that 'our father' there bears quite the resemblance to the admittedly less evocatively titled 'to be vocalled soon i hope' tune on dj ng's page mentioned way upthread; both in turn remind me of elephant man's 4ever fabulous 'can't stop we now' from 2003, which married that year's sense of triumph with an uncontrollable welling-up of a vague melancholy it knew not, and which has also just given me an unrelated and undesired libertines earworm. bah.
also love 'bounce' on roska's myspace. bit underwhelming in demo form there though, footloose played a better one a while ago i'm sure.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 12 February 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha I love "Can't Stop We Now" but i'll have to listen to everything again to see such a link.
Does anyone think "In The Morning" might become a moderate-sized hit? it reminds me of Architechs' "Bodygroove" for some reason.
Anyway I love, it's so irrepressible and fun and feel-good but (unusually for a big vocal anthem) with a really cool beat.
I am sympathetic to jacob's complaint upthread that the scene is a bit bipolar in terms of anthems vs bangers. 2-step managed this issue by having long "hard" instrumental sections in the middle of poppy tracks (most typically this would be on a remix of a more straightahead pop-2-step version) which would turn anthems into bangers. Funky seems still to be beholden to the housier tradition of not actually switching up the groove too much.
That said I adore that vocal track that goes "if you want it gotta take it babe you know you gotta ask for it don't you wanna own it honey..."
― Tim F, Friday, 13 February 2009 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Also loving DJ Naughty's electrodribbly fem-vox cover of "Love Lockdown" - A+ for concept and execution.
― Tim F, Saturday, 14 February 2009 04:55 (fifteen years ago) link
^^show me!!
i'm not sure funky is going to spawn any size of hit - 'do you mind' missed the top 40 the other week :(
― lex pretend, Saturday, 14 February 2009 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Lex it's on all the recent marcus nasty sets, I don't have any standalone evidence.
― Tim F, Saturday, 14 February 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Other tune that's really hype for me right now is the one with the descending piano riff and the sampled vocal going "dat dat, nn dat nn whoo-whoo!" before breaking out into near-absurd broken beat percussion.
― Tim F, Monday, 16 February 2009 04:42 (fifteen years ago) link
can someone re-up or send me "Our Father"?
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 05:46 (fifteen years ago) link
okay listening to the Jan 15. Marcus Nasty set and the funky beat + "Gypsy Woman" riff + "Back to Life" vocal + Skepta doing that one rap he always does about the gorgeous lady is totally fucking w/ my mind
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 06:29 (fifteen years ago) link
okay, what is the piano track that comes in at 22 mins?
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 06:37 (fifteen years ago) link
this set is k-awesome btw
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 06:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah the 15 Jan is a favourite of mine too. I don't know what the piano tune is but how cool are the beats on it?
When you get to it Reverend let me know what you think of the track at 36 minutes.
I'll try to re-up "Our Father" a bit later.
― Tim F, Monday, 16 February 2009 06:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Also the one I'm describing above (see quote below) is at 52 min:
"the one with the descending piano riff and the sampled vocal going "dat dat, nn dat nn whoo-whoo!" before breaking out into near-absurd broken beat percussion."
Actually it's more like "da da, da-daon her-ber!"
― Tim F, Monday, 16 February 2009 06:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Also wouldn't mind knowing what the track at 30 mins is.
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 06:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah that one's everywhere - in my head I'm grouping it under the banner of "LFO revivalism" (see also Roska's "In Your Handbag" and JME's "Blanka").
(though "In Your Headbag" is perhaps more like LFO X Claude Von Stroke X Nick Holder's "Erotic Discourse" - and of course there's a funky refix of "Erotic Discourse" floating around too)
― Tim F, Monday, 16 February 2009 06:56 (fifteen years ago) link
36 mins is okay. I like the vocals in the chorus, but not so much during the verse, beat isn't quite anything special. I've heard several things in this mix I like more.
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 07:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Liking whatever comes after it.
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 07:01 (fifteen years ago) link
52 mins is A++++ would dance to this all the time
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 07:16 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry to be dumm but wheres the link for that mix?
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Monday, 16 February 2009 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link
The Crazy Cousinz track at 56 mins is dope too
http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2009/01/marcus-nasty-21st-january.html
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 07:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Rev, that's "Inflation", AKA my track of the year!
― Tim F, Monday, 16 February 2009 07:55 (fifteen years ago) link
thank u!
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link
ah, I see... it is the b-side of "Funky Anthem" (which is so-so not their best work imo)
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 08:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah "Funky Anthem" is pretty average. If I ever see that 12inch though I'm picking it up for "Inflation".
― Tim F, Monday, 16 February 2009 08:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Some more youtubery on this thread
― Mirror-spangled elephant head (J@cob), Monday, 16 February 2009 09:21 (fifteen years ago) link
lots of these tunes (inc 'inflation' and 'our father') are available to buy from ukfunky.com btw
― lex pretend, Monday, 16 February 2009 09:41 (fifteen years ago) link
outside of the uk?
