Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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and yeah it is totally great from start to finish.

tylerw, Saturday, 20 April 2013 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

sylvester weaver is awesome, love his duos w/ walter beasley too. had no idea there had been so many imaginational anthems, I only have the first one - what's best?

ogmor, Saturday, 20 April 2013 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

This imaginational anthems reminds me a bit of when college fugazi fan me heard gang of four for the first time

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 21 April 2013 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

Think on the Andy Beta memoir I posted upthread, he mentions Fahey discoursing on electric Miles (he approved, apparently)? Seems like there's a similar vibe--intimate voice in space--at times: somewhat Milesian, if not precisely jazzy--but electric Miles emphasized in some interviews that he also was then using jazz as *one* component--maybe the basic one--but still, it was in there w blues, rock, Eastern, etc. I've also read that Fahey said he had no use for the blues very early on; maybe his initial explorations of UK-by-way-of-Appalachia might share some qualities with early 60s Brit folk guitarisms--?

dow, Sunday, 21 April 2013 01:27 (thirteen years ago)

of course it wouldn't really be Uk-by-way-of-Appalachia, but American mountain music w strong resemblance to UK antecedents--did he record anything before he got into the blues?

dow, Sunday, 21 April 2013 01:31 (thirteen years ago)

a lot of fahey's earliest recordings, as issued on the fonotone box, are straight blues pastiches.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Sunday, 21 April 2013 04:21 (thirteen years ago)

fahey was in his mid-teens when he had his damascene experience sobbing down the phone to dick spottswood after he made him replay blind willie johnson's praise god i'm satisfied. the story is mb a bit cute, w/ this "& that's when the scales fell from my eyes & i realized racism was wrong" subtext, but it was definitely a pivotal moment.

ogmor, Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

also fahey & graham were popularizers, taking solo guitar seriously, but they both drew on traditions that had loads of primarily instrumental guitar already, & saying they invented it is ridiculous

ogmor, Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:24 (thirteen years ago)

Um wow this spoken word intro on one of the new imaginational anthem

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

of course, ogmor, i didn't mean to suggest otherwise, my curiosity was mostly around the fact that there's the simultaneous birth of these kind of multicultural hybrid genres of solo guitar, playing but despite that musical pluralism there didn't really seem to be, as far as i'm aware, a great deal of crossover between the scenes.

the kind of man who best draws girls' eyeballs (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 21 April 2013 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not to up on 78s & stuff I guess casual racism is probably pretty common

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 21 April 2013 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

well, that's true, but they were both pretty small scenes really & it took them a while to make it across the atlantic. i am not a fan of the british stuff really, & there are plenty of other acoustic traditions going on in parallel - can ali farka toure be leibniz?

ogmor, Sunday, 21 April 2013 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

Fahey was big on bola sete

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 21 April 2013 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

bola sete, gliere, barbecue bob, paul tillich... all the greats

ogmor, Sunday, 21 April 2013 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know bbq bob but with a name like that I'm sold already

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 21 April 2013 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

bbq bob ain't bad, but he's far from my favorite georgia bluesman. that would have to be willie mctell, i think. blind blake was a georgian too, and sylvester weaver.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Sunday, 21 April 2013 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgmM9CxwgNo

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Sunday, 21 April 2013 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

I was going to link to the famous vrootz compilation of fahey's influences as some of you guys don't seem familiar w/ some of that stuff, but all links are dead. so, w/ nothing better to do w/ my sunday, I put together a spotify playlist. there are a few omissions but spotify has nearly everything. it's a really beguiling mix of bluegrass, big band jazz, country blues, high romantic russian symphonies, ragtime, fahey's beloved christmas music, mountain banjo, hawaiian guitar, gamelan, hillbilly music, samba &c. have a listen! http://open.spotify.com/user/ogmor/playlist/0RiAX0TJbinxXYOtai81wk

ogmor, Sunday, 21 April 2013 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

wow thanks ogmor! weirdly as obsessed as i've been w/fahey for the last year i don't know that much abt him. i should read his book.

interesting that prokofiev is on there, i'm reading a history of Folkways records (moses asch) and apparently woody guthrie was a huge fan as well.

