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I definitely respect Alive 2007 more than I enjoy it. It basically is their mash up album with additional crowd noise and uneven volume levels.
I think the album versions hit harder.
― Moodles, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:03 (thirteen years ago)
it's like when people say that the danger mouse mash up is the best jay-z album
some walking breathing straw man told me this to my face once smh
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:05 (thirteen years ago)
I actually don't like this band that much, find them kind of boring. :/ When they first got big, I was listening to totally different kinds of music, so maybe "you had to be there" to really love them? I'm of the opinion that what made them unique was the particular things/images they were referencing, as far as 80s TV and VHS nostalgia, soft rock, futuristic, vaguely iconic imagery that was still going for a big, pop impact -- in the late 90s and early 00s, that wasn't really tapped yet, and certainly not with the degree of professionalism they had. (pardon my ignorance, but they came from commercial art/graphic design before music?)
Still, I find it odd that people keep hoping new music from dance acts that were huge years ago will still be good. The music I heard on that SNL commercial sounded generic to my ears, Pharrell's vocal being the best thing about it (and even then, nowhere near as good an Off the Wall-ism as pretty much any justin timberlake single). I ranted about this to geeta the other night, but would be more inclined to check out, say, a new villalobos record than this. (apples to oranges sure, just trying to pull in another big dance act who started in 90s)
― Dominique, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:10 (thirteen years ago)
Alive 2007 is the only DP where I don't get bored 20 minutes in
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:11 (thirteen years ago)
hey crũt do you take mashup requests? just thought of one this morning: - deep purple smoke on the water with NIN Head Like A Hole (not the screaming bits) , with maybe a dash of vanilla ice beat boxing in there. not taking the piss, would like to hear it.
― Sébastien, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:12 (thirteen years ago)
I'm still kind of hoping most of the album sounds like "Revolution 909", "Da Funk", "Musique" and "Rolling and Scratching"
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:20 (thirteen years ago)
I expect it to mostly sound like "Fly Like An Eagle" tbh
― crüt, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:21 (thirteen years ago)
>I'm of the opinion that what made them unique was the particular things/images they were referencing
not just your opinion -- the whole point of this band is theft. I initially hated them for it. now that they've moved on from cloning Hardfloor records & sample mashup to cloning the production, session player lineups and album fonts of their favorite 70s/80s records, the whole thing has become a Stereolab-level meta-music project that I see no reason to resist. the sight of that robot swaying his head as he and Nile keep the beat -- nope not a guilty pleasure, that's art
if you want tougher robots, that can be arranged -- I like the Pantera & Motorhead covers
http://compressorheadband.com/media/
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:38 (thirteen years ago)
I do hear what you're saying overall, I have never made it all the way through a Daft Punk album, even in the car. But the pleasure here isn't as much about home listening.
http://www.amazon.com/Tb-Resuscitation-Hardfloor/dp/B00000E2IO
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:41 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah Dom I always associated Daft Punk with "fashion over music". They've certainly had their watershed moments - "Around the World" and "HFBS" both feel like cultural landmarks, and "Digital Love" is damn near perfect. I don't consider them to be in the same class as Orbital, or Underworld, or even the Chemical Brothers (all of whom have released great albums in the last 3 years, by the way), but Daft Punk albums feel so much more like events. They have that mystique.
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:42 (thirteen years ago)
it's semi bewildering to me that people rate Daft Punk so highly over those three acts
then I go back to "Salmon Dance" and, even though I'm cool with it, I get the argument against the Chems
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:45 (thirteen years ago)
It's almost as if they're one of the defining pop acts of all time.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Thursday, 18 April 2013 18:53 (thirteen years ago)
Madonna, Michael Jackson, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Daft Punk
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:00 (thirteen years ago)
people would like daft punk less if they weren't french, just like most french movies
― iatee, Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:01 (thirteen years ago)
I like them more than all those above bands regardless but people just love french stuff and french people, it's terrible
You forgot Chic.
There is no comparison between Daft Punk and Underworld or Orbital, or the Chemical Brothers, or whatever, and that's not a criticism of anyone. Just because other acts happen to have success within the sphere of "electronic music" doesn't mean they are in direct competition with each other at all times.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:05 (thirteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daft_punk_discography#Albumshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_brothers_discography#Albums
clearly there's no comparison point here
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:13 (thirteen years ago)
I get being a fan but come on
Michael Jackson > Orbital =>Aphex > Madonna > Underworld > Daft Punk > Whitney Houston > Mariah Carey > Chemical Brothers have fun with that
― H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:14 (thirteen years ago)
(i will cop to maybe needing to move whitney around a bit)
― H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:15 (thirteen years ago)
chemical brothers have aged really badly to my ears
― ogmor, Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:22 (thirteen years ago)
Galvanize is all time imo, but the 90s stuff? Have no inclination to touch it anymore. Was never a big Aphex or Orbital person to begin with so *shrug*.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:24 (thirteen years ago)
IMO Exit Planet Dust and Dig Your Own Hole remain incredible examples of big beat swagger and contain a lot of the swagger/bravado that I wish more of the contemporary acts celebrated around here had. (I was never a Surrender fan aside from "Hey Boy Hey Girl")
hell, even though I'm not a big fan of Discovery I would never say it wasn't a strong statement of a type of exuberance I rarely see people go for anymore, between the ways the sounds are chosen/put together and the tempos of the tracks
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:31 (thirteen years ago)
Orbital, or Underworld, or even the Chemical Brothers
I've never really cared about any of these people (ok maybe very, very briefly the Chem Bros)
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:33 (thirteen years ago)
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― cacao nibs (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:35 (thirteen years ago)
Take it to the big beat nostalgia thread guys
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:38 (thirteen years ago)
otm
huge fan of all the above bands and even i dont give a shit
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:41 (thirteen years ago)
I've loved and been disappointed by all of those acts over the years.