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 09:55 (fifteen years ago) link
oh i don't know if it works outside the uk - it's via paypal so i thought it would. will reup tonight if tim hasn't...
btw crazy cousinz rmx of shontelle. omg pianos! http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yyvo1my0ott
― lex pretend, Monday, 16 February 2009 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4620/backoc5.jpg
Tracklist:N10-Tainment feat Ruth - I Pray (FaZe Special)Footsteps - Baby KintaPrincess ft Coldsteps - Frontline RemixDJ NG - Tell Me (Geeneus Remix)DBC - PromisesDBC - Promises (Roska Remix)Lil Silva - SeasonsFuzzy Logic ft Egypt - In The MorningRoska - Whats In Your HandbagKIG - Head Sholders Knees & Toes (Donaeo Remix)Suges Vs Swift Jay - TribeColdsteps ft Princess - I Will Be ThereDj Gregory - Dont PanicMarz Music ft Kadisha - FreeLemar - If She Knew (Crazy Cousinz Mix)Major Notes ft Steelo (Skream Out)Restless Soul - Tricks (Faeda Remix)Delinquent - I Got U (Delio D Cruz Super Funky Mix)Diamond ft Terri Walker - Love At First SightTribal Audio - AbyssTawiah - Everystep (Arms Remix)Roska - Our FatherM Sadler - Shine For MeYotam Avni - Get TogetherDoctor - Give It To You (Soultonic Soundsystem Mix)Fuzzy Logic ft LA - Call MeWookie - FinallyThe Sunburst Band - Journey To The Sun (Dennis Ferrer Mix)Teedra Moses - Be Your Girl (Faeda Soulful Mix)AC Layne ft Charlene Dance - Deja VuDj Sekey - Ride The Database (Chillzone Mix)
Download:
Zip File (Seperate Tracks)rapidshare: http://rapidshare.com/files/197742403/FaZe_-_Funky_February_09.zipsendspace: http://www.sendspace.com/file/lqxvddzShare: http://www.zshare.net/download/55582475312d0614/
Single File:zShare Stream: http://www.zshare.net/audio/5557763227d97caf/
― faze01, Monday, 16 February 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link
THANK U THANK U <3 <3 <3
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Thanks for that FaZe! It's nice to be able to ID the Suges vs Swift Jay track - would never have guessed that Suges were involved (then again I don't know what the original sounds like) but in retrospect it kinda makes sense. I always thought that tune sounded a bit like a Low Deep grime instrumental.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 09:45 (fifteen years ago) link
From the Marcus Nasty set Jan 15th, what the f&*k is that MAW/Omni Trio-esque tune with the pianos at 22:38secs!!!???
― Martinclark, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
KIG - Head Sholders Knees & Toes (Donaeo Remix)
^ this is teh nuts. (might forgive him farmer yardie at this rate.) also the new lowslung muttered verse is exactly why i keep saying flowdan should switch to funky. even the crap one from tok would do!
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Farmer Yardie was great though.
― Bernard's Butler (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
haha check out who joined donaeo on stage for 'african warrior'
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
:-O
Also that makes "African Warrior" and "My Philosophy" sound like the same genre.
"^ this is teh nuts. (might forgive him farmer yardie at this rate.) also the new lowslung muttered verse is exactly why i keep saying flowdan should switch to funky. even the crap one from tok would do!"
Yeah I love this, and I like how Donaeo just sucks up pre-exisitng tunes and makes them his own. Flo Dan totally should be a funky MC though - he always sounds best talking shit over fast beats. Stop fucking with The Bug, Dan, and get on this.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link
^^cosine - also that big latinate remix of princess nyah. really feeling the track that opens it too - more xylophones! love its abstract moodiness. and tawiah into 'our father' is such a great transition.
surprised there hasn't been much lil silva talk here yet, 'seasons' and 'funky flex' are both massive...
also ALSO: crazy cousinz and hard house banton are playing wifey on friday and i am definitely reaching...
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link
http://profile.ak.facebook.com/object3/253/3/n46748313035_1475.jpg
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah Lil' Silva is great, I think I talked about "Seasons" is one of my overviews last year. My only complaint is that he's the producer that lots of funky house sceptics check for in order to legitimise their sweeping dismissals of the rest of the genre, presumably because "Seasons" is the archetypal (grime)-funky tune. But this is not his fault and it's an amazing track either way (also approaching "Yellowtail" levels of deserving ubiquity at this stage).
― Tim F, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link
don't know the ID but its a remix of / shares the sample with Hi Times - Journey Into Jazz, which is phenomenal
― Benjamin, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link
yeha wifey sounds sick this week but it clashes with prosumer/maurice fulton at east village. plus every time i go some sort of uk dance ting i attempt to blend in by wearing a new era hat and look like a tool.
