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Hurrr's my review:
http://crackmagazine.net/music/the-flaming-lips/

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 18 April 2013 11:12 (eleven years ago) link

Glad people are getting into this. I'm enjoying it almost as Embryonic now, probably my fourth favourite album behind that, Soft Bulletin and Clouds Taste Metalic.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 18 April 2013 11:34 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, in this case, less of Wayne's "wounded wonder" (brilliant term, btw) is welcome here. I find myself really enjoying the long moody instrumental passages and then his voice pops up and the mood is sort of shattered. But, I really like this record (as well as the last two) and am so happy that they've moved on from their shiny happy Yoshimi, Soft Bulletin phase. Which was about as cloying as the band had ever been.

I think the band's high water mark was the Ronald Jones era (Clouds, especially) it was the one and only time I thought they had a proper guitarist. (Seeing Jones live was always a thrill). Anyway, so glad the band is weird again.

kwhitehead, Thursday, 18 April 2013 11:43 (eleven years ago) link

also, agree about the insistent loudness of fridman's production style being a problem. distortion is cool, but "in the red" as an affect gets annoying quickly. see also: boris.

― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Thursday, 18 April 2013 01:39 (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Did he do "The Soft Bulletin"? Because in my short list of "albums mastered too loudly" that comes top! (the other is "Raw Power" the iggy one, but hey it's supposed to be too loud it's Iggy and the stooges!!!)

If so, is the LP version any better?

Mark G, Thursday, 18 April 2013 11:44 (eleven years ago) link

In a year of impressive releases by favored old fogeys (MBV, OMD, The Knife, Nick Cave, Thom Yorke)

You missed out Wire, but yeah.

Mark G, Thursday, 18 April 2013 11:45 (eleven years ago) link

Did he do "The Soft Bulletin"?

Yes.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 18 April 2013 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

How's the loudness on this? Is it as loud as Embyonic?

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 18 April 2013 12:38 (eleven years ago) link

and?

(xpost)

Mark G, Thursday, 18 April 2013 13:24 (eleven years ago) link

I don't feel like this is as loud as Embryonic. Less drums. I think the Lips big problem is that one they figured out how to get a Levee Breaks-style drum sound, they had to have it on everything, which effing ruled but once you have a blown-out drum sound you kind of need to bring everything else up in the mix or it would completely dominate. Hence the slippery slope into harse mastering.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 April 2013 14:30 (eleven years ago) link

"Levee Breaks" is exactly right. I used that to kick of the 'Embryonic'-tribute mix I made, 'Zygotic'.

Also--Wire have a new album? Shoot man, gotta find that!

Soundslike, Thursday, 18 April 2013 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

i don't know how loud it is from a mastering perspective but the music is way mellower so i'd be surprised if it was mastered as loud as their last few albums

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 18 April 2013 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips has said that The Stone Roses debut album is "virtually the same song over and over again."

Coyne, who is going to cover the whole album with his bandmates, appeared dismissive of the songwriting ability of Ian Brown and his bandmates when speaking in a new interview with The Sun. Chatting about his forthcoming project, Coyne said: "The one we’re working on now is the Stone Roses’ first record. I don’t really love them but I guess I do by loving their music. It’s virtually the same song over and over again. If you like one song, you’ll probably like all of them. If you hate one, you’ll hate them all."

In 2010, The Flaming Lips released a track-by-track cover of Pink Floyd's seminal 1973 album 'Dark Side Of The Moon' They also remade the debut album by British prog rock group King Crimson 'Playing Hide And Seek With The Ghosts Of Dawn', which covered every song from the band's 'In The Court of The Crimson King'.

Earlier this week Coyne also revealed that he is working on a full-length joint album with Ke$ha, tentatively titled 'Lip$ha.

This was august, last year..

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

I have that King Crimson thing but haven't heard it yet. I'll probably check it out today.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, I've never heard the Crimson thing -- or even of it.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 9 May 2013 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

I lost interest in these guys when they brought out "The Soft Bulletin" but "Embryonic" and this album have brought me right back around.

Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 12:30 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

'enders game' songs are a nice 'zaireeka' throwback. more please

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

the robert smith song is o_O

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

I see they have done/issued their Stone Roses rendering..

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

^ I googled to see what Mark was talking about and FYI: two weeks ago "The Flaming Lips And Friends" released a cover of the first Stone Roses LP (+ Fool's Gold), 500 copies only on marbled orange vinyl.

Lips are on four out of 12 tracks.

giant faps are what you take, wanking on the moon (sic), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link

It's a £150 constant on ebay, was looking for a, ahem..

