most Hated thread for people to hate on things? isn't that what this and the singles threads are already?

Really, the problem here isn't the concept of the antivote (which is, you have to admit, completely stupid; why bother voting, then?), it's the sneering "anyone who likes halfway-mainstream music is a mindless sheep whose voice doesn't deserve to be heard" attitude that drives its suggestion that revolts me.

btw I think most people should be drowned at birth

blueski is missing all the hate :(

also, lol: http://www.dankanesingers.org/

not hating, but streaming this MGMT album and outside the singles it's pretty bad.

The whole idea of antivotes would just lead to someone lame and inoffensive winning by default.

i don't agree -- if anything it would greatly help Erykah Badu's chances of winning over, say, anything really corny indie or super popular, which would be awesome. but it's still a stupid way to skew the results.

some talk about how much droney/ambient music there actually is on this list. seems to me that the list leans pretty heavily in that direction:

50) Boris - Smile (drone/ambient moments, but that's mostly gone from their sound at this point)
48) School Of Seven Bells - Alpinisms (some drone/ambient influences, in an indie-pop context)
43) Alex Moulton - Exodus (would seem ambient-ish to folks who don't listen to a lot of dance music)
40) Paavoharju - Laulu Laakson Kukista (substantial drone & ambient elements)
38) D. Lissvik - 7 Trx + Intermission (faint ambient haze about the whole thing)
37) Gas - Nah und Fern (AMBIENT DRONEZ)
33) Earth - The Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull (ambient drones (lowercase), with lots of filigree)
30) Quiet Village - Silent Movie (ambient in the sense that film soundtracks often are)
29) Lau Nau - Nukkuu (substantial drone & ambient elements)
28) Fennesz - Black Sea (AMBIENT DRONEZ)
24) Grouper - Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill (substantial drone & ambient elements)
21) Deerhunter - Microcastle (some drone/ambient influences, in an indie-pop context)

for comparison's sake, there's a bit less electrodribble:

48) School Of Seven Bells - Alpinisms (indie dream-pop, with lots electronic elements)
47) Sébastien Tellier - Sexuality (electronic pop with indie appeal & tendencies)
45) Girl Talk - Feed The Animals (ELECTRODRIBBLE)
36) Glass Candy - B/E/A/T/B/O/X (ELECTRODRIBBLE)
34) Max Tundra - Parallax Error Beheads You (ELECTRODRIBBLE)
31) El Guincho - Alegranza (ELECTRODRIBBLE)
30) Quiet Village - Silent Movie (electrodribble (lowercase))
23) Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid (mainstream indie-pop with lots of electronic elements)
22) Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles (ELECTRODRIBBLE)
20) MGMT - Oracular Spectacular (ELECTRODRIBBLE)

indie, old styles & new, both US and & UK varieties, still seems to d-d-d-dominate:

49) Arthur Russell - Love Is Overtaking Me (proto-indie (unfair, but there you go))
48) School Of Seven Bells - Alpinisms (indie dream-pop)
46) Fall, The - Imperial Wax Solvent (it's the fall: indie as much as it is anything else)
45) Girl Talk - Feed The Animals (electrodribble)
44) Jay Reatard - Matador Singles 08 (INDIE ROCK)
42) Stephen Malkmus and Jicks - Real Emotional Trash (INDIE ROCK)
40) Paavoharju - Laulu Laakson Kukista (folky droney indie crossover)
39) Hold Steady, The - Stay Positive (INDIE ROCK)
36) Glass Candy - B/E/A/T/B/O/X (electrodribble)
35) Half Man Half Biscuit - CSI: Ambleside (INDIE)
34) Max Tundra - Parallax Error Beheads You (electrodribble)
31) El Guincho - Alegranza (electrodribble)
30) Quiet Village - Silent Movie (electrodribble)
29) Lau Nau - Nukkuu (folky droney indie crossover)
25) Los Campesinos! - Hold On Now, Youngster (indie, writ large)
24) Grouper - Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill (folky droney indie crossover)
23) Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid (m.o.rindie)
22) Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles (electrodribble)
21) Deerhunter - Microcastle (INDIE)
20) MGMT - Oracular Spectacular (electrodribble)

listening to MGMT > talking about MGMT

unless everyone did an anti-vote to annoy the lex as he repped it constantly

x-post

xpost to some dude -- why would that be awesome?

You're all fine with this until all the lurkers "antivote" a beloved ILM golden cow (Badu) out of the Top 10.

I'm still amazed to see Crystal Castles on here; I thought everyone hated them now!

love the MGMT, record, though yeah - mostly for the (spectacular) singles. plus crystal castles too

I got no problem with halfway-mainstream or even mainstream music per se! Just with stuff that's hyped to the stars at the expense of better stuff when I think it has no right to be. I said I wouldn't pursue this line of hatred this year, and now I have, and I feel bad. I'll stop. Viva whatever music you like. MGMT bring me out in hives, though.

contenderizer, thank you for breaking down the list categorically, it was all greek to me.

call all destroyer -- it would be awesome because New Amerykah is awesome, duh.

mgmt wasn't an earth-shattering album, the singles were good, it was generally popular, it only polled at 20, it's friday evening, the weekend's coming, let's relax.

having said that i'd be mad if ne-yo were at 20 ;-)

but this is not to find out which album was most awesome

"god i just HATE it when people like popular things i'm super heavily invested in hating. HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT!"

so the only three albums so far which don't fit into contenderizer's A+ taxonomy are solange, ne-yo and torche.

Hype happens. Sometimes it works it works for you (The Rapture), sometimes it doesn't (The Strokes). Having a stroke over it won't actually change anything.

(examples relate to me)

loved the summary contenderizer