defend the indefensible: Hall and Oates

do you sell the chocolate kisses part

balls sells but who's buying

"Mary Jane's Last Dance" is cool but ultimately I would also go with "Say It Isn't So"

It's basically ""Hot Fun in the Summertime," "All That Money Wants" and "Say It Isn't So."

no sorry i meant 'do i do' is my fave greatest hits addition, i've never had luck w/ hall & oates at karaoke, following hall's thread in 'say it isn't so' required more pathos than i had that night and i'd rather not speak about what happened when i did 'one on one'.

mookieproof otm - i've had more luck w/ megadeth

haha really? Hall is no good at pledging his troth. Part of what makes SIIS so easy to sing is channeling contempt.

Actually, I agree with balls - "Say It Isn't So" is tough to sing! It's like Rumpelstiltskin, he melody kind of evaporates on you if you're not Daryl Hall.

as for new songs on compilations, i think we are all forgetting something very important here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7twIF8PWic

or not

you guys know me, contempt ain't my bag.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lmHIbp9FyCg/Tf3TPuFiMFI/AAAAAAAAAKM/W7LOzSZJ-Dk/s1600/Ringo%2BStarr%2Bpeace_love.jpg

I'll tell you what's difficult: "One on One," as I learned in December. As embarrassing a pratfall as "Open Your Heart."

My worst karaoke snafu was doing Cameo's "Candy" and the given lyrics were only Larry's adlibs, not the main melody. Other than that, I just sometimes forget I can't pull off anything written for a high tenor. No MJ or Stevie for me. :(

Alfred, what is that making-of-No-Can-Do paragraph taken from? That's awesome. The muted guitar at the beginning of that song is one of my all-time favorite 80s guitar moments...

http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_hall_oates_cant/

http://abcnews.go.com/US/arrest-made-oates-bites-halls-face/story?id=17947753#.UXClghxDGd0

(your Maneater joke here...)

jesus. it's stories like these that make me feel grateful none of my neighbors are, currently, biting my face.

This is terrible:

Arrest Made After Oates Bites Hall's Face

D'oh... nevermind

THAT FUCKING PHOTO

NIGHTMARES. NIGHTMAAARRRRRES.

he's got a Gacy look about him too which doesn't help

ugggh

maneater

doh

flagged u for that fyi

:)

Hall & Oates should have been special celebrity guests on an episode of Miami Vice.

omigod this thread in the last third. I forgot!

I agree with your assessment, and maybe i should have chosen a more positive message from which to stake a flag.

This the my last day on ILM. This poll reveals just how much shitiness in musical taste permeates this fine upper-crust of musical pros. And it's not just these judgments; in 10 years of reading and posting, only a handful of meaningful discussions have helped me discover new music and reveal new understandings. You experts are just as unsophisticated the pablum devouring public, and my early respect for many contributors to this site has been beaten down under the girth of far too much asshole flesh. Good fucking riddance.

― suspecterrain, Thursday, May 2, 2013 9:07 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Personally, i view music as art, not product. Art, no matter how much critical consensus it garners, is still subjective to the individual participating with it.

― suspecterrain, Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:54 PM (4 months ago)

my early respect for many contributors to this site has been beaten down under the girth of far too much asshole flesh

^^^ passable board description, fumbles at the end though

i don't think "girth" means what he thinks it means

http://24.media.tumblr.com/10b91a493d33d87f5901763c5857f46e/tumblr_mrhbuhTyHb1qjbe0to1_500.jpg

is that Bob Mould Jr. behind Oates?

Coming to the UK in July for the first time in a decade.

Now if only I could find someone else who actually likes H&O...

How can you even hate Hall & Oates

http://www.diynetwork.com/daryls-restoration-over-hall/show/index.html

!

First I thought title meant he was wiping and replacing vocal tracks laid down by his erstwhile buddy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_University

And the last photo on the page is Hall & Oates.

I saw them live last night for the first time and sweet merciful jezus they were fantastic. I had heard they were great live but I guess I needed to see it with my own two eyes. The band is so tight and hearing all those 80's synth hits with a full band turns hearing them live into a new experience somehow, still equally as enjoyable.

Set list is pretty short on paper but they extended a lot of these songs into 10 min+ or more with sax and guitar etc, I Can't Go For That was easily 20 minutes iirc

Family Man
Maneater
Out of Touch
Say It Isn't So
You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
One on One
She's Gone
Sara Smile
Is It a Star
I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)

Encore:
Rich Girl
Kiss on My List
Private Eyes
You Make My Dreams

But they just had such a warm, relaxed vibe, and the audience was eating out of their hand from the first note of the first song.

It's funny because it was a double-bill with Tears For Fears, who were good. (Roland still sounds terrific. Kirk seemed to be having a bad night and sounded quite flat on a couple of the songs he sings solo.) But once the whole show was over it was hard not to compare the two, and the difference between the performances were pretty stark. Tears for Fears held a concert, and Daryl Hall and John Oates put on A Show.

how's Hall's voice holding up?

great! he doesn't hit as many of the high notes anymore - he saves those for one or two big moments, and kind of reworks his vocals to sing a little lower on a few songs, I think he still sounds really good.

this is from last month and pretty close to how he sounded last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXVa52MAdtY

also i gotta confess - i was crushing p hard on him by the end of the show. no explanation for it other than it's totally the voice. even with the indoor sunglasses and the corny hair-tossing, after they did 'one on one' i was like, 'welp I'm pregnant now'

leave him alone! he's a family man!

awww. yeah i'd actually dig seeing them live, which is something i rarely think about acts of their stature and generation.

totally. and they still seem to enjoy performing, or at least they are good at giving the audience that impression; that for me goes a really long way. they don't seem to be sleepwalking through the hits to get a paycheck; and having such a tight, talented band behind them creates a really warm fun vibe, much more of a 'shared' experience between the stage and the audience

in a way, it reminded me of seeing Kool and the Gang. like they care enough to perform WELL.

Hall will always get a pass from me because unlike some of his peers he is clearly a music nerd that just loves playing (and listening) to music, he's enthusiastic and committed and has a sense of humor about himself, and that goes a long way.

agree

they opened with Family Man and started his 'hey how ya doin' spiel to the audience and suddenly stopped and looked at Oates and was like, 'fuck, you know what? I think i sang the same verse twice. I did didn't i' *shrugs*
*laughs*

I mean the audience is eating out of his hand just with that.

after they did Sara Smile he looked out at the audience with this huge grin and slapped his hand on the top of the piano like 'goddamn man that was a good time'