Great EP except for the Cher cover which I did not know was influential as much as prescient.
― brimstead, Sunday, 28 April 2013 23:31 (thirteen years ago)
The daughter cover is for shame, FOR SHAME.
― Moka, Monday, 29 April 2013 04:59 (thirteen years ago)
she's my daughter
― buzza, Monday, 29 April 2013 06:01 (thirteen years ago)
she's all our daughters
― kelpolaris, Monday, 29 April 2013 07:32 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlhRQ-rj5ew
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 April 2013 09:12 (thirteen years ago)
If anything Travis's cover of Britney was the high profile flashpoint.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 April 2013 12:25 (thirteen years ago)
I think there's thread on that somewhere? iirc the ur-text was pinpointed to Coltrane's My Favourite Things cover.
― give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Monday, 29 April 2013 12:27 (thirteen years ago)
FACT, Mixmag, The Clash, etc all tweeting praise for that terrible Daughter cover ffs
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 29 April 2013 12:37 (thirteen years ago)
interesting to see that the posters promoting the single (which have replaced posters promoting the album) don't mention Pharrell.
― mizzell, Monday, 29 April 2013 12:38 (thirteen years ago)
And now a reggae cover:http://www.puna.nl/2013/04/26/video-postmen-get-lucky-daft-punk-giel3fm/
― MarkoP, Monday, 29 April 2013 12:44 (thirteen years ago)
jazz musicians were doing takes on pop hits well before that. for this specific kind of rock very serious take on contemporary pop hit i'm thinking vanilla fudge is patient zero. for indie variation (and specifically the post-eggers new sincerity indie variation which eliminates replacements, ciccone youth, pavement, etc) maybe macha/bedhead is the inciting incident but it seems like even that has always been around in some form or another, it was just such an easy way to get on a college radio station playlist.
anyhow heard 'get lucky' out saturday night, loud cheer from club full of kids as soon as it started, numerous sorority girls loudly singing along, already knowing every word. sounds GREAT on a big system btw.
― balls, Monday, 29 April 2013 12:45 (thirteen years ago)
I love the way this thread has turned into middle-aged men analysing how kids react to the song: "the experience is working, the nubile subects react positively to this DISCO creation..."
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 29 April 2013 13:05 (thirteen years ago)
Afghan Whigs' Uptown Avondale got loads of praise for being obviously bathed in pure love, so the ironic cover must've been a big thing circa 1992.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:11 (thirteen years ago)
I don't think covering Motown is really what we're talking about here, especially given the Afghan Whigs presumably didn't cover those songs in a milquetoast sensitive indie wastrel way.
― Matt DC, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:13 (thirteen years ago)
I've read about the Replacements' cover of Kiss's "Black Diamond" as being a significant one in the sense of a knowing "we are this kind of band covering that kind of band."
― jaymc, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:17 (thirteen years ago)
Sid Vicious did My Way in the 70s.
― how's life, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:20 (thirteen years ago)
Gah, wish I had gone back and read the whole convo and not posted that.
― how's life, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:22 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE9IchvpOPk
Milow's international breakthrough came with the release of the single "Ayo Technology", a song originally written and recorded by 50 Cent, Justin Timberlake and Timbaland, from the album Milow. The single peaked at number one in The Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, Belgium, peaked at number two in Germany, Spain, Austria, and peaked in the top ten in France, Italy and Finland. The song was a huge commercial success, receiving a platinum certification in Germany, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria, Denmark and gold certification in Spain and The Netherlands.
― Euler, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:27 (thirteen years ago)
I think that Travis on Britney Spears is a slightly different though linked phenomenon, in that it never really rose above its own look-at-me status (it feels like an acoustic duo covering hits at the pub).
The plaintive indie cover which liberates the melancholy heart from the shiny cage of the pop song is drawing from, like, Susanna and the Magical Orchestra as much as it is from the lol-irony tradition.
The "Believe" cover is poised between these two paths.
Has there been a plaintive indie cover of Fairground Attraction's "It's Got To Be Perfect", I wonder.
― Tim F, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:34 (thirteen years ago)
As Tim pointed out on another thread, Frente's Bizarre Love Triangle was way ahead of the curve here, but more in a Susanna way than Travisesque lols. Radio 1's Live Lounge (source of the Daughter cover) is responsible for turning it into a longrunning trend. Who can forget Razorlight's Hey Ya! or Snow Patrol's Crazy in Love? I wish I could.
The reverse, ie pop acts covering indie, is often better, eg Amy Winehouse's Valerie or Sugababes covering Hard-Fi.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 29 April 2013 13:44 (thirteen years ago)
The Beatles 'Please Mr Postman' vs Stevie Wonder 'We Can Work It Out'
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:48 (thirteen years ago)
true, but the reverse also tends to demonstrate how superior the pop acts' own material is
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― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 13:48 (thirteen years ago)
see also britney's "i can't get no satisfaction"
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 29 April 2013 13:49 (thirteen years ago)
haha well 'i can't get no satisfcation' is not exactly an indie song
― 乒乓, Monday, 29 April 2013 13:50 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll0SslHsZ6I
I really want to blame the Lemonheads for this phenomenon, even though the closest thing that they get to the exact formula is probably their awful 2002 version of Xtina's 'Beautiful' which was well after 'Believe'. It definitely feels like the overly sincere cover version has been something that Dando was working on from pretty early on in their career though, thinking of stuff like the Manson cover version on Creator, then Suzanne Vega's 'Luka', then 'Mrs Robinson', then god knows what after that. All that ridiculous sensitive-puppy, wounded emoting, yeucchhh.
