I actually dont like Totally Wired but 2-10 is amazingly unfuckwithable. Great job ILM!
― I'm sorry I said anything (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
Here's my ballot. 17 of the 20 placed. Can't believe I was the only one to vote for Backdrop, that song is a fucking monster.
1.New Puritan2.Tempo House3.Rowche Rumble4.Totally Wired5.Deer Park6.Backdrop7.Hip Priest8.Gut of the Quantifier9.No Bulbs10.The Impression of J.Temperance11.Lie Dream of a Casino Soul12.Leave the Capitol13.Wings14.Container Drivers15.Slates, Slags, etc.16.Eat Y'Self Fitter17.Spectre vs. Rector18.Wrong Place, Right Time19.The Man Whose Head Expanded20.Hard Life in the County
― herr doktor (askance johnson), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
Gotta admit I'm surprised the classical did so well. While I can ignore the first lines when playing Hex, it does kind of damper its click-pick status in my book
― da croupier, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
then again I've got "Jew on a motorbike" on my ballot so don't take that to be too pious a stance
― da croupier, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
1. Hip Priest2. Garden3. Cruiser's Creek4. Tempo House5. The Classical6. Leave The Capitol7. Paint Work8. 2x49. Middle Mass10. I Feel Voxish11. Bury Pts. 1 & 312. I am Damo Suzuki13. Bug Day14. Pat Trip Dispenser15. Mark'll Sink Us16. He Pep!17. Dr. Faustus18. Totally Wired19. Free Range20. L.A.
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
1. Winter2. Mere Pseud Mag Ed3. Stepping Out4. Life Just Bounces5. Hey! Student6. I Feel Voxish7. How I Wrote Elastic Man8. Totally Wired9. Free Range10. Big New Prinz11. Paint-Work12. Frenz13. Words Of Expectation14. The Birmingham School Of Business School15. Oh! Brother16. Stay Away (Old White Train)17. Pay Your Rates18. Theme From Sparta FC19. Touch Sensitive20. Garden
― da croupier, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
Wings was my #1 and it looks like it received the most #1 votes. I almost left Totally Wired off my ballot but once I remembered, I placed it at 10. Can't believe No Xmas for John Quays did not place in the top 50. I thought it was more well-liked around here.
1. Wings2. Jawbone and The Air Rifle3. The Classical4. Fortress/Deer Park5. Lie Dream of a Casino Soul6. Gut of The Quantifier7. Mere Pseud Mag. Ed. 8. No Xmas for John Quays9. Gross Chapel/British Grenadiers10. Totally Wired11. Marquis Cha-Cha12. Slates, Slags, Etc.13. I'm into C.B.!14. Room to Live15. Big New Prinz16. Paintwork17. Tempo House18. 2 * 419. Clear Off! 20. Cab it Up!
― righteousmaelstrom, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
righteousmaelstrom u did not vote for the song from which yr dn derives!
― brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
iirc
I think the only thing in this poll that surprised me was Wings placing above Voxish, Garden and (way above) Tempo House. But I've changed opinions about the PBL tracks a lot over the years, so maybe that'll be the next one...
― dlp9001, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
lol I know. I actually pulled it from the live stage rant at the end of Putta Block.
― righteousmaelstrom, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
#1 The N.W.R.A.WinterWingsDeer ParkSlang KingEat Y'self FitterJawbone and the Air-RifleWhat You NeedThe ClassicalTotally WiredLay of the LandThe Container DriversPaint WorkWho Makes the Nazis?Fit and Working AgainPsykick DancehallGardenMarquis Cha-ChaKicker ConspiracyHow I Wrote 'Elastic Man'
i threw my ballot together without thinking too much and could easily swap half these tracks for others. considering the showing for all the other slates tracks i thought fit and working again was a lock for the top 10. kicker conspiracy is great but i think being about football affects its reception - a friend of mine hates it for this reason.
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
My ballot. I only did songs.
