Which are John Peel's 140 fave albums?

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fwiw, i doubt don covay's "leave him, part 2" was on the single. i suspect it only appeared on the album, but it's hard to tell. it is certainly a redundant piece of music.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 13 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

here are the covers/whatever you call the inside circle of a 7" i've got so far -

http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0NABPRQPGK9X278BH8Z488INE

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 13 November 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

and i am missing FAR more more 15 songs..

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 13 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

x-post: thanks

i'd be interested in those sleeve covers/art, tracer. any possibility of yousending them? i started looking for covers as well but i wasn't very successful. and got bored soon. where did you search? i just tried google image search and ebay.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Sunday, 13 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

that's the link, alex - click it!

yeah, i don't have any magic answer, i've just got a lot of free time this weekend. it is pretty crazy the stuff you find looking for stuff like this, though. for instance, pocket fishrmen may still be available on ebay here - http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=17646&item=4738445494&rd=1

also, this case study from the columbia law school web site about the legal disputes around "mojo workout" looks utterly bananas - http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/law/library/cases/case_Strachborneoarc.html

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 13 November 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

for paul lawton and anybody else.. look what i found - http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3SCA26QHFVWM103X4B9PAGZ3KF

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 13 November 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

The Scrugg A-side ("Will The Real Geraldine...") is available on "Lavender Popcorn", a CD compilation of John Kongos material:

http://www.sanctuaryrecords.co.uk/index.php?action=showproduct&productid=32854&l1=3&l2=0&l3=0&rt=&lastpage=

And I see the Gene Dozier song "Give The Women What They Want" is listed as the B-side somewhere here. Don't know if that's true but it's definitely the song that Peel considered the A-side – I remember him playing it following his broadcast of the Peelenium for 1975 (or thereabouts). It has an almighty funk groove and is worth tracking down. The song was originally recorded by the Isley Brothers circa 1969, but I don't think any version has seen the light of day on CD.

And what happened to the Toggery Five single? -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/friday_review/story/0,,362115,00.html

Felix M (Kimble), Monday, 14 November 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

"Within this sacred box, there's a Jagger-Richards composition, I'd Rather Be Out with the Boys, by mid-1960s Manchester no-hit wonders the Toggery Five"

Felix, that's a valid point. As we know this record box was its 'nth incarnation following the loss of several over previous years and it might just be that this Toggery Five single was one one he'd not got around to replacing yet. I suggest we add this to the list a recording that old was hardly going to suddenly fall out of favour with the man.

DomesticEmpire (johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com), Monday, 14 November 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

I just bet ya supergrass was in there, in fact i know it!

Mon Star2 (hydraulis2), Monday, 14 November 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

I'd had my eye on that Pocket Fishrmen single on ebay, but was hoping to check local sources before going that far.

patita (patita), Monday, 14 November 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I was looking at this particular auction (same seller has multiple copies at different prices):
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pocket-Fishrmen-The-Leader-is-Burning-7_W0QQitemZ4767199096QQcategoryZ306QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

thanks for putting together the cover art! I'd not thought of that before, but it's a good source of information/context of these records. I guess we can try to fill in the gaps there as well.

patita (patita), Monday, 14 November 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

Yo, Alex, no I didn't even see your last post. But to be clear, there was one error that the "holes" didn't account for. There was actually one error I found. I went so far as to include an HTML listing of all that in the torrent. But I found the biggest problem I had was with the "The" bands, not the holes.

Stan Meissner, Monday, 14 November 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I don't even remember what I thought the error was. Doesn't matter anyway. As I said, the alphabetization issue was what bugged me most, not the numbering.

And yeah, for the record, I was aware that Peel had duplicates, smarty pants.

