Every huge artist has their "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

think "Cherry Bomb" was the other top ten (can't check Wiki now) but it's understandable: both start with "Ch"

Mellencamp returned to pop singer records on Whenever We Wanted and Human Wheels but this was the point at which the VH-1 and teen audience parted company. "Get a Leg Up" a minor hit. He wouldn't score another top five (his last) until "Wild Night" in '94.

yeah I switched the "ch" singles, sorry. point stands, though - what keeps it from being an obvious New Jersey is that some people think it's better than Scarecrow, and that the "career decline" was self-inflicted after jubilee.

did we mention INXS's X?

I think so, though it only went 2xplat so it didn't qualify for the poll

god, I hope The Knife's album doesn't end up as this. (I really like it, but then I also really liked Born This Way.)

That Shins album that debuted at #1 on the Billboard chart
Sigur Ros' ()
LCD Soundsystem's first album (challops! Yes it was a hit, but there was nothing on there as good as the singles that had already been released, and the magic was already gone)

interpol - our love to admire?

Men at Work, Cargo

Queens of the Stone Age "lullabies to paralyze"
Liz Phair "Whitechocolatespaceegg" or whatever
Tha Carter 4 def
REM's is "New Adventures in Hi-Fi," not "Monster."
Smashing Pumpkins' is "Adore," not "Mellon Collie"

Beck is kinda huge and he doesn't have a New Jersey.

Actually Beck's might be "The Information." I know a lot of people that really love "Guero."

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xp My idea of a career decline doesn't include a record as good as Sound of Silver tbh

REM's is "New Adventures in Hi-Fi," not "Monster."

it didn't go multiplatinum

Yeah, I definitely think Monster is the New Jersey of R.E.M.'s catalogue.

Guess you could throw Hail To The Thief into this, too.

I haven't read the whole thread but that bono gif makes me wonder : what was U2's already ?

This was disputed repeatedly, "Rattle & Hum" fits in the sense of "huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow" but "career decline" doesn't quite hold up. Apparently it's "How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb."

hum. I don't know anybody who owns or likes "dismantle" (and I've never listened to it).
I'd rather say "zooropa" or "pop" but maybe it's more linked to my own interest in that band.
anyway, I won't get into the dispute...
thanks for the update !

will "random access memory" be daft punk's "new jersey" ? (or was it "human after all" ?)

I think "dismantle" may actually have been a huge album but just not in the world of anybody I hang out or talk to, see also that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"

Dismantle, definitely.

HTTF wasn't that much of an event album and In Rainbows is no decline. I think Radiohead managed to rewrite the rock-career script sufficiently to avoid a New Jersey. With the greatest respect to Amnesiac, it was no Slippery When Wet.

every time someone on this thread says what their friends thought about an album that didn't even gold, I kill an angel.

The King Of Limbs may be Radiohead's New Jersey... a huge amount of people were waiting in anticipation for it on the back of In Rainbows and a large percentage of those people were ultimately disappointed. If their next album is shite, then it undoubtedly is The King Of Limbs.

*kills angel*

hey now, KoL went gold

that poor angle, murdered for nothing

much like my speling

yeah, yeah, but the angel still had to die on principle

xp I guess based on Beck's non-platinum status for several of his albums, he's ineligible for a New Jersey.

the idea was to limit the concept to albums and artists that were actually "huge," so that we could nerd out over stats rather than have dinks debating which Apples In Stereo album was the first to suck

that reminds me, This Timeless Turning was totally Sky Cries Mary's New Jersey

no way, everybody at my college radio station was mad excited about Exit At The Axis and I always knew that was poopie and nobody talk about it now, totally their new jersey

isn't Beck kinda huger than whatever weirdo bands you guys are joking about?

"Fugue in D minor" was totally Bach's New Jersey. It was all downhill after that.

Hey now, I am just encouraging what I think is a specifically hilarious fit of pique, no need to get defensive.

haha i realize i'm being ridiculous, believe me. but i'm still going to wail on anybody who either can't grasp the concept, can't bother to read the thread, or check wikipedia to verify their hunches about which albums sold how much. if a chart nerd can't police a chart nerd thread then what's the point in being a chart nerd.

chart groupies

no i'm like creed, i spurn them on route to the stage and then float above the throng

and this thread is the hotel bar where i wait for 311 to walk by

Were there New Jersey's prior to the '80s?

there was definitely a thread prior to today

oh yes, i see a couple listed now. 95% of these are after the mid 80s

well that's partially a factor of poster age and comfort zone mixed in with the context of calling it a "New Jersey"; clearly the phenomenon has existed since people started buying music

also the fact that gauging multiplatinum success is easier after the riaa starting giving out the multi-platinum awards

In 1976, RIAA introduced the platinum certification, first awarded to Johnnie Taylor's single, "Disco Lady", and to the Eagles album, Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975). As music sales increased with the introduction of compact discs, the RIAA created the Multi-Platinum award in 1984. Diamond awards, honoring those artists whose sales of singles or albums reached 10,000,000 copies, were introduced in 1999.

so basically, the only pre-80s albums to have multi-platinum certification are the ones who bother to get it

pretty sure yo la tengo's 3x platinum 'summer sun' has the whiff of new jersey, and i'm not talking about hoboken

I stand by my theory that New Jerseys depend on a certain way of marketing albums over a long period of time, and effectively only existed between Thriller and MP3s, although outliers can be found.

Is it too early to declare Katy Perry's Prism a New Jersey?

hüsker dü - candy apple grey, yea?

katy perry otm

da croupier getting hella salty as this thread ages, i love it

90's US underground version of this is Jesus Lizard's Down