01 The Classical02 Australians in Europe03 U.S. 80's-90's04 Totally Wired05 Lie-Dream Of A Casino Soul06 No Bulbs07 Twister08 Guest Informant09 Gut of the Quantifier10 Telephone Thing11 Futures & Pasts12 Rowche Rumble13 British People In Hot Weather14 Lucifer Over Lancashire15 The Man Whose Head Expanded16 Paint Work17 Fiery Jack18 Bournemouth Runner19 Hip Priest20 Kimble
Well done to the other Australians in Europe voter (I know. It's shooting stereotypical fish-in-a-barrel, but it still rocks).
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
Aus in Europe has been stuck in my head for like a week! I maybe shd have voted for it. Several b sides of that era I regret not including. Mark'll Sink Us... Bormann...
― brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
EuuuRUP! UP! UP-UP! UP!
― brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
The Annotated Fall
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
Oh yay hurray, that v cool site has saved me the task of typing in the awesome ad-lib portion of the live in Iceland version of The Classical:
On live versions, variant lyrics often would appear at this point. One more or less typical example (from Austurbaejarbio, recorded in 1982): "Dear customer, prior to delivery, this fine Ford Kawasaki Excel Escort was given a thorough inspection by Fred here in the white coat...please note, um, the, um, coin-spots on the dashboard...please note the fuel exhaustion limit reader...please note the elephant house odor of the dashboard, and most importantly the axels and the hubs which are immune to snow, extreme heat, rain, hailstones, sleet, and HAIL! The Classical!"
Not evoked by transcription is the amazing phrasing but it's something like
PLEASE NOTE!the FUEL...EXHAUSTION...LIMIT...READER...PLEASE NOTE!the elephant...HOUSE!odor...
That same live album has a great variant on Look, Know:
HEWas the firstTo wearan idioticJACKETin the club...
― brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
Container Drivers and I'm Into CB were robbed
― Hinklepicker, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
This Poll in Number One in my list of Polls by the way.
― Hinklepicker, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
Also I think this is the type of band and catalog that you could do one of these every six months and come up with quite a different result. Can we do that?
― Hinklepicker, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
Jeff W! 'Twas I. This was my somewhat unreconstructed response to hearing it for the first time ever:
Australians In Europe - Holy hell, so catchy! And there's a subtle chord-change. This IS the poppy post-Bend Sinister burbling and it's AWESOME. And wow, that vocal echo thing! Playing with content AND form here. I'd not expected something quite so righteously joyful! It's still heavy; the bass and drums ensure that. But it's also a romp, a blast, perhaps the blinding chords of the Ketamine Sun shining onto our damned forms. I can't quite explain how bizarre this song's alchemy is. OH SHIT! The power-chord middle section!!! What's happened to The Fall?! This is completely insane! And then the guitar builds beneath, the bass changes, and MES comes back in...it's maybe one of my favourite 5 Fall moments so far? Hahahahaha, this band NEVER fails to amaze me. WOW. This has rapidly become one of the best pop songs I've ever had the privilege to hear. And there's still over a minute left!!! It's all going a bit Complicated Game. I ain't complaining. FUCK. I have no more rational argument about this. Why isn't it automatically mentioned every time the Peel Sessions are brought up? Beautiful solo during the fade-out too. YES
Anyway, here's my ballot. Hurricane Edward was fucking ROBBED my friends! Go on, give it another listen, it's the end of time
Bonkers In PhoenixHurricane EdwardWinter Weather Report 2Hip PriestGardenGross Chapel - British GrenadiersNew Puritan Australians In Europe 4 1/2 InchOl' GangBlindness Octo Realm/Ketamine SunThe Crying MarshallTwo LibransPaintworkHexen Definitive/Strife Knot Midwatch 195350 Year-Old ManEat Y'Self Fitter
I tend to go for the dare I say 'more avant-garde' sort of Fall song - things like Hit The North and Totally Wired may reach me eventually - certainly I'm not going to make a distinction between 'interesting Fall' and 'boring Fall' because it's all part of the same creative process, really
REALLY REGRET NOT VOTING FOR:
Mexico Wax SolventThe Birmingham School Of Business SchoolAntidotes
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
i forgot to vote for "autralians", stupid considering i made room for most every other would-be pop hit
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
it does look like a whopping great pop anomaly in my ballot doesn't it. but it's an unbelievably intense, bizarre and plain fucken rocknroll pop song, it's a righteous pop maelstrom
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
imago do you not fuck with Guest Informant, the other throat-shaker from that clutch of B sides?