Stan Meissener, Monday, 14 November 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

As a figure of speech, the concept of having, or not having, one's MOJO working is not something in which any one person could assert originality, or establish a proprietary right. See infra, p. 1404, et seq.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 14 November 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)

003A - Alan Price Set - I Put A Spell On You
006B - Ann Peebles - I've Been There Before
011B - Boards of Canada - Chinook
095A - Stanley Winston - No More Ghettos in America
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CU50Y35G81MT2WX7OZB22UDJL

Stoecker, Monday, 14 November 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

> whatever you call the inside circle of a 7"

that'll be 'The Label' 8)

peel is also being inducted to music hall of fame some time this week, there's a 3 hour show on ch4, about 10 minutes of which will be worth watching.

koogs (koogs), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

The Peel "Box" Documentary will be on Ch4 tonight, so tape/DVD it and add it to your box, you people.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

The Negatives - Stakeout.

By my reckoning, 108B on the original list :-}

http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WEZ7ET0EH5M62F65F9B7UJMDE

c.t., Monday, 14 November 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

082B - Rod Bernard - Pardon Mr Gordon

http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1DL13CJ07EOHP3M3VGG96G8BOU

c.t., Monday, 14 November 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

excellent work everyone…

any chance of a repost of
137: Rocket 455 - "Santa Ain't Comin Home For Christmas"?

the link just ain't working for me…

keefus (keefus), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Just saw the tracklisting for that show, above. He kinda liked "There's a man down there" there's another version of that track on there...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

repost:
137: Rocket 455 "Santa ain't comin home for christmas"

http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1IYKZ8G9J45VN0QQJWSOPD7T58

dumdum, Monday, 14 November 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

you're a star dum dum!

keefus (keefus), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Latest post has a couple of fine photographs of the box in John's home studio to download...

http://johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com/

DomesticEmpire (johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Tracer Hand!!!

Paul Lawton (Quartermass), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

you're welcome!

just to be clear about that sleeve art, i only included sleeves that i was reasonably sure were the actual singles themselves, rather than comps, albums, CDs, etc.

usually i really don't go for adding art, etc but it seems really nice with this project, as most of them are harshly-lit scanned photos of old dinged up seven inches.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Could someone please report The Dirtbombs - Cedar Point '76

(the link didn't seem to work for me. Thanks!)

tim h, Monday, 14 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

I can repost in a few hours if somebody hasn't beaten me to it by then. Fyi - for slsk'rs, every song that's been posted here is available there. A few different people have everything (or almost everything).

Thank you Domestic Empire for posting that show and pointing out the images of the box itself!

TRG (TRG), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Repost: Dirtbombs - Ceder Point '76
http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0N24D8FWV2IMX2KCR1R3N4BNXJ

Paul Lawton (Quartermass), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

REPOST:
The Dirtbombs - Cedar Point '76
http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2H8R9HEUSO35J1F5RM4LJDZGLP

Can people print REPOST so we can see at a glance it's a reposting request? Cheers :)

LOL - Paul you beat me to it you crafty bugger! Might as well post this now anyway.

DomesticEmpire (johnpeeleveryday.blogspot.com), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

Hey, is the torrent still going/updated? If not, is there any hope of getting those .zips of it up again on YSI? Even broken into halves, it would be handy (since I missed a couple days and now am faced with many, many files to get through YSI...)

js (honestengine), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

there is something sort of reassuring in realizing that some of this record box is real shite.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

Absolutely.

A little while ago, I started a thread about 'your singles box' which came to mind while watching the doc last night. Alongside the rare singles (VU, Mutantes, Monks) theres oddities like Cheech and chong, the Move's "I can hear the grass grow" funnily enough, and "Afternoon of the rhino".

I'd hate to have that selection as being truly representative of my taste, but then it wouldn't all fit into one box. Much like there being no Fall in this one.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

i think a lot of the 'shite' is in there for personal reasons, not that musical taste isn't all personal reasons.

nice to see sheila in The Vaults t-shirt. (in the book it mentions that john had planned to wear one when they got to machu picchu knowing that there'd be a lot of pictures taken there, his way of getting them exposure)

first time i'd seen moving footage from the wedding as well.

oh, and the Ken Colyers Jazzmen thing would appear to be the one that isn't the Capri track, but the other one.

