Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

oh, it's not bad, don't get me wrong! i am at a place in my life where i'm sort of aggressively pruning my record collection.

have you heard that women's guitar workshop thing?

oh actually just found it streaming here: https://mog.com/m#album/35697431

the name "margo random" sounds like a pynchon character.

i haven't heard that! i'll have to listen.
ya'll know the "puget sound guitar workshop' record right? that's a classic.

i don't know that one! looks totally groovy tho
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AZIdQlGzcwE/TW0xvhndoFI/AAAAAAAAD-s/HdMojWcVIlQ/s1600/DSC_0019.JPG

http://notoncd.blogspot.com/2011/03/puget-sound-guitar-workshop-album-1977.html

ur a national treasure

Dude in the top right looks kinda like Tom Carter of Charalambides (though also like a ton of other long-haired and bearded men). Album sure does look groovy though.

damn thanks tyler & thanks for your next-level internetting skillz

Hmm, I drunkenly bought that Janet Smith book, not sure what I was thinking, haven't really listened to any of her music, and I'm assuming that tape isn't coming in the mail alongside it. At least I only dropped 11 bucks!

haha dammit now i gotta shell out $400 :p

that one probably comes with the cassette

damn the janet smith revival begins HERE

Hah, always knew that this thread had a higher calling.

guys... i know i do not keep up with newer guitar stuff as much as some of you, and spend a lot of time listening to older records. yesterday i went to the house of {famous 78 collector] and this is one of the records that got played -- amazing guitar instro by Bayless Rose:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bmqvRzBteQ

oh awesome. bayless rose is on the upcoming imaginational anthem thing (and on that grrrreat mountain guitar thing, too).

yeah, i was psyched! i don't think he's on the LP version of mountain guitar, cuz i don't think i'd heard anything by him before yesterday. but maybe i just missed it.

cool thx ian, super excited for that imaginational anthem thing, super pissed i actually have to drag my ass out to record store day :/

xp yeah he's the last track on the CD version -- "jamestown exhibition"... thanks for that recommendation, loving the whole thing.

bonus inzane old-timey tune:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=xzbMALS0Edo&NR=1

Digging both of these songs. Thanks!

yeah, so good.
listening to this danny paul grody dude this morning, who we may have talked about upthread? - http://dannypaulgrody.bandcamp.com/
he's on the last imaginational anthem comp, maybe more in a soundtrack-y/ambient/almost new age vein, but very very good. apparently has a new thing coming out on three lobed this summer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnYWvsME-1U

gonna just post occasional old-timey videos in this thread, try to keep it more guitar and songster oriented than fiddlin

i may have posted this on ilx somewhere before but it;s a huge fave--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4sIv_qQ314

Also great, but with a name like "Jimbo Jambo Land" it pretty much has to be. Enjoyed the Rabbit Brown as well, keep em coming!

That Danny Paul Grody is really nice. I am a fan of minimal guitar stylings, and it is just a really well-textured set of songs. Nothing too showy at all, but I also didn't find it too new-agey, pretty good balance of stuff to hang onto (i.e., movement and melody) and drones/layers to my ears. Think he is on tour with Chuck Johnson, also mentioned upthread.

danny paul grody is really hitting the spot right now, need soothing stuff w/how crazy this week has been in the world

also perhaps it's a testament to fahey himself that this thread can contain stuff ranging from jimbo jambo land to danny paul grody and it still makes *sense*

lol at this from the lumineers thread
really tempted to start trolling Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads in the LOL FOLK MUSIC style of this thread

― some dude, Friday, April 19, 2013 10:11 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha classic some dude

Yeah, this thread is a real winner in that sense in re the range of the stuff that "makes sense". I would think the Fahey would have liked, or at least not actively hated, most of the stuff here.

Oops, bad timing there.

idk, fahey hated a lot of stuff

from what i've read & what peter told me fahey was really anti-Folk Music (TM) anyway right?

he told glenn jones that "fingerpicking is a disease."

Yeah, I guess I shouldn't underestimate Fahey's level of disdain for most music ....

he told glenn jones that "fingerpicking is a disease."

― tylerw, Friday, April 19, 2013 5:38 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

&vtorch of the mystics deemed kitsch

haha for a second i was like "fahey dissed the flaming lips??"

hey I have a bit of a historical question that I assume you lot will know - as far as I can tell Fahey and Davy Graham were the Newton and Leibniz of solo guitar, coming up with it independently at around the same time, right? But I've found it kind of odd that there doesn't seem to be a great deal of overlap in the post-Fahey and post-Graham traditions, maybe only emerging more recently where the audience for them both has changed a lot. Am I missing the early connections somewhere? (And in a more musicological sense - Fahey-style and Graham-style mostly sound v different to me but I don't have the ear to really discern what it is that's different between them, is there a neat way of summarising it?)

I guess I put it down to the source material each worked from, difference between scots/anglo folk and country/folk/blues? (obv lots of crossover there)

Picked up the Imaginational Anthem 6: Roots of American Primitive Guitar

Everyone who cares enough to post in this thread should def hear this

Graham was heavy into jazz too not sure if fahey was but don't get much of a jazz vibe from his stuff

yeah the jazz thing is heavy with graham and his followers -- don't think fahey cared for much jazz past dixieland (or at least didn't incorporate anything past that into his playing). graham/jansch/renbourn etc. were huge mingus fans.
but yeah i have been sort of interested in the UK strain of this stuff, too -- there's a dude c joynes who is kind of bridging the gap between the takoma thing and the more English/Scottish/Irish folk sound. http://www.boweavilrecordings.com/joynes.html

yeah the jazziness of Graham (especially rhythmically, I think) seems one of the clearer divisions, I suppose the bit I struggle to unravel precisely is where Graham's lean towards British folk and Fahey's lean towards American folk becomes clearest, especially since Graham doesn't shy away from blues either.

https://soundcloud.com/tompkinssquare/guitar-rag-by-sylester-weaver this track from Imaginational Anthem 6 is great, definitely have to check out the full thing.

the american fiddle repertoire is deep rooted in scottish, irish & english fiddle traditions; likewise, the melodies of these tunes incorporated themselves into the body of american folk song. in turn you get guy's like fahey who will straight up play an arrangement of an irish folk melody like "lord of all hopefulness" on 'yes jesus loves me.' similarly you get "st. patrick's hymn" at the end of 'transfiguration.'

i thought there was a website that listed the varying names for tunes based on geography, but i cannot find it now.

Is that Imaginational Anthem Vol 6 a record-store day only thing? Rats.

it'll be out for real next month -- i think the limited double LP gatefold thing is the "record store day" part of it. but i think you should be able to get it on vinyl/CD/whatever next month in some form.

and yeah it is totally great from start to finish.

sylvester weaver is awesome, love his duos w/ walter beasley too. had no idea there had been so many imaginational anthems, I only have the first one - what's best?

This imaginational anthems reminds me a bit of when college fugazi fan me heard gang of four for the first time

Think on the Andy Beta memoir I posted upthread, he mentions Fahey discoursing on electric Miles (he approved, apparently)? Seems like there's a similar vibe--intimate voice in space--at times: somewhat Milesian, if not precisely jazzy--but electric Miles emphasized in some interviews that he also was then using jazz as *one* component--maybe the basic one--but still, it was in there w blues, rock, Eastern, etc. I've also read that Fahey said he had no use for the blues very early on; maybe his initial explorations of UK-by-way-of-Appalachia might share some qualities with early 60s Brit folk guitarisms--?