― straightola, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link
i found an mp3 of that amazing n10-tainment track on the faze mix http://www.zshare.net/audio/547459512b656c83/
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:03 (fifteen years ago) link
re: 'seasons' and grime-funkiness - i see where you're coming from but i think it's so much more obviously melodic, and with more of that steelpanny carnival vibe, than 'yellowtail'. also it feels like it's always on the verge of turning into '4 minutes' (and wow, imagine a funky remix of that beat)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah can I stress that it's a fabulous track! My beef is purely contextual (as is the "yellowtail" comparison - but also remember "yellowtail" is a really fun bumping tune - the bass drop!).
Mak 10's "Sequence" - now there's a crappy "hard" effort.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
don't think i've heard that...
cooly g's "mwah mwah mwah": best producer stamp ever?
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.illestlyrics.com/wp-content/uploads/jadakiss3.jpg
nah.
― lol laocoon (r|t|c), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
kode9's new funky stuff
http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=HYP009
― jon b (bass), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link
The reservations I have about "Black Sun" and "Gone 2 Far" are fairly similar to those I have about "Sequence", though they're better tracks: sure the rhythm programming is nice enough and the synth chords are impressively discordant but... it's not very funky is it? The groove doesn't really build at all, on either track, it just sort of assaults you repetitively. Compare/contrast with "Inflation" which doesn't hold itself out as groundbreaking but is all about the build, the sense of excitement of the ratatat snares glancing off the string slashes, the point when the booming bass finally comes in, then the xylophone. Whereas Kode9 seems to like making tracks that hover in stasis, suspended, sort of wavering in glowering confusion. This isn't a bad thing per se but it seems to me to depart from the core value of UK funky's approach to its groove (and its basis in house), which is I think very much about hype-building, trying to work a sense of narrative development into a relatively repetitive groove-framework. People like Roska and Apple do this less so than others (whereas Crazy Couzins, perhaps owing to their songfulness, are at the absolute extreme - all their tracks and remixes have multiple sections, builds, breakdowns etc.; Fuzzy Logic is another producer big into narrative development), but even with them there's more of this than on these Kode9 tracks - plus listening to most Roska or Apple tracks in full you start to realise how DJ/MC toolsy they are, best suited to appearing for 2 minutes in a mix with an MC on top rather than played out in corpulent seven minute glory. Whereas with these Kode9 tracks (and even more so "Sequence") it takes about thirty seconds to start wondering what the point of this continuing is.
Maybe this is why the hip hop parts of Memories of the Future are far and away my favourite Kode 9 productions: Spaceape provides the sense of "build" around which Kode 9 can then do his superlative creepy sound design thing.
Marcus Nasty on his most recent show apologised to Ramadanman for not being able to download his new funky tracks in time to play them. Based on "Blimey" and (the also amazing, headwrecking) "Revenue" I wouldn't be surprised if his funky tracks are strong; I think his approach to groove is already closer to the underlying approach of funky. "Revenue" sounds a bit like Aphrodisiax actually.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Kode9 seems to like making tracks that hover in stasis, suspended, sort of wavering in glowering confusion
a very satisfying description! very much so for Black Sun
i don't actually enjoy the tunes that much (as in i would probably be a bit bored on a dancefloor), but i guess that's not really the point for his stuff, and fair play. i'm glad he's drawn from a new set of influences and made a shift in terms of tempo and beats, but retained his individuality, vibe and vision. but you're right, as a result it feels a long long way from the heart of uk funky
interesting in terms of the discussion of his approach to narrative is to contrast his Reminnissin remix. in fact i think to be fair he mixes it up a lot between tracks in that regard... Konfusion, Magnetic City, Stung etc all involve pretty slow burning but intense narrative development (still glowering though!). there is though a sense in which you could almost say they evoke stasis in motion in some sense, an evolving closed circuit, wheras the likes of Fuzzy Logik or Crazy Cousinz evolve in a much more fluid and absolute way
as you point to, one of the things i find amazing about Crazy Cousinz is the amount of progression and build they can get into their vocal tracks without you really even noticing... they can feel like traditionally structured pop songs but in fact they swell and lift and break in pretty epic ways
― Benjamin, Thursday, 19 February 2009 11:59 (fifteen years ago) link
tbh despite the funkyesque rhythm i can't really think of those kode9 tracks as "funky" per se at all, and labelling them as such does both kode9 and UK funky a disservice - they seem to fit quite neatly into what joker, ikonika et al are doing right now though.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:05 (fifteen years ago) link
To be fair, I've heard Kode9 play 'Black Sun' in a straight funky set and it was totally danceable, fitted in fine but obviously sounded a bit alien. The second drop in particular went off.
― jon b (bass), Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:32 (fifteen years ago) link