Oasis - Classic or Dud?

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1994-1996 = classic on almost every level even if the second album was rubbish. I'm planning on writing summat about them soon. Oasis were NEVER a fucking indie band. Come the fuck on.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I disagree with the sentiment that indie isn't a style of music. It is, or at least, it has become one. Pavement, Superchunk, etc. have a sort of chipper guitar sound that has become classified as "indie." This has been my experience with reading about such music. I don't consider Black Flag, The Gossip, or the Drive-By Truckers "indie rock." I've never seen it as a cut-and-dry label issue.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

(Hi Chuck!)

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Hi Jeanne!!!!

― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

They were indie in the UK, not indie in the US.

Neither classic nor dud. They got some good suff and some real rubbish.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with the fence-sitter.

― LondonLee (LondonLee), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Liam Gallagher was weaned on broken digestives and then married Patsy Kensit. Come the fuck on.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The only song I've heard is "Morning Glory" and I think it's rather nice.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 23 January 2004 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

indie as music, not lifestyle - 'Supersonic' and 'Columbia' in particular had an indieish vibe although the guitar was a bit too heavy-rock sounding hence the confusion and dilution of indie once Britpop became a popular term.

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Some of the stuff w/the first drummer, I still kind of like, because it rocks a bit. Other stuff I really find quite horrible. To me they represent an abject surrender by "rock music" in the face of "club music". They make me feel a bit sad.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

1st album was great, 2nd album was good but waaay overrated and definitely not a classic, after that, it's strictly the occasional brilliant single.

Despite the short period of excellence, I've got to go "classic" because they were just SO HUGE from 1994-1996. That's a three year chunk of British music history that has to be viewed in the context of what Oasis were doing/saying/playing at the time, and that sort of dominance is rare in music.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I was quite taken by the early singles and parts of the first album.

Then pretty dismayed to find that behind the sullen sneer they were the sort of boorish macho dullards I was crossing the street to avoid on my way home in Liverpool every night.

Classic for "Acquiesce"; Dud for most of the rest; Super-Dud for their contribution to "lad culture" and Beatles necrophilia.

― Snnap Dragon (snnap dragon), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't see how the fact that indie means something different in america has any bearing on the fact that oasis are a british indie band...
as for classic or dud,they had their moments...
be here now is the worst thing ever though

― robin (robin), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Smashmouth and Third Eye Blind didn't wear parkas. Oasis did.

There was a week in whatever year it came out that I thought Don't Look Back In Anger was the greatest song ever. Then I didn't. Now, I still have a soft spot for it, and a fair few other bits of theirs (Live Forever in particular). Plus Noel Gallagher usually seems to give very entertaining interviews, and does the whole personality crisis schtick (in his case usually manifested as "that last stuff we did was shit, but this is us back on form") a billion times better than Robbie fucking Williams.

Little By Little is very probably one of my least favourite songs ever, though, and lots of their stuff is just very dull. Some Might Say... dear god, no. So, yeah, neither classic nor dud, just somewhere in between.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I never considered Oasis a necessarily bad band, but they were certainly never worthy of the praise and success they entertained. I can't imagine what the UK saw in them.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

if it helps i had a chat with the bassist andy bell last weekend and we discussed kraut-rock, obscure west coast psychedelia and world of twist and he assured me - that - if i were to go out and spend cashmoney on the new one it will be worth it. its ace from all accounts i've heard.

― dr doom, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)

definitely maybe - is the definite for me. i liked 'morning glory'. i like the cover versions (cat power, ryan adams, mike flowers pop) more than the original wonderwall. third album - nah - don't do coke rock unless its fleetwood mac. fourth album was a wash out though i think little james is a classic. didnt buy fifth album. might d/l sixth album.

― dr doom, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Everybody's right! Every single last one of us!

How exactly were they "huge" (outside of England, I mean)? In the US, as I've written on other threads, they were just another okay band -- about as important as Third Eye Blind or Smashmouth or somebody.
-- chuck (cedd...), January 23rd, 2004.

They are still huge in Mexico, as far as I could tell from last year. Must be the Anglophilia!

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Wot 'bout the Masterplan? What's everybody's take on dat one? Some of the b-sides I find to be incredible, but I haven't listened to much of it.

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah they are still huge. so huge when andy asked me to send him a mix cd - he wanted me to send it too their management. ha ha ha! i felt like tutti on facts of life when she made the tito paper mache head. i don't think i'm going to do send it on. ha ha.

― dr doome, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you laugh like that in real life?

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i know what happened to tutti's paper mache head!!

― dr doom, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Oasis though the `scope:

The tunes - Inoffensive, if not entirely unoriginal. And overrated.
The lyrics - Mostly shit.
The image (if you care about that sort've thing) - Utterly boring.
"Personality" - Apart from the brothers incomprehensibly berating each other all the time (and that, too, got dull), the band has zero in the personality department....nicknames like "Bonehead" notwithstanding.
Stage presence - Once again, apart from Liam acting like an ass, null & void.
Album cover art - Yawnsome.
Edge - Oft-touted, rarely displayed.
Groove - Non-existant.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:46 (twenty-two years ago)

disagree alex. liam's silent thug-lite routine is quite good.