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

1) That Beatles e.p. is indeed from USSR
2) That Misunderstood single, I'm fairly certain is the one that got reissued as part of a box set, early nineties, I believe.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

Off topic, but of interest:
Lost records 'fuel digital drive'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4436414.stm

"More than two billion records and CDs have gone missing from personal record collections in the UK, fuelling digital music sales, according to research. The survey of 1,000 adults found theft or friends failing to return CDs contributed to depleted collections."

Huh, tell me about it.....

Bring it back tomorrow, I promise!t overnight?, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but if they have gone from one collection, they go into another. So, net loss is zero.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

I had v. low expectations of the documentary, but it was good.

Of course whole swathes of the music Peel liked and promoted never used the 7" format.

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Was a little disappointed by the doc. I know they had a lot of 45s in his box, but the opening 20 mins was basically a White Stripes promo. Lots of unnecessary repetition too. Missed out whole swathes of the contents of the box too, eg: I'm dying to know why there are three(!!) Nilsson singles in there.

Still a v entertaining prog, but could have been much better. And good to hear Drag Racing again.

harvey.w (harvey.w), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

I am delighted that my band "The Negatives" single is in John's box (No 108). I accept that it is a surprise inclusion, but Detour Records (specialist mod/punk label) had previously described it as the number one UK punk record to own, which is good enough for me. Detour auctioned a vinyl 45 copy for £350 in the year 2000 and there were bids from Italy, Japan & Sweden amongst others. Detour records spent two years tracking the band down so they could re-release the songs on Bored Teenagers Volume 2 in 2000 on a compilation CD & vinyl LP. The total cost of the original recording was just £89.74 & only 1000 copies were made and sold. The punk population of Bradford bought 600 copies on the first day of release. I am aware that John Peel Played it on Radio 1 in 1979 and again in 2000 & 2004. The track was bootlegged on Bloodstains over Europe Vol 3 and a friend sold 400 casette copies to Israeli Soldiers who were heavily into Punk. All very strange!!!. The single "Love is Not Real" was a double A side with "Stakeout" on the flip side which I wrote. The single is listed at £40 in the Record Collector guide, which shows how much they know. I was lucky enough to meet John and I thanked him, not just for playing our record but for all the no hopers everywhere. I told him that I was glad we didn't sell more copies or otherwise it would never have become so collectible to such an extent that even collectors in Japan were aware of it. (I think he quite liked that). Three of the Negatives then formed the Mysterious Footsteps and we recorded tracks at Cargo Studio's in Rochdale. The engineer John Brierley played us a track he had recorded the previous day. It was only bloody "Love will Tear us a apart" by Joy Division, although I wouldn't have predicted it's legendary status from that first listen. In the pub next door to the studio was a lovely old lady who we spoke to and she was proud to tell us she was "Bill Oddies" mum. His single for John's Dandelion Label is also in the box which is a good point to stop this rambling. John told me that "Teenage Kicks" was still his number one song & that Medicine Heads "His Guiding Hand" was deeply personal to him. Only issue with the documentary was all the lovies finding comfort in picking out the singles they knew. They entirely missed the point that John would have looked through such a box to pick out the things he didn't know. God Bless Him - he was absolutely priceless and completely irreplaceable. PS I am happy that this music is alive & being shared!!!



Bob Robinson, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Bob - that's an amazing story, thanks for sharing it. And thanks for the great music. I think you're right about John going straight for the stuff he didn't know.

TRG (TRG), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

i really like those two the negatives punk songs and the relaxing rock & roll of the nightcaps which comes after. very nice. i think i slowly get into the mood for the box. as tracer i had and still have some reservations concerning a couple of songs but overall this is excellent stuff i would never have listened to without this thread. thanks for everyone participating.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

thanks to everyone participating, of course. sorry for my terrible english...

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

koogs that's exactly what i mean!!

bob, your recollections are just wonderful. it's really cool you could share that with us.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Bob for your story (and for wanting the music to be shared)!

patita (patita), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

I was contacted by Chris Leeds, drummer on the Coronation St single. He confirmed that it should be credited to the I-Royals and not Izzy Royal (quoting his email):
"It turns out that it is the record I thought it was - the single was passed on to Warners after we made it, originally on the Media Marvels label -when WEA took it over they decided to change the name for some reason.

