a little late to the party here, but i want to say i basically agree with lex 100% on everything w/r/t YOTG, especially this
'closer' is very great but i don't feel it's particularly representative of YOGH. 'single' and 'mad' are, but i think the album's heart is in the more delicate, thoughtful second half - 'part of the list', 'back to what you know', 'lie to me'.― lex pretend, Thursday, February 12, 2009 5:10 PM (32 minutes ago)
― lex pretend, Thursday, February 12, 2009 5:10 PM (32 minutes ago)
lex and i agree that 'single' and 'mad' are the two best songs here, but it's important to really engage with the second half of the album, which doesn't have as many knockouts but is essential to recognizing the album's true character
i also second his recommendation of matos' idolator post, it's wonderful
― some black dude (k3vin k.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 22:55 (seventeen years ago)
Album cover is interesting... what/who does it sound like?
― someone who seems to only rep for ghastly prefab autotuned pop (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 February 2009 22:55 (seventeen years ago)
It's a creepy album too.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 February 2009 22:55 (seventeen years ago)
Yes!!!!!!!!!!! Grouper!!!! My no2 pick!!!
― The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 22:55 (seventeen years ago)
― The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 22:57 (seventeen years ago)
That song is probably the poppiest think Liz Harris has done, I think that song might appeal to 4ad/Mazzy Star fans?
― The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 22:58 (seventeen years ago)
Review from Foxy Digitalis. it got 10/10
Grouper "Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill"TypeOn her 3rd outing as Grouper, Liz Harris strides forward with her most fully realized album to date. Where previous efforts were more or less focused on the creation of ambient spaces that masked the underlying song structures of each of Harris?s pieces, ?Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill? finds her striking a fine balance point between the two creating an amazing cycle of dreamy melancholic pop songs. The twelve down tempo cuts on this album envelope the listener in a swirling fog of sound; acting as a transportation device to those quite hours in the morning where the fog and chill of night are just starting to lift and one can begin to see the first rays of light glistening off the dew. Those beautifully still hours when the world slips momentarily into silence while shifting between night and day. There?s a sense of sadness that pervades these songs, but Harris manages to circumnavigate the tendency many may have to bog the listener down in a mire of despair, but instead offers up a more contemplative atmosphere.Each song is simply and carefully arranged for acoustic guitar, electric guitar and voice. Many of the pieces maintain but a single pattern over which Harris lays her wonderful and soothing voice encouraging the listener to drift off. There is almost a mantra-like quality to each of the songs with its reliance on repetition and sustained mood. Beginning with the brief instrumental ?Disengaged? the album moves into full on dreamsong mode with ?Heavy Water/I?d Rather be Sleeping?. This piece works to set the tone for the whole record, the first part invoking more atmosphere or a dreamscape, while ?I?d Rather be Sleeping? is a straight up and engrossing song structure based around a very simple chord progression on acoustic guitar and a yearning to return to sleep. As the album moves along the songs switch between acoustic and mildly effected electric guitar all the while continuing along the intoxicating path established at the onset of the recording. While each song is an absolute joy to behold, the space is established in such a way that each function more or less as part of a whole and differentiating one from another really becomes rather unnecessary, one just yearns for the woozy effect of those breathy vocals as they eventual gather the listener up into an almost euphoric state of being.?Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill? is really a testament to the power of simplicity within song, and is one of those great records that will require continued listening for many years to come, especially when moments of reflection and contemplation are needed. This is an amazing album that will most likely remain a highlight release for the year. 10/10 -- Cory Card (18 June, 2008)
On her 3rd outing as Grouper, Liz Harris strides forward with her most fully realized album to date. Where previous efforts were more or less focused on the creation of ambient spaces that masked the underlying song structures of each of Harris?s pieces, ?Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill? finds her striking a fine balance point between the two creating an amazing cycle of dreamy melancholic pop songs. The twelve down tempo cuts on this album envelope the listener in a swirling fog of sound; acting as a transportation device to those quite hours in the morning where the fog and chill of night are just starting to lift and one can begin to see the first rays of light glistening off the dew. Those beautifully still hours when the world slips momentarily into silence while shifting between night and day. There?s a sense of sadness that pervades these songs, but Harris manages to circumnavigate the tendency many may have to bog the listener down in a mire of despair, but instead offers up a more contemplative atmosphere.