― Moron Tabernacle Chior (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for turning me onto that track, Aus in Eur, am listening now. It's great
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
would have to *gulp* hear...it...again? xp
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
btw you can add virtually every Levitate and Unutterable track I didn't vote for to the Regret list, especially Spencer Must Die, Levitate, Dr Buck's Letter, Devolute and Cyber Insekt
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
Had no time to comment
1 Wings2 Kurious Oranj3 Fortress/Deer Park4 Leave the Capitol5 Slates, Slags, Etc6 The Classical7 Lie Dream of A Casino Soul8 Hey! Luciani9 Look, Know10 English Scheme11 Your Heart Out12 Jawbone and the Air Rifle13 Blood outta stone14 C'n'C Mithering15 US 80s-90S16 The man whose head expanded17 Athlete Cured18 Middle Mass19 Who makes the nazis20 Xmas with Simon
― woof, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
Could be v different, in fact looking now am surprised at some of my low votes.
― woof, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
20 Xmas with Simon
you rule
― Moron Tabernacle Chior (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
re: levitate, I wanted to vote for both Eve and Hurricane Ed, but in the end only Eve made the cut, mostly for the breathtaking transition to the hallucinatory 'if only the shards. could relocate. back. in place.' moment
― Moron Tabernacle Chior (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
Feeling da croupier's ballot for "Old White Train" and especially, uh, "Words of Expectation."
1 Words Of Expectation2 Hotel Bloedel3 Gut Of The Quantifier4 I Feel Voxish5 Job Search6 And This Day7 Leave The Capitol8 Impression Of J. Temperance9 Weather Report 210 Room To Live11 Y.F.O.C. - Slippy Floor12 Prole Art Threat13 New Puritan14 Dr. Bucks' Letter15 Paint-Work 16 City Hobgoblins17 Big New Prinz18 Service19 Blindness20 Spinetrak
― bentelec, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
Really, though, that whole long list just gives me a nice warm feeling inside. Favorite discoveries of poll research: "Bremen Nacht" and "4 1/2 Inch."
Updated Spotify link (w/ correct "Deer Park" placing) is here.
― bentelec, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
1. Bremen Nacht2. Leave the Capitol3. Frightened4. Cruiser’s Creek 5. Hip Priest6. Sing!Harpy7. Container Drivers8. New Face In Hell9. Repetition10. Shift-Work11. Don’t Call Me Darling12. Feeling Numb13. Telephone Thing14. Ten Houses of Eve15. Psykick Dancehall16. No Bulbs17. Totally wired18. Lost In Music19. Eat Y’Self Fitter20. 50 year old man
REGRET NOT VOTING FOR:
ContraflowIt’s a Curse
― A bee in her hair. (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for the Spotify link.
I think you have two of the tracks as 'local' i.e. on your laptop/whatever. (Paintwork and Cruisers Creek), which means 'we' can't access them.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
Only 4 of these ended up in the top 20. Either I have really dopey taste in Fall songs or, as Hincklepicker suggested, this poll would come out vastly different every few months (or maybe both).Looking over all the other votes, I could make a few completely different top 20s that I'd still like more than most other bands' music.Whatta group!
1 Slates, Slages, Etc2 New Big Prinz3 Container Drivers4 Frenz5 Hit The North6 Bill Is Dead7 Bremen Nacht Alternative8 Vixen9 CnC Hassle Schmuck10 The NWRA11 Telephone Thing12 Paint Work13 Glam Racket14 Kurious Oranj15 The Chislers16 Can Can Summer17 Touch Sensitive18 Victoria19 Eat Yrself Fitter20 Sparta 2XX
― mr.raffles, Thursday, 2 May 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks, fixed it!
