Search and Destroy : New Order

Still no official word, but apparently Warners have got someone in charge of 'sorting out the mess'. There's more over at the NOO forum.

I like some of their records, yes, thanks

that's why I posted to a Search & Destroy thread about them

answering questions on an ilm thread two days later. i'd say classic.

I dug up my "Gerry and the Holograms" single recently.

for those of you who may not know, Mhannet jumped from Rabid records to Factory, and the dudes left behind founded Absurd records.

Let's just say it bears a remarkable resemblance to a NO 12" single of note. and was made at least a year before it....

To be honest, I have a couple of the reissues and still don't hear any issues worth complaining about.

Can't say I ever noticed how much Gerry and the Holograms sounds like Blue Monday. Pretty amazing. I have a few of the Absurd releases, Blah Blah Blah, Eddie Fiction and 48 Chairs. The 48 Chairs single is a total classic.

Holy shit really? I haven't heard that Gerry & The Holograms thing in a few years now. I remember it being very good. I'll have to relisten. Don't know Eddie Fiction. Wasn't impressed with either Blah Blah Blah or 48 Chairs.

I'm only familiar with it because of the remix that ended up on that Diplo/Santogold 'Top Ranking' mix last year.

Well I'm listening to it now and don't see much of a similarity, I'm afraid. Only if you were specifically looking for one, I guess...

I saw New Order in 1984 when they played Perfect Kiss for the first time ever and they also played Decades as an encore. So there.

wait seriously? damn

The similarity is mostly to BM's sequenced bassline.

Someone must be more goth than both of us, John.

OK, time zones it is..

Anyhow,

Can't say I ever noticed how much Gerry and the Holograms sounds like Blue Monday

It's the same bassline, it's the same tune!

Blimey.

check: http://www.go-quick.co.uk/Holograms.MP3

Doesn't want to load, mate. Sorry. Anyway, drunkards on this side of the Atlantic who have to go to work at a 9 to 5 tomorrow need to go to bed now. It's 2:20 AM. Goodnight.

http://www.go-quick.com/holograms.mp3

(Think I'd know my own website address...!)

@J0hn D:

I was at that same Billy Barty's Roller (Disco) Fantasy gig in 1983, as well as the Florentine Gardens show a couple of nights earlier. Fantastic show. Love it that someone recorded it from the soundboard and it's out there in FLAC. (I'd forgotten Barney's "If you like this, you must like Ronald Reagan." quote - classic)

Just such a bizarre venue for a gig. A GoldenVoice one at that.

Strangely, in an interview Tom (their US label guy) said the Florentine Gardens show was "crap". Yet I clearly remember at one point thinking, "My entire reason for being is to be standing here seeing this magnificent band play this music." (OK, so I was young and overwhelmed.)

@Millsner:

"Cries And Whispers" is my all-time favorite NO track. They only played it live a few more times after that Billy Barty's gig. I'm glad (and lucky) I heard them do it, in retrospect.

seen this yet?

http://neworder-recycle.blogspot.com/

spaaaaffff

thanking u

Very cool! Thanks for posting the link. Most exciting is this from the August 4th post:

Once the remaining ten singles are done there'll be some more surprises to wrap up New Order's Factory years. Remember that rarities box set you wished Retro was going to be? Yeah.

i expect to see NO back at the top of the ilx last.fm charts this month

yessss...<3

I remember grabbing one of two of these that were posted to the NOO forum as previews, but didn't know anything about the blog. Glad to see the project bore fruit!

Finally having time to go through these and they are amazing.

On the other hand Bad Lieutenant's first single is now streaming on myspace and it's quite disappointing.

Thanks for that link! I've been looking for that Record Mirror mix of Subculture for a few months now. Best version, IMHO. Awes.

oh my god, that Recycle blog is the single greatest thing I have ever seen on the internet

I'm glad this blog is getting attention, hosted by the husband of my friend and sometime ILM contributor Thomas Inskeep. Some of these cuts are revelatory.

Someone stole my idea for a blog. I have most of these. Took me around four years.

loving the 12" version of Shellshock so much right now

so i love New Order, but I'm not a crazed superfan -- what's the deal with all of this material? It's all OOP/unavailable? For god's sake, why? Fill me in here!

Because Rob Gretton is dead, the band don’t speak to each other, and the record company are so incompetent wrt the catalogue that they had to recall the entire pressing of double-disc remasters they put out last year due to sub-par sound quality and wrong songs.

in a nutshell

loving the 12" version of Shellshock so much right now

^^^This.

too bad the blogger is not a big fan of Robie's edits. As a fan of that style of editing, and Robie in general, I love Shellshock. Backing vocals and all.

heh, thanks for the sum-up, sic. God bless the Internet!

xpost OTM

I am not a fan of Robie either. He came off as a prick in New Order Story. I feel like he ruined both Sub-Culture and Shellshock. Both songs sound much better live although the Record Mirror mix of Sub-Culture is the best mix (mostly because it's a beefed edit of the album version sans idiotic repeating sampler jack-offery and sans that horribly out of time bass sequencer).

Funny, I didn't think him at all prick-ish in NO Story...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwhepHqsO8E

John Robie clip.

Yeah, doesn't bug me at all, but maybe I'm predisposed to like him because I think he's a genius.

If I don't like the 2 mixes he did for New Order, can you recommend some other mixes he did that you consider contributions to his 'genius' status?

Love this blog, thanks Electric Sound!

Is robie listening to Fancy's Come Inside?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1fQZg2oVno

beyond "mixes", stuff like Planet Rock and One More Shot pretty much solidify Robie's cred. Hip Hop Be-Bop Don't Stop, Play At Your Own Risk, Pack Jam, etc.

Rumors have it that Robies contributions have been understated while Bakers have been overstated.

Sounds about right. (Just listened to the full-length "Sub-Culture" remix and while it's a product of its time as the blog notes I always thought it was pretty amazing.)

xpost, also Bambaataa's "Looking for the Perfect Beat" and Freestyle - "Don't Stop the Rock".