The Lumineers

xp lol

The difference between this band and Fleet Foxes is as vast as the difference between CSNY and America.

to their death

xp i feel like there are certain "spirits" in which play, costumes, etc. can be done that are different than others (cf. my annoying explanation upthread of the difference between inauthentic authenticity and authentic inatuthenticity). it may be impossible to make real "rules" about these kinds of things -- and if there are rules that seem to work most of the time, there are always lots of acts that transcend them somehow and it's hard to tell why -- but i feel like these differences are real, and significant, and i think that these are the things we respond to when something appeals to us or repels us. in the case of the lumineers, i just think it's more complicated than the fact that they are bland and unexciting, idk, i just think the cultural politics of these types of things are more complex than that.

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and lock

probably about time for this thread to be put away tbh. i hope the members of the lumineers discover it one day and find something to think about.

careful, don't tip your hand

not enough Lumerians in this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozznS-lGslo

i dig that lumerians track.

they're awesome. do a good "crazy horses" too.

djp/vegemitegrrl otm throughout thread but man, i miss defend the indefensible. because if this were defend the indefensible i could point out that these guys seem to have drawn a lot of attention away from kings of leon.

why is peter gabriel itt

tra·di·tion
[truh-dish-uhn]
noun

4.a continuing pattern of culture beliefs or practice.

Usage: "There is a long tradition of phony-baloney bands co-opting or enlisting lazy signifiers, trends and fashions as a shortcut to success."

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, April 15, 2013 3:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fair enuff. still weird, like alla sudden there were half a dozen o-towns and 98 deg bands popping up without there being any backstreet or nsync in the vicinity to explain it. keane without coldplay and coldplay without radiohead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJO35zU5bXg

I have never knowingly heard this band but I have important opinions about them:

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lol

Hanson have sunk to a new low

haha

hahaha rev

that needs to go viral

i just realized that the reaction to these fools is basically the same reaction some people had to mall punks

which mall punks did you kill, marry, and fuck, respectively?

America (the band) is awesome.

America this, sucker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Adx0RXpvg

None of the above, gross

seeing 'Ho Hey' embedded in the 'hipster music that seemed specifically manufactured for Apple commercials' thread made me realise that I'd been yakking on in this thread without having heard anything by The Lumineers. \o/

now I have, bucket of shite.

ha this morning i listened to lumineers songs other than hit single for the first time, just to feel informed. :(

http://www.yourmusicisawful.com/2013/04/hey-kids-grow-a-pair-how-music-blogs-neutered-indie-rock/

phenomenon of indie tending toward the soft and non-confrontational might be a thing, but her explanation of the cause is pretty ridiculous

This is the blog post he's talking about http://www.theworldforgot.com/2013/02/24/the-best-albums-of-2012/

What a load of bollocks. Who's even heard of this random, rubbish blog? I like its tagline though: "I don't listen to bad music, neither should you."

Sorry - "she's"

Blogs have created a structure in which the handful of kids writing for the elite establishment like Pitchfork or Stereogum choose whatever unoriginal crap they like that week and all the little blogs fall in line. They are all so busy jumping on each other’s bandwagons, nobody has bothered to notice their wagon train has been driving in a circle for roughly a decade now.

I mean, what? How so? And why more than print media used to? And why would this necessarily favor "neutered" indie?

if anything, as seen on this thread, people who are deeper into music, record collectors etc., favor more challenging stuff and get irritated by music that's satisfied to remain predictable.

i think this kind of super twee, bland indie music is more marketable to mainstream audiences than other kinds of indie music, which is why it's so popular. apple is the culprit moreso than pitchfork which, say what you will about it, champions lots of different kinds of things.

fwiw almost none of the records on that list she cites were in the metacritic top 25 for the year, whereas a lot of heavy-ish stuff like Swans, High on Fire, Converge and Tame Impala was.

http://www.theworldforgot.com/twf/pic/cloud_cult_08.jpg

Holy shit who are this shower? I could never countenance listening to a band who look like that.

they look like a campus theater company, like not the actual drama majors but one of those extra-curricular clubs without much budget

I think I remember reading that only one person in a band photo should be wearing a loud or colorful pattern, and this is a good example of that

barenaked ladies style most REDACTED looking member thread stat

i think I'm between crouching flight goggles, bandana pirate guy and trombone jack. Although the collagen lips girl is pretty annoying too.

each of them holding the item they would be beaten with moments later

wait I think the flight goggles might actually be a sleeping mask. or a very tiny brazierre.

re: that your music is awful post -- i dunno, starting to glamorize the early 90s as some kind of golden age for music taste and community just seems ... wrong.

also hilarious that a blog/podcast urging kids to "grow a pair" are posting about ...
The Smiths
Camera Obscura
British Sea Power
Verve
etc...

is this like that time brooklyn was to blame for dc's band scene going zzz

that post is so terrible it makes me want to like the lumineers and mumford. just saw it on my fb timeline and went here to post it but saw i'd been beaten to it. also Matt & Kim are great and i thought jack white like rocked or something, i dunno?

"the elite establishment like Pitchfork or Stereogum"

"Lets go back to doing what we used to do. Hanging out at record stores, going to shows, talking to actual people about what they’re listening to." they have record stores still what?

i don't like the kneejerk dismissal of "twee" music, especially when terms like "neutered" and "grow a pair" are used which implies that rawk music should be tough and not "feminized." fuck that paradigm. it seems overtly sexist to me.

the problem with mumfords/lumineers isn't "tweeness", it has to do with the fact that theirs is an unimaginative, blandly nostalgic sort of costume theater, and it doesn't communicate anything meaningful to me.

criticizing mumfordeers from the standpoint of 'authenticity' is pretty heavy lulz tho.

i mean, i'm glad i was able to help you experience authentic laughter... something REAL.