Sonic Youth: Classic or Dud/S&D?

every time i try to listen to that chelsea light moving album i get embarrassed and have to turn it off. there are some really bad "punk" songs on there.

mainly the one where he just yells "TOO FUCKING BAD! TOO FUCKING BAD!" over and over

the guitars sound pretty good. should have been instrumental. the lyrics are sub-thurston. which is saying something.

Thurston unchecked is entirely embarrassing.

I've never been a huge fan of his, either in or out of SY, but now I can hate on him for additional reasons.

Thurston's got a good amount of enjoyable non-SY stuff, song-based and not, but yeah i cannot dig the CLM album

You guys really need to grab the Body/Head/Gate LP stat

Thurston's NOISE is usually choice, song based stuff is hit/miss (ditto for Lee)

I liked Trees Outside the Academy a lot more than the last couple of SY albums, never heard any of his more avant solo stuff though.

didn't mind Demolished Thoughts.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=oi8Y4afbPuc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Doi8Y4afbPuc

i guess thurston can go on double dates with wayne coyne now

Thurston should return to Coral Gables. We got gastropubs now!

gastro pubs & their $15 hamburgers are the greatest scam ever visited on the american ppl

with Kim out of the band who's left to write that stinging indictment

i feel like NY Ghosts & Flowers would have been the album most ready for a gastropub diss

this article makes Thurston sound unbelievably lame

like, just garden-variety rich middle aged man banging my new "assistant" lame

the psychic heart wants what it wants

what Jordan said

while this is definitely an unromantic bummer, I must admit I'd rather be dating a hot young sycophant than married to Kim Gordon. And I can also see preferring juggling successful suitors to being with Thurston Moore. So maybe everyone's better off.

Kim Gordon is better off because she was publicly humiliated and dumped for a hotter piece of ass?

except the folks pining for that "plays Goo" tour, I guess

xpost that's not what i wrote, dandydonweiner

preferring juggling successful suitors

ugh are you kidding dating in your 50s/60s sounds like a total nightmare. double for anyone as famous/infamous as Gordon

but what do I know

again, i compared it to being married to thurston moore

context, guys

uuuuuugh i wish i had never read this news

this kinda thing is like one of the most common things ever. you know? "people are people" - bob marley

yeah, i dunno, they're just a couple who broke up. I mean, it's sort of a bummer, but lots of couples break up -- even feminist noize rockers!

I kind of don't care about any of this, it's not like they're role models or friends of mine. But I do like their music as Sonic Youth and thought the Eternal was decent but not what I'd like to hear as their Last Album.

it always makes me sad to see something, even a relationship of two people i will never know personally, die that way
maybe i'm just a sap
getting old is gonna be hard

it's no Here, My Dear

kim makes me nervous in real life. not in a bad way, just nervous. she has that stare. I definitely wouldn't want to forget to take out the garbage in her house.

Someone just do a mock up of Thurston and Kim on the cover of Rumours and be done with it.

i haven't heard this Chelsea Lite thing, but can this "TOO FUCKING BAD! TOO FUCKING BAD!" thing be read in a Rumours-like capacity?

i'd be bummed if georgia hubley and ira kaplan broke up i suppose -- but they've have made their relationship a part of their songs. At least they sing love songs, right? Kim & Thurston's relationship was never really presented as such in Sonic Youth's music. [not sure if that makes sense but...]

iirc xgau's reaction on his blog was something about how it sucks but he always thought k&t lived really separate lives, while ira & georgia splitting would really bum him out

IIRC, nabisco wrote something very OTM about this.

http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/kim-gordon-thurston-moore-2011-10/

But if you were counting on them, or anyone else, as proof that interesting tastes and shared passions could create some version of adulthood and marriage any easier than the one you grew up looking at, then sorry: Your parents were probably right about that part.

oof

this article makes Thurston sound unbelievably lame

Tbf, his ex-wife's side of the story is almost guaranteed to.

Also, he can't have been particularly rich per se, could he?

are you kidding

rich in cultural capital

Well the article suggests the divorce hold up involves figuring out how much an eighties hardcore poster archive is worth

so many records...

Byron C. told me he was gonna be writing the authorized SY bio. that's the only new SY info I have to share. should be interesting!

i'd be bummed if georgia hubley and ira kaplan broke up i suppose

damn, dont even suggest it dude. i couldnt handle being deprived of their boring-ass crap

Ooh a third SY bio, this one authorized!

i'd probably read it. I like Byron. he's like the 6th beatle or whatever. I don't honestly know how interesting all their stories are. Thurston grew up near me so I know how bored he was. that's about it.

I have faith in Byron to make it all awesome