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Meepy Morp is refreshing

calstars, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 14:28 (ten years ago) link

http://www.reddirtreport.com/red-dirt-news/all-your-power-what-would-you-do-christina-fallins-band-pink-pony-protested-norman

NORMAN, Okla. -- There’s an unwritten rule that reporters aren’t supposed to get involved in the stories they cover. As I have been covering this entire Christina Fallin/Native Appropriation debacle, it’s been extraordinarily hard because her and Pink Pony partner Steven Battles’ indignant racism towards indigenous peoples has become more sharpened and precise.

While once people were willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and defend their “artistic” choices as mere ignorance, Saturday night’s performance at the Norman Music Festival on the Blackwatch stage more than cemented the realization that they are deliberately provoking and trying to hurt Native Americans.

As a Choctaw, it was one of those moments where I couldn’t just sit by and let the story happen.

Earlier in the day, on the Pink Pony Facebook page, the low-rent techno band announced “I heard Pink Piny (sic) was wearing full regalia tonight.” Whether this was a message to taunt or inform, it put many local Natives into action, especially highly-acclaimed singer-songwriter Samantha Crain.

Through Facebook, she organized a silent, peaceful protest that would be held during the band’s midnight performance.

Support was overwhelming, but there were also the typical cries of “Don’t give them attention!” or “You’re playing into their hands!” Maybe so, but when it’s your culture and history that is being publicly desecrated, you tell me that it’s alright to stand by and allow it to happen.

As Crain and supporters gathered together by the side of the stage, respectfully out of the view of the main crowd, we stood patient, waiting for the music to start. Unfortunately, the first set, Steven Battle’s rock project, was marred with tons of on-stage tuning, feedback and the general impression that they haven’t rehearsed that day, if, honestly, ever.

Once the music started, we held up our homemade signs that read “Don’t Tread on My Culture,” “I Am Not a Costume” and, in honor of Flaming Lips’ frontman and noted Fallin supporter Wayne Coyne, who stood behind the partition with Fallin’s entourage, accompanied by his girlfriend, laughing and pointing at the protesters, “What Would You Do With All Your Power?”

From the stage, Battles goaded and tried to incite reaction from the peaceful protesters, calling us “haters” and, at one point, urging the crowd to throw the middle finger our way which, sadly, much of the crowd did, like dogs trained to salivate to the sound of the world’s most out-of-tune bell.

It was around this time that a seemingly inebriated woman named Lauren Lackey, a Norman pseudo-celebutante claiming to be a part of the Norman Music Festival, belligerently told protestors that we were ordered to vacate and couldn’t be there.

As she got in the faces of various picketers, I stood defiantly as four security guards surrounded me. As they tried to strong-arm me, I stood like the big brick wall that I am. That is when everyone surrounding us took out their cellphones and began filming. One security guard grabbed my wrist and I looked at him and said “Do it. The world is watching.” Hearing that, he backed up and just stood in front of me with his arms crossed.

Eventually, the Norman PD showed up and said we had every right to protest there, but Lackey continued in her ranting. However, and kudos to Blackwatch for this, they allowed Crain on the other side of the partition where Fallin’s entourage stood mocking us, holding her sign with a courage and determination that inspired all of our tired arms to just hold our signs up higher, more stoic than ever.

Within minutes after that, Fallin took to the stage dressed in pantyhose, garters and an obviously Native-inspired shawl that read in big black letters “SHEEP.” This was in reference, it is theorized, that the protesters were easily-led morons for not believing what the band said in their non-apology regarding their “love of native culture” and whatnot.

This was painfully and brutally reinforced when, during one of their numbers, Fallin lifted her shawl over her head and did a perverse mockery of a native war-dance, twirling in circles as the drummer—anonymously wearing a “white-face” mask, mind you—tried desperately to keep the beat.

To see her reenact a sacred ritual like that in front of drunk, hateful hipsters literally caused the protesters’ collective jaws to drop. In essence, to me, it felt like Fallin was throwing it down and ultimately declaring war on Natives, not only the culture, but the people as well.

She really is like her mother.

As the show wrapped up and things seemingly returned to normal, one thing kept flashing through my mind: the image of that sea of white faces, giving the protestors the finger. It became a full-blown hate rally at that point, only with worse music. And these are my peers! I saw people I knew, I work with, that I called friends, turn on me and my fellow protestors because of our race and what we believe in.

I knew at the moment that they wouldn’t be happy until they kill the rest of us off.

Yeah, a reporter isn’t supposed to get involved in the story. We’re supposed to take a step back, observe and tell you, the reader about it. Collect our check and then move on to the next one. But when pure, unadulterated evil is staring you in the face and daring you to take it on…the press pass goes down and the will to fight goes up.

Maybe Fallin and Battles went into this trying to get attention for Pink Pony, but with their Norman Music Festival performance, they publicly let it be known they want a war.