Each song is simply and carefully arranged for acoustic guitar, electric guitar and voice. Many of the pieces maintain but a single pattern over which Harris lays her wonderful and soothing voice encouraging the listener to drift off. There is almost a mantra-like quality to each of the songs with its reliance on repetition and sustained mood. Beginning with the brief instrumental ?Disengaged? the album moves into full on dreamsong mode with ?Heavy Water/I?d Rather be Sleeping?. This piece works to set the tone for the whole record, the first part invoking more atmosphere or a dreamscape, while ?I?d Rather be Sleeping? is a straight up and engrossing song structure based around a very simple chord progression on acoustic guitar and a yearning to return to sleep. As the album moves along the songs switch between acoustic and mildly effected electric guitar all the while continuing along the intoxicating path established at the onset of the recording. While each song is an absolute joy to behold, the space is established in such a way that each function more or less as part of a whole and differentiating one from another really becomes rather unnecessary, one just yearns for the woozy effect of those breathy vocals as they eventual gather the listener up into an almost euphoric state of being.
?Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill? is really a testament to the power of simplicity within song, and is one of those great records that will require continued listening for many years to come, especially when moments of reflection and contemplation are needed. This is an amazing album that will most likely remain a highlight release for the year. 10/10 -- Cory Card (18 June, 2008)
My no2 pick in this poll. Well chuffed to see it place.
― The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:00 (seventeen years ago)
Maybe calling it a "creepy" album is a misstatement. It's more of a "creeper" album.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:00 (seventeen years ago)
oh ok now im sold
― some black dude (k3vin k.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:00 (seventeen years ago)
Yay for Grouper, but isn't it called Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill, rather than 'dear' and 'the hill'?
― emil.y, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:02 (seventeen years ago)
xpost, yes it is.
when i finish checking out the dream (ok, loving this a lot more than ne-yo on initial reactionz), i will check out that grouper, it sounds right up my street.
I feel bad contributing to this thread little more than 'ok, i need to listen to that. and that. and this. and then i listened to this and liked it. and then i listened to this and liked it. etc.'
― cheese and other good things (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:03 (seventeen years ago)
Woah the grouper sounds good, even if its combination of shoegazer wispiness and strumming is a bit LOL2008.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:04 (seventeen years ago)
Where the hell are all these records being talked about? I don't remember ever having heard of that one.
― Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:04 (seventeen years ago)
i wrote this a few nights ago re los camp!... and it's a little unpolished cuz i was up against deadline but it's basically how i feel about them
Los Campesinos!, an indie rock band of college kids from Cardiff, Wales, released two full albums in 2008. The first, Hold On Now, Youngster..., is one of the best and most fully realized indie debuts of the decade. At the surface, the album is just a sugar-rush indie album with twee leanings (see: awful doodles on the album cover), but at its core it reveals a band that features a few of the most singular and inventive minds in contemporary indie.
At the forefront is lyricist and vocalist Gareth Campesinos! (all band members have stage last names on the Ramones tip), a post-LiveJournal lyricist who is more in touch with our generation of Internet over-sharing and blog verbosity than maybe anyone in music. Some find Gareth's screeds and harsh singing voice melodramatic and overly silly. But that's because the idea that teen drama is simultaneously silly and dead-serious emo is basically the point of Los Campesinos!
Gareth's humor and wit are unmatched, and he takes on our generation's ridiculous histrionics by lovingly mocking himself ("And I spent the last seven years/ Perched on the edge of my bed/ Scratching 'I am incredibly sincere' into my forearms") as much as he does others (actual song name example: "This is How You Spell 'Hahaha, We Destroyed the Hopes and the Dreams of a Generation of Faux-Romantics'").
The whole thing -- wordy titles, snarky lyrics, great pop hooks -- is very Fall Out Boy, if Pete Wentz's major influences were Pavement and Yo La Tengo. But, similar to when Fall Out Boy cut through the garbage-sludge of Nickelback and Audioslave with "Sugar, We're Going Down," Los Campesinos! have positioned themselves as the antidote to contemporary British indie, the anti-Glasvegas/Bloc Party/Kaiser Chiefs, etc.