Looking over all the other votes, I could make a few completely different top 20s that I'd still like more than most other bands' music.Whatta group!
OTM
― bentelec, Thursday, 2 May 2013 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
me too
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 May 2013 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
Everybody needs to give a good (re-)listen to "Before The Moon Falls":
01 Wings02 Before The Moon Falls03 Winter04 The Man Whose Head Expanded05 Take An Older Lover06 Fantastic Life07 Various TImes08 Leave The Capitol09 New Puritans10 C'n'C-S Mithering11 Gut Of The Quantifier12 Hip Priest13 Sparta FC14 No Bulbs15 Bill Is Dead16 Who Makes The Nazis17 Paintwork18 Spinetrak19 I'm Into C.B.!20 Totally Wired
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Thursday, 2 May 2013 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
These are my selections wot didn't make it:
7. It's The New Thing11. Hexen Definitive/Strife Knot17. Flat of Angles18. I Am Damo Suzuki19. Disney's Dream Debased20. Ludd Gang
Some not that far out of contention, I see. But I'm quite alone with my "It's the New Thing" luv.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 May 2013 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
I did this:
01. Smile02. City Hobgoblins03. Athlete Cured04. Guest Informant05. Gut of the Quantifier06. Lay of the Land07. 2x408. I Feel Voxish09. Bremen Nacht (LP version)10. Totally Wired11. Frightened12. The Steak Place13. Hexen Definitive/Strife Knot14. The Classical15. The Man Whose Head Expanded16. New Face In Hell17. I Am Damo Suzuki18. Shoulder Pads #1B19. Riddler!20. Bill Is Dead
..but really agonized over some of the tracks I left off.
― Kent Burt, Thursday, 2 May 2013 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
Also, NO ONE else voted for Shoulder Pads?!? What is wrong with you people etc.?
― Kent Burt, Thursday, 2 May 2013 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
i know, i wrestled w myself over that one. since i tried to skew pop, i should have made room. it really is a favorite. hey! luciani too. tbh, i cruelly shortchanged bend sinister/domesday payoff, my real first fall LP.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 May 2013 01:34 (eleven years ago) link
New Face in HellHow I Wrote 'Elastic Man'Rowche RumbleLeave the CapitolFlat of AnglesPsykick DancehallLAAn Older Lover etc.Container DriversJawbone and the Air-RifleLie Dream Of a Casino SoulBonkers in Phoenix4 1/2 InchBefore the Moon FallsIcelandWings Fiery JackHurricane EdwardWinterKicker Conspiracy
― I'm sorry I said anything (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 2 May 2013 05:17 (eleven years ago) link
Total points by year:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/olem/ilx_The_Fall_points_by_year_zps006e9f47.png
Dates generally assigned by first appearance of studio version on album or single, or of live album release when no studio version exists. Exceptions/notes:-- "Blindness", "Job Search": 2004 Peel session broadcast date used.-- "Stepping Out": Taken as the 1978 Live at the Electric Circus track.-- "Session Musician": Date of live recording (1981) used, rather than 2005 live album release.-- "Antidotes": As the Peel session is specified, assigned to 1998 (date of broadcast) rather than 1999 (when it appeared on The Marshall Suite).-- "Hot Cake": Taken as the 2010 album track, as the 2009 single track has a "Part 2" in the title.
― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 2 May 2013 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
That's pretty far from SD
― Mark G, Thursday, 2 May 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
"Container Drivers" and "Dr Faustus" also twice in list, the former should thus be pushed up to #21 if I calculate correctly.
― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 2 May 2013 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
Also "2 x 4".
Number of tracks per year:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/olem/ilx_The_Fall_count_by_year_zps5538bde3.png
Average score of each track by year:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/olem/ilx_The_Fall_avg_by_year_zps232c2459.png
― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 2 May 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
where the hell is fizzles??
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Thursday, 2 May 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link