Yes, I am extremely chuffed to be in JP's personal collection - but I
wonder if he, or anyone else realises it's not a Jamaican thing - though it's listed on a few internet sales sites as that - in fact it was made in London, and mixed by Dennis Bovell's studio guy."

He thinks the label changed the name so as not to be confused with I Roy.

patita (patita), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

A recap of what's missing.

19 A-sides:

002 Al Ferrier - I'm Not Drinking More
008 Arthur K Adams - Wildwood flower
027 Dreamland Express - Groovy
028 Easy Teeth - Car Noise
034 Firemen - Old smokie
039 Gene Dozier & The United Front - Give the women what they want
046 Jane Bond and The Undercover Men - Hot rod Lincoln
047 Jerry Byrd - Memories of Maria
052 Ken Colyer's Jazzmen - Isle of Capri (OR If I ever Cease To Love)
058 Marc Bolan talking to Stevie Dixon
069 Mike Spencer and the Cannibals - Nothing takes the place of you
072 Nilsson - Kojak Columbo
081 Revelino - Step on high
086 Sasha Caro - Grade 3 section 2
087 Scrugg - Will the real Geraldine please stand up and be countered
090 Sipho Bhengu - Tickey dopies
094 Spit Out - O from I
103 The Legion of Super-Heroes - The great name dropper part 1
110 The Ramrods - Zig zag


45 B-sides (several songs on one B-side only counted once):

005 Anemic Boyfriends - Bad Girls in Love
008 Arthur K Adams - It's a wild, wild, wild, wild wildwood flower
021 Clague (aka Siren) - I wonder where
022 Clefs of Lavender Hill - First tell me why
023 Cleveland Crochet - Drunkards dream
027 Dreamland Express - u.f.o
028 Easy Teeth - Her Blade
034 Firemen - Louie's theme
035 Freshmen - Bombing run
036 G L Crockett - Every hour, every day
037 G L Crockett - Did you ever love somebody
042 Greenhornes - Stayed up last night
043 Hooton 3 Car - Numena
046 Jane Bond and The Undercover Men - Come On Up
047 Jerry Byrd - Invitation
048 Jody Reynolds - Western movies
050 Johnny Adams - You're a lady
052 Ken Colyer's Jazzmen - St Phillip St Breakdown / Shine / Gentofte Blues (OR Bucket Got A Hole In It / Wildcat Blues / Wabash Blues)
054 Larry Bright - I'll change my ways
056 Lee Perry - Black smoke signal
058 Jennifer Sharp, Steve Harley & John Peel talking to Stevie Dixon 1977
063 Medicine Head - All for tomorrow
066 Mel and Tim - It hurts to want it so bad
068 Mickey Lee Lane - With your love
069 Mike Spencer and the Cannibals - Good guys
070 The Nice - Azrial
078 Pocket Fishrmen - Yr story
080 Ray Martin - Bell of the ball
081 Revelino - Memoreason
083 Roshell Anderson - Such a beautiful thing
086 Sasha Caro - Little maid's song
090 Sipho Bhengu - I saluti
094 Spit Out - Tan / Rot'n'roll
095 Stanley Winston - It's alright
099 The Big Three - If you ever change your mind
103 The Legion of Super-Heroes - The great name dropper part 2
105 The Mighty Avengers - Something they say
112 The Squirrels - Alone again
118 The Upsetters - Domino game
125 Rizzo - Cathy
135 2 Star Tabernacle - Lily White Mama / Jet Black Daddy (Andre Williams)
137 The Blowtops - Sidewalk Santa
138 The Real Pills - It's Almost December
140 XL-Capris - Dead bugies
141 Yami Bolo - ???

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:45 (twenty years ago)

DELETE
070B The Nice - Azrial!
as we already have it

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

Great story Bob.

Only adding: bear in mind that they probably did dig out stuff they didn't know, but the documentary needed the anecdotes from the stuff they did!

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

Can anyone post the documentary?

riley puckett, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)


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