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:04 (seventeen years ago)
emil.y loads of good albums could have been higher if you had voted!
― The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:05 (seventeen years ago)
rest is boring interview w bassist xp to myself
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:05 (seventeen years ago)
no don't be, it's good to know that people are checking things out...
i had never heard of grouper at all before, and that is a freaky cover, but the review makes me want to check it out.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:06 (seventeen years ago)
basically i see what's v hatable w/ them that im surprised that i love them so (i was a #1) and are surprised when other ppl do (lol passantino) but i also get what is so incredible about them but it basically boils down to "i identify with lyrics" (i am white and sometimes emo btw) and i like indie rock with great hooks (" i am white btw")
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:06 (seventeen years ago)
everyone keeps talking about the dream? but its not been listed has it or have i missed something?
― The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:07 (seventeen years ago)
I love Fall Out Boy, so it's probably intellectually dishonest of me to continue to avoid Los Campesinos based on all of the "i am white btw" associations alone.
x-post, The-Dream is so gonna make it onto the list, it's riot time if not.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:08 (seventeen years ago)
yeah the-dream is gonna place really high
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:09 (seventeen years ago)
i hate fall out boy anyway, and even more so for effectively ending ashlee simpson's career via impregnating her :(
― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:10 (seventeen years ago)
the only diff b/w los camp! and fall out boy is that the former came up in the 90s and the latter in the 80s - of course a comparison to fall out boy is high complement imo
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:10 (seventeen years ago)
the child, lest we forget, is named bronx mowgli wentz
kinda wish dom wasn't banned from this thread as he's the only person i know on ilx who likes both fall out boy and lc!
Hold On Now Youngster was my #1 as well, but I guess you all knew that, considering I've spent so much of the thread being such a LC! stan.
― cheese and other good things (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:11 (seventeen years ago)
dom, if you're reading, plz evaluate my claim
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:11 (seventeen years ago)
what do you guys who like fall out boy think of their first few records?
― some black dude (k3vin k.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:11 (seventeen years ago)
i haven't heard anything before cork tree
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:12 (seventeen years ago)
w00t for Grouper, my vote weighed in. Hauntingly beautiful.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:12 (seventeen years ago)
i think all three are genre classics
Hating Fall Out Boy is wrong. Do you know I know several people whose favourite albums of the last twelve months are Fall Out Boy and Ne-Yo? This pleases me immensely.
I actually only know the two most recent FOB albums.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:13 (seventeen years ago)
those sounds like cool friends tim
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:14 (seventeen years ago)
Oh Dom is banned from the thread? Wondered why he hadn't said anything about the HMHB
― The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:14 (seventeen years ago)
x-post - they are!
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:15 (seventeen years ago)
yeah my distaste for their early work has prevented me from appreciating anything they've done since, though i kind of liked "i don't care".
the early stuff is basically emo-ness x1000 and devoid of any of the charisma the might have now
― some black dude (k3vin k.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:15 (seventeen years ago)
Same here.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:15 (seventeen years ago)
FOB suck. Grouper rule though! Check out her other albums. All great.
― The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:16 (seventeen years ago)
of course a comparison to fall out boy is high complement imo
Glad I don't live in this fantasy world.
Very happy for Grouper, btw -- the album is great!
― ilxor, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:16 (seventeen years ago)
id love to see your reactions to hearing the first record
― some black dude (k3vin k.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:17 (seventeen years ago)
xposts to tim and j0rdan
here kev i'm gonna post my two fav songs from their new one
(coffee's for closers)
she's my winona
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:17 (seventeen years ago)
Dom is banned from the tracks thread, not this one.
― Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:17 (seventeen years ago)
I actually have zero interest in primitive FOB. I only like such bands when they go all shiny and professional (see also Blink 182).
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:18 (seventeen years ago)
Blink 182 and Limp Bizkit reformed this week. Wtf is happening???
― The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:19 (seventeen years ago)
dom is banned sitewide tho right?
― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:20 (seventeen years ago)
again?
― some black dude (k3vin k.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:20 (seventeen years ago)
again?x-post
― The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:20 (seventeen years ago)
sadly neither blink 182 nor FOB went shiny enough to get rid of that emo boy whine, which is like nails on a fucking blackboard to me
― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:21 (seventeen years ago)