amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

people hate drama kids is def more compelling than insights into internet marketing

most of it's a sympathetic sum-up but the bit i find odd is where artists shouldn't forget that haters are going to go their sites as well

This is a way of using technology to reach out to and engage interested fans, yes, but it’s also indistinguishable from the intrusive begging of any corporation — say, if I went to the Hardees website to marvel at the number of calories in their food and was greeted with requests to sign up for a customer loyalty program.

I mean, who's the intruder here?

I was innocently visiting Amanda Palmer's website when I was bombarded by Amanda Palmer related material

xposts

nah the latter is one reason i care -- as a model for the future of music its pretty horrifying and bleak.

vulture is ny mag btw? or did you mean ny mag "proper"?

he has 2 pieces in the last ~4 months

http://nymag.com/author/nitsuh%20abebe/

one thing i like about the piece is how it notes considering any of this as a "future model for new music" ignores how not-new it is. Artists have always been able to make extra scratch engaging in shameless cult-of-personality shit, it's just there's a new platform to do it on.

i mean, beatles toilet paper was a horrifying model for new music too

It’s damnably difficult to carve a private audience out of the open web...

Is that a bad thing? The possibility of friction can help keep you honest.

I wish Rod Stewart could have done a TEDTalk in 1980 about the exciting breakthrough in audience engagement via prancing in video clips

nabisco needs to visit the new schtick thread

but it’s also indistinguishable from the intrusive begging of any corporation

Not true, corporations tends to be more tasteful in their exploitative behaviors. For instance I haven't seen a corporation directly compare itself to suicide victims.

Funny you should say that: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2013/04/25/hyundai-suicide-ad-commercial/2113461/

it's a decent piece. nothing new, but well written and fair minded.

whats up w nabisco how come he doesnt really write for ny magazine anymore

Jody Rosen is their new music critic -- though I believe Nabs will still be contributing.

The big difference is that Hyundai actually issued an apology after being criticized.

If they did things AFP's way then the next ad would be all about how victimized they are by the criticism from the last ad, some self-serving "We started a conversation" stuff, a "Donate to Hyundai (Donate = <3)", and a link to a website where Hyundai owners can post their own stories, which will provide content for the next next ad.

Jody Rosen is their new music critic -- though I believe Nabs will still be contributing.

― jaymc, Saturday, April 27, 2013 1:05 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whats he up to, feel like his talents are kinda wasted on music, he could be talking abt more substantial things

ny mag has a strict "tl;dr" policy :/

dang

hope he finds a home that appreciates his otm

xp He's staying there, promoted to write about all sorts of cultural issues across the magazine.

oh good!

much better

wow that was a real emotional rollercoaster for me

you believed that they had a tl;dr policy that nabisco flouted lol

no roxy i did not believe that part if you must

loool at nabisco mentioning applebees at the end of that

whats he up to, feel like his talents are kinda wasted on music, he could be talking abt more substantial things

I have beef w/you for this attitude, you're nothing but an old lagoon that's what you are

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BI4eYG5CMAAwvdR.jpg

Groggily read that as 'osnar' and was all "...what? I don't get it..."

i thought it was osnar too

also lol @ "if u must"

i must be really slow because all i see is osnar. halp.

o snap?

you guys aren't very def.

meanwhile, this is my fave promotional campaign of the year. since people were talking about corporations and twitter humpin' promo babes. actually, its just an excuse for me to post this cool picture.

http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2013/04/25/25_yourenextposters.o.jpg/a_610x408.jpg

http://www.vulture.com/2013/04/youre-next-posters-temptation-big-wedding-peeples.html

even tyler perry thought it was a riot.

whats he up to, feel like his talents are kinda wasted on music, he could be talking abt more substantial things

I have beef w/you for this attitude, you're nothing but an old lagoon that's what you are

― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, April 27, 2013 5:25 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha im kinda just playin, its more that i think his particular talents maybe would be better suited to a lil wider lens, instead of whatever indie pop band hes into or the latest topic blog beef

"twitter humpin promo babes"

Osnar.

twitter humpin' promo babes

reminds me of my favorite single from 1994:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2up7su7CeMU

coincidence? you decide

featuring Cia Berg, previously of Ubangi, who released this in 1983:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ_GDaEA7G0

(I'd apologise for the derail, but really, this song is a better use of 3 minutes than being outraged at Amanda Palmer again)

http://www.salon.com/2013/04/29/amanda_palmer_to_morrissey_let_me_help_you_crowdsource_your_next_album/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

fuck, i only have so many eyes to claw out, you know?

Not a bad idea tho tbh if I was morrissey I'd do it

i know what it's like to be sick I had a sore throat once

I know you don’t use Twitter, but I’m sure you probably understand the basics of how it works.

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Drawing flowers in the margins of Morrisey

I tweeted a link to the article about your canceled tour, and then asked this simple question of my followers (I have about 850,000 of them): “How many people out there would pay $5 to crowdfund/pre-order a digital-only Morrissey album?”

There were many, many answers. You were discussed, anecdotes were shared... and I said very little.