Well, kids, you got one.
- See more at: http://www.reddirtreport.com/red-dirt-news/all-your-power-what-would-you-do-christina-fallins-band-pink-pony-protested-norman#sthash.bFDBAzJ5.dpuf

Wayne...still a dick.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:03 (ten years ago) link

We are talking Oklahoma here, scientifically proven to be the worst state in the Union.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:07 (ten years ago) link

http://www.reddirtreport.com/rustys-music/update-flaming-lips-drummer-fired-insulting-waynes-pal-christina-fallin

UPDATE: (7:34 a.m. April 29, 2014) Red Dirt Report's Louis Fowler just offered us some new information on the reported firing of Kliph Scurlock as drummer of The Flaming Lips: "(Red Dirt Report) has obtained physical CONFIRMATION from multiple sources who, at this time, cannot be named for various reasons that will eventually come to light, that Kliph Scurlock was indeed fired from the Flaming Lips for speaking out against Christina Fallin's headdress photo. We at Red Dirt Report applaud Scurlock for his bravery in standing with the Native peoples of Oklahoma, no matter the cost."
- See more at: http://www.reddirtreport.com/rustys-music/update-flaming-lips-drummer-fired-insulting-waynes-pal-christina-fallin#sthash.6WPScnqD.dpuf

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:10 (ten years ago) link

South Carolina or Florida are way worse than OK

idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link

xpost "Physical confirmation?"

Florida and South Carolina both have things going for them that OK lacks, sucky though all three states may be.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link

Why doesn't Texas fall into the ocean?

Because Oklahoma sucks so hard.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link

Josh, a commenter something about a text message. I assume that.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:40 (ten years ago) link

Ah. Yeah, that would make sense. I guess I was stuck on the "physical" part. Like someone discovered a swab of Coyne's asshole DNA or something.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:42 (ten years ago) link

i don't know shit about the governor or state of OK but to be fair the governor did call out her daughter on her bullshit

marcos, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:54 (ten years ago) link

the flaming lips' social media is covered in this shit

it's kind of funny

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link

Florida and South Carolina both have things going for them that OK lacks, sucky though all three states may be.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 14:35 (Yesterday) Permalink

That thing is: "The Ocean"

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 15:32 (ten years ago) link

i take back what I said about oklahoma, in light of last night's "botched" execution, fuck you oklahoma.

idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 15:34 (ten years ago) link

What is good about Oklahoma?

The basketball team, I guess. I don't follow basketball. How the heck did they end up with a good basketball team?

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link

not really a fan of shitting on states when it's really some aspect of the state government that you want to shit on. i'm fine with shitting on stupid state and other governments. but a bunch of different kinds of people live in OK and every state has some cool stuff going on. florida and SC included

marcos, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link

He's never going to acknowledge this, which makes him even shittier in my eyes. Just say you're sorry you might've offended some people and move on.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 1 May 2014 14:03 (ten years ago) link

Don't even address firing the drummer or being friends with a bunch of 18-year-old girls. All you have to do is apologize to those you offended in the Native community. What's the harm?

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 1 May 2014 14:04 (ten years ago) link

have a feeling he does not actually give a shit and is having some mid life issues

akm, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link

i hate this guy so much

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link

Of course he doesn't give a shit. That's why he sucks.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link

I still like Clouds Taste Metallic, though. *<:-|

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link

http://gawker.com/how-the-flaming-lips-lost-a-drummer-over-native-america-1570423161/all

This story keeps gaining traction.

Their social media is covered in slime right now.

I still think it'll probably go away by the end of the month and Wayne will continued to not acknowledge everything. I'm pretty disappointed.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 2 May 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link

more like the flaming so deeply immersed in irony as a lifestyle for so long that they are now incapable of acknowledging blatant racism as troublesome lips

ienjoyhotdogs, Friday, 2 May 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link

I knew them hanging out w Miley was a sign of trouble.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 2 May 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link

Jordan SargentJordan Sargent
Yesterday 4:44pm

Wayne Coyne, by the way, is kind of a dick. You may remember this bullshit he pulled with Erykah Badu http://jezebel.com/5916667/erykah...

He also allegedly cheated on his wife http://newsok.com/flaming-lips-s...

Sorry Jordan, but whatever that is it isn't music journalism. Digging dirt on someone's divorce has nothing to do with this head-dress shitshow, it's just gross. I'm not interested in defending Coyne over this but pulling together different issues as if to prove that someone is de facto a dick, WTF is that? Just as depressing as when lots of people decided they were experts on Kim and Thurston's divorce.

Uh.... Kliph now has a pretty big, pretty damning story on P4K.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

Kliph

PLATYPUS OF DOOM (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link

why not Qlyphh

PLATYPUS OF DOOM (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link

or Clyffe

PLATYPUS OF DOOM (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 May 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link

xp Well that's a first-hand account of the incident in question from someone who was in the same band for 12 years, not "Oh btw he might have cheated on his wife" as if that's anybody's business. Pretty damning though. Wonder what Coyne will say when the next interviews roll around.


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