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 April 2013 15:44 (thirteen years ago)

definitely read "bluegrass music destroyed my life" it's a great read, both for the weird semi-autobiographical/therapeutic writings as well as his recollections of musicians. good stuff.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, 22 April 2013 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that fahey roots mix is great, i've had it for a while, but i'm still absorbing it. i've only read bits and pieces of fahey's books, but i should just buy 'em...

tylerw, Monday, 22 April 2013 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

The Fahey books are great, "How Bluegrass Music Destroyed My Life" especially. Some real gold in there, whether you even like his music or not.

grandavis, Monday, 22 April 2013 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

i leant fahey books out and i doubt i'll ever get them back :\

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, 22 April 2013 17:01 (thirteen years ago)

Bummer man, I hate when that happens. Shitty.

grandavis, Monday, 22 April 2013 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

agree w/ everyone else re: "how bluegrass music destroyed my life", also enjoy this: http://johnfahey.com/reality.htm

ogmor, Monday, 22 April 2013 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

These look like Fahey tweets or something.

Evan, Monday, 22 April 2013 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

have you guys heard of Peter Walker? I found an album on Spotify called Long Lost Tapes 1970, pretty cool, def has a big raga/indian thing going on alongside american primitive stuff, anyway worth checking out and if anyone knows about him do tell

i saw william tyler get compared to him in some writeup online, first time i'd heard the name.

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 April 2013 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

also local mpls label putting out a new Paul Metzger album:

Paul Metzger – Tombaux

Tombeaux attains a new high-water mark in the career of Paul Metzger, one of North America’s greatest instrumentalists. Recorded in the dead of Minnesota winter, at home and alone, it’s the eighth Metzger release to feature his self-modified, 23-string banjo. The album marks our alchemist’s third appearance on NN, following critically acclaimed contributions to labels like Locust, Roaratorio and Honest Jon’s.

Tombeaux consists of three compositions. “Sepulchre” is a radical reworking of an original piece dating from 1984. “Of the Passing” is another Metzger original (showcasing some beautiful bowing), while “Beau Soir” features a wonderfully curious arrangement of Claude Debussy’s 1883 art song.

Metzger summons the spirits of his musical Appalachian forefathers, guitarist Django Reinhardt and classical sitarist Nikhil Banerjee, among others, weaving a peerless, highly individualistic style that sounds unlike anyone but himself. Metzger’s playing doesn’t imitate raga structures so much as use those modal figures as his starting point. He employs dazzling, breviloquent string plucks on the main banjo strings, whilst producing rhythmic, droning textures on the cross strings of an added bridge. Some have suggested similarities to the works of John Fahey or Sandy Bull, but Metzger’s modus operandi doesn’t constitute a mirroring of those styles; rather, he composes and operates apart from their music, in an insular and altogether separate universe. In the process, Metzger transcends and expands the lexicon in a wholly organic manner.

Release date: April, 2013
Label: Nero’s Neptune
Catalog #: NN026
Artist: Paul Metzger
Title: Tombeaux
Formats: 180g LP & CD
ⓒ & ⓟ 2013 metzger

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 April 2013 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

don't really know metzger, but digging this sesh on the free music archive: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Paul_Metzger/Live_at_WFMU_on_Bethanys_Show_on_1022005/

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

the whole 23-string banjo thing is nuts. it's basically so he can play the banjo like a sitar? kind of?

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

Aw man, I want to see a picture of that.

Evan, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://images.publicradio.org/content/2008/04/25/20080425_sitar0_25.jpg

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

speaking of mpls outsider dudes w/weird homemade instrument's here's dave krejci and the Cleophone (one of a kind instrument he made)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPMW7VOKOWQ

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

wild. that would be an interesting thing to hear wafting out of your neighbor's garage.