― dschinghis kraan (NickB), Monday, 29 April 2013 13:55 (thirteen years ago)
"the experience is working, the nubile subects react positively to this DISCO creation..."
genuine lols over here
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 April 2013 15:13 (thirteen years ago)
Frente's Bizarre Love Triangle was way ahead of the curve here,
Frente's version was a cover of Even As We Speak's cover
― charli.xlsx (sic), Monday, 29 April 2013 15:59 (thirteen years ago)
re: whigs
the way they covered R&B songs felt a little more in the spirit of, i dunno, creedence and the rolling stones than whatever lineage exists of punk/indie/alt bands up to that point who, if they covered R&B at all, it wasn't frequently and would probably have some element of parody or ironically 'flat,' dispassionate delivery. although there was definitely some edge of irony or playfulness in the whigs' covers too.
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― The Reverend, Monday, 29 April 2013 18:52 (thirteen years ago)
That Even As We Speak cover's great. I've never heard it before. Apparently Devine & Statton (ex-Young Marble Giants) got there even earlier, in 1989.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDMEeHp4fx0
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 29 April 2013 19:00 (thirteen years ago)
This obviously has nothing whatsoever to do with the Daft Punk album.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 29 April 2013 19:01 (thirteen years ago)
― The Reverend, Monday, April 29, 2013 1:52 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
big difference with the whigs is that dulli wasn't really doing the cheap contrast of "oh let's do an R&B/rap song in this completely nerd white way" he was actually trying to translate #swag into a grunge R&B context.
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 April 2013 23:08 (thirteen years ago)
this tangent unfortunately reminded me of this cover which I despise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0z1Mo7O6dE
― anonanon, Monday, 29 April 2013 23:33 (thirteen years ago)
Even As We Speak's was 1987!
actually trying to translate #swag into a grunge R&B context.
feel like this might refer better to Dulli originals than to their covers. also resistant to Al's suggestion that there's irony in their choice or performance of covers - playfulness yeah though
― charli.xlsx (sic), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 00:18 (thirteen years ago)
lol'ing that the whigs ended up in a daft punk thread but
re: there was definitely some edge of irony or playfulness in the whigs' covers too
i wouldn't say they approach them with any more irony or playfulness than what's in some of their own tracks. poor greg forever bein' doubted
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 16:33 (thirteen years ago)
Chilly Gonzales.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc3I0Ent9Zg
― crüt, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 16:37 (thirteen years ago)
i had a dream last nite that i was selected to do the warmup dj set for daft punk's premiere live performance of Random Access Memories material and i was super nervous but spent a lot of time preparing and did an adequate job
then when daft punk took the stage it was a total disaster, like a real life "shreds" video. they got so embarrassed they tried to do "one more time" instead but that was a disaster too and they were booed off the stage
then i got home to my computer to see that instead of posting the next "the creators project" video they accidentally uploaded a video of george clinton high on crack instead
i woke up very anxious for daft punk
― ְ֮֠֓֟֬֩ (gr8080), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 16:47 (thirteen years ago)
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despite the fact that I don't like gonzales, that's an interesting take.like, in the internet/singles download era, a "pop" album composed as a global piece of music, taking care of the keys of each track and the evolution of the whole thing !
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:02 (thirteen years ago)
I would *love* a dream like that
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:06 (thirteen years ago)
I've never even heard of this guy but I do think it's incredible that DP are so involved with things old-school like album sequencing and the progginess of key change bridges between tracks.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:45 (thirteen years ago)
it's not that proggy! it's just basic musical sense
― crüt, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:53 (thirteen years ago)
^, but i assume ARB was being sarcastic
― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:01 (thirteen years ago)
maybe his phone likes to auto-correct "progressions" to "progginess"
― ְ֮֠֓֟֬֩ (gr8080), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:02 (thirteen years ago)
I lap that stuff up. I could listen to that fellow talk basic musical theory all day. They should get Howard Goodall to do one next.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:42 (thirteen years ago)
looking forward to the Paul Williams vid.
― crüt, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:43 (thirteen years ago)
yeah cut the shit guys give us the paul williams vid
― ְ֮֠֓֟֬֩ (gr8080), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:23 (thirteen years ago)
ooh, good vid
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:30 (thirteen years ago)
Two to one says we get Casablancas next.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:35 (thirteen years ago)
(Not an amazing claim given that there's just him and Williams left, but it's a sure bet, you see.)
i demand omar hakim
― shit tie (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:36 (thirteen years ago)