― doom, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

For Definitely Maybe, half of What's The Story and The Masterplan, classic. For most of the rest and the incredibly boring tabloid shenannigans, dud.

So a score draw for me.

― Chris Jones (Crackity Jones), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Biscuits. Patsy Kensit.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

first 2 albums are classic.
3rd album was good kinda
4th album not so good
5th album is the king of not so goodery
and that pretty much sums it up for me

― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

but i'm gonna say classic cause i like the first 2 albums

― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah part of me wishes that they went away after the first - imagine the cult-classic status of the album!! if that happened!!!

when they opened up for neil young - and liam did 'morning glory' - that moment sold me on oasis as a live act.

― dr doome, Friday, 23 January 2004 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

yes me too it touched me in ways my step dad couldn't......i have no idea what your talking about by the way

― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

hooray!

― doomies, Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Definition of DUD.

― Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Saturday, 24 January 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Tico Tico, was it you or Alex who in Frank's APA said that in the future people would hate "Definitely Maybe" the same way we know hate Pink Floyd's "The Wall"? Can you explain what was meant by these comments?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 25 January 2004 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i rather liked the Britpop thing UNTIL i saw Oasis live at Knebworth (between Morning Glory and Be Here Now). seeing them live, supported by Ocean Colour Scene and the Manic Street Preaches killed guitar music for me, for about 5 years.

nuff said.

― searchanddelete, Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

It wasn't me. I love The Wall.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Who the fuck hates The Wall? That's, like, the best-produced album ever!!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

the U2 of indie.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

it would have been Embra Alex - Alex in NYC was never in Frank's APA.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't even know what Frank's APA is.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 26 January 2004 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

'Who the fuck hates The Wall?'

Me. Bag of Shite.

― pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

And it doesn't surprise me in the least that it's one of Noel's favourite albums. As the Ned-meister would say, 'So much is suddenly clear'.

― pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

*bows*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 January 2004 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

"Definitely Maybe" is a great little rock album, tight and focused.
"Whats the Story Morning Glory" is full of filler and overproduced.

Best thing they ever did : "Some Might Say" (UK cd single) - the title track, "Acquiesce", "Talk Tonight" (Noel's best acoustic thingy) and "Headshrinker". Perfect.

Everything after Morning Glory is poo, frankly...

― David Nolan (David N.), Monday, 26 January 2004 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Best thing they ever did : "Some Might Say" (UK cd single)

I agree hands down. Not one step misplaced on that one.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 January 2004 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

It might have been both of us DV. If it was Definitely Maybe then I'm not sure what we meant. If it was What's The Story then it was probably just a really crapulent album that everybody at the time was buying.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 26 January 2004 10:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, the second album would have been better if they didn't have to pull the Stevie Wonder rip off track a week before release, stuck on the other 3 Some Might Say cd single tracks and left off a couple of the crap ones like She's Electric. It would have been ideal for them then to have broken up in 96.

― David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing is, looking back on 1996 in particular, it seems amazing now to think of quite how HUGE they were. I mean, they dominated everything like no other UK band has done since - they were on the front pages of the tabloids pretty much once a week (alternating with Di and Gazza, obviously) - now I find myself forgetting they're even still around.

Definitely Maybe had some good songs on it, but I'm still coming down on the side of dud. Never saw what was supposed to be so great about Liam's voice.

Classic if only for the interviews, mind.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

does anyone else think 'Songbird' is ALRIGHT?

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I could probably fill one side of a C60 with Oasis songs I liked. Their offensiveness as a band was completely disproportionately small compared to the stuff they inspired. Since 2000 I've found ignoring them to be far easier than people are making out; I can't imagine *any* of my friends saying, "Ooh, I wonder what the new Oasis album is going to sound like."

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

a friend of mine bought a post Be Here Now Wasis album because someone on ILX said it was good. He blames me for this mistake.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

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Has anyone seen them on the US part of the tour?

― Bee OK, Tuesday, 9 September 2025 23:34 (nine months ago)

Seems like half my FB friends did.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 September 2025 23:38 (nine months ago)

Yep. Phenomenal

― Davey D, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 05:31 (nine months ago)

The fans I know who have gone have loved it, but I saw one guy who went to a UK show and a US show say the enthusiasm from the audience was definitely greater at the UK show.

― birdistheword, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 05:39 (nine months ago)

I did, much bigger Blur fan, enjoyed it a lot and was happy they used some of the big ticket price for cool graphics since we couldn’t see the band. All in all I would not pay $300 again though. Except for Blur even if a worse show :D

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 11 September 2025 20:38 (nine months ago)

(I might be clouded by the fact I actually paid $600 for two tickets to my casual fan husband would go 🤣)

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 11 September 2025 20:39 (nine months ago)

Was at Batnes & Noble in the mall today checking out the magazines... saw no less than six different publications devoted to Oasis.

― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 11 September 2025 22:28 (nine months ago)

I would have loved to have gone but nah. I have a really good expensive Gallagher brothers type haircut though.

― brimstead, Friday, 12 September 2025 01:33 (nine months ago)

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