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:23 (thirteen years ago)

i just noticed in the youtube description he's running it through TWO leslies!

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

Metzger is kick ass. Playing a release show at the Turf! I think May 22? I've heard his latest is superb.

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

peter walker released two albums on vanguard back in the day -- 'rainy day raga' and 'second poem to karmella' (or something like that.) they are 'okay' in my book, rainy day particularly has some nice moments, but they are not the amazing listening experiences that the best of this stuff is, imo.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

i like rainy day raga, though, yeah, i think sandy bull did that thing better. the lost tapes peter walker thing that came out a little while back might be better than rainy day raga.

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

got my ticket for William Tyler on Thursday nite, excited!

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

man i really want to see him. i actually bought that imaginational anthem box set to get the william tyler live disc on there and it mayyyyy be better than the impossible truth. dude has got his guitar sound dialed in.

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

I'm interested in that, too. Know anything about the openers? They both sound a bit dreary, might pass on 'em.

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

don't really know them at all, i think of of them is from duluth?

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

My buddy just saw William Tyler in NYC and said it was fantastic, for what it's worth. He loves the record too, so he is a big fan, but I could see this stuff breathing a bit differently live in a good way. Plus, watching guys like this play enhances the whole thing quite a bit for me, it can be really hypnotic.

grandavis, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

just saw on FB that aquarius records has some of the imaginational anthem RSD thangs up for list price if anyone wants em - email mailor✧✧✧@aquariusreco✧✧✧.o✧✧

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

that's mailorder AT aquariusrecords.org

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

Real nice clips here

http://www.nyctaper.com/2012/09/william-tyler-september-6-and-7-2012-hopscotch-festival-2-performances-flac-mp3-streaming/

Love the Ohapse stream, real atmospheric

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, that Ohapse or whatever it is called is really nice, good trajectory. Would definitely like to see W. Tyler do this stuff live.

grandavis, Thursday, 25 April 2013 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

new dates for william tyler - psyched
William Tyler on tour:
Apr 27 Bloomington, IN — Landlocked Music Free in-store performance at 3PM
May 31 Nelsonville, OH — Nelsonville Music Festival
Jun 13 Toronto, ON — The Garrison- Panache NXNE Festival Showcase
Jun 15 Manchester, TN — Bonnaroo Festival
Jul 19 Columbus, OH — Ace of Cups
Jul 23 Boulder, CO — Fox Theater
Jul 24 Salt Lake City, UT — Kilby Court
Jul 25 Boise, ID — Visual Arts Collective
Jul 26 Seattle, WA — Capitol Hill Block Party Vera Stage
Jul 27 Portland, OR — Mississippi Studios
Jul 30 San Francisco, CA — Rickshaw Stop *
Jul 31 Monterey, CA — Golden State Theatre Lobby
Aug 2 Los Angeles, CA — The Echo *
Aug 3 San Diego, CA — Casbah *
Aug 4 Phoenix, AZ — Rhythm Room *
Aug 5 El Paso, TX — Lowbrow Palace
Aug 7 Austin, TX — Mohawk Inside
Aug 9 Oxford, MS — Lamar Lounge

tylerw, Thursday, 25 April 2013 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

what'd you think of the show, ums? i dug it- he was more of chatterbox than I expected, as was the crowd, but it thinned out nicely into people who were actually there to see him. definitely hypnotic playing, nice smattering of selections. I probably coulda listened to him play longer but it was also getting late so I didn't mind he didn't play all that long.

global tetrahedron, Friday, 26 April 2013 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i really loved it. he's just a wonderful player and it's amazing to see live and good selection of material. was kinda surprised by how young and kinda goofy he seemed! i guess his music is so hypnotic i expected different.

there were some ppl in the back i wanted to punch to make them shut the fuck up, but yeah got better as ppl left, it's like go to the fucking depot if you're just hanging out.

i bought the vinyl there, sounds great.

haha i'm sure we were standing like 10 feet from each other but i couldn't figure out who you were.

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:26 (thirteen years ago)


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