Except Orbital. Who is Orbital?
― cacao nibs (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:46 (thirteen years ago)
it was a popular drink in the 90s
― 乒乓, Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:47 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnYFyXDSJT4
― ְ֮֠֓֟֬֩ (gr8080), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:50 (thirteen years ago)
Why is there a Deadmau5 head in that graphic?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:51 (thirteen years ago)
why is there a zelda triforce in that graphic?
― 乒乓, Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:52 (thirteen years ago)
Why is Orbital in that graphic?
― cacao nibs (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:53 (thirteen years ago)
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clearly we got another 500 posts to go on a 128 kbps crappy single edit
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 April 2013 19:54 (thirteen years ago)
i spy, with my little eye, a CYLON
― POSTOBON Naranja (soda), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:02 (thirteen years ago)
lol @ carly rae
― sanskrit, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:18 (thirteen years ago)
the other electronic acts that emerged in the mid-90s didn't have nearly as huge of a resurgence throughout the 2000's.
I mean, I love Underworld and all that stuff, but Daft Punk is simply beloved on the same level as the aforementioned plus Stevie Wonder and Prince and the Beach Boys etc etc.
Chemical Brothers are simply not beloved on the same level. None of their previous releases have been met with nearly as much enthusiasm as Random Access Memories, or seem as implanted within popular culture as Discovery. In 1999/2000, Chem Bros were seen more as the defining artists within their genre, but hindsight has changed a few things. "Get Lucky" has a serious shot of receiving massive airplay on stateside Top 40, whereas the last time Chem Bros might have been considered for this was probably "Block Rockin' Beats."
― billstevejim, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:25 (thirteen years ago)
Galvanize was pretty huge though wasn't it?
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:27 (thirteen years ago)
I don't think "Galvanize" got much airplay in the states. "One More Time" still manages to sneak in though.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:30 (thirteen years ago)
I don't know what overseas radio currently sounds like, so I can't really speak outside of what I'm familiar with.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:32 (thirteen years ago)
Galvanize's biggest footprint in the US was a Budweiser ad and in tv shows. Don't think it moved on radio at all.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:33 (thirteen years ago)
I still hear it a lot at basketball games and such. Actually a lot of newer Chems stuff seems to have gotten airplay; nothing from Further but from that 2003 singles collection on I'd hear them all over the place. I agree that it's not quite on the Daft Punk level. They get lumped into the broad 90's electro spectrum of everything when they probably shouldn't. I mean Homework, maybe (and even then, there's a mountain of difference between Homework and say, Second Toughest) but Discovery was really THE electronic album of 2001, in a time when that genre was kind of dying. To their credit you still hear the footprints of Discovery all over the place. Still I dunno how this makes them as beloved as Stevie freakin' Wonder.
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:37 (thirteen years ago)
Further was dope. Better than anything Daft Punk has done in a long time.
― errant flynn, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:38 (thirteen years ago)
the Chems never got mainstream US radio play AFAIK; they were a staple of alternative/modern rock/college radio
"One More Time" started getting mainstream radio play in Boston around 2003/2004 during the pop station's mix show
I can't speak for UK reception because I don't live there but US fans itt are grossly overstating Daft Punk's influence/ubiquity; outside of "One More Time" I would wager money on them being known more by musicians than by the public, and that their biggest US successes have come off of being sampled by other artists.
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:40 (thirteen years ago)
Harder, Faster, Better, Stronger and Around the World are pretty well known too. But yeah for me it wasn't until Alive 2007 that I actually heard people outside of the usual electroheads talking about them.
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:42 (thirteen years ago)
yeah the 2007 tour seemed like a big event, not sure how many people they actually drew though
― mizzell, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:46 (thirteen years ago)
alive 1997 >> alive 2007
― 乒乓, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:47 (thirteen years ago)
not sure we need to look to the US to gauge the success of european dance acts, although it is kind of curious. i see fatboy slim failed to make waves over there.
― ogmor, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:48 (thirteen years ago)
simpler times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M-fulZStKY#!
― nashwan, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:53 (thirteen years ago)
those songs may be "known" but they aren't massive household name songs unless you live your life in a specific bubble (and HFBS is better known as "Stronger")
I am not arguing that Daft Punk isn't more famous now than they were when Homework came out but the idea that they are a full-on pop phenomenon when they've had zero top 40 US hits and 3 UK top 10 hits, the most recent one being over a decade ago, is ridiculous.
It is when looking at the hype wave currently being ridden by US posters; again, I'm not saying that Daft Punk are nobodies, particularly not in Europe, but they are not dominating pop here, they have never dominated pop here, and assuming the chart performance listed on Wikipedia is accurate they haven't dominated pop anywhere since 2001.
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:55 (thirteen years ago)