defend the indefensible: Hall and Oates

well novels at one time were dismissed as the pastime of women and children. dunno about neophytes or the infirm.

Okay what the shit happened here.

And who is suspecterrain really, then? Because even Startrekman is in on the joke.

i am on iphone in taco shop. "i can't go for that" just came on the radio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

people are dancing on tables

tell us about Lionel Richie, Ned

xpost haha

Love will conquer all.

Lionel Richie is A Man. He sings about things.

and you looooooooooooooove him and you want to maaaarrrrry him

Don't we all. For we are truly in love. With you, Grrl.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jWNhyMUpjSE/SdyTlu2WbaI/AAAAAAAADPA/WUFY1tCB800/s400/lionel+richie+sculpture.jpg

What, you guys getting bored not having Geir to kick around anymore?

we are getting bored not having geir to kick around anymore

i mean he still posts here frequently

is geir back? i thought he'd disappeared...

(loving yr work on this thread btw balls)

Dhrupad chant, Tuvan throat music, Mississippi field hollers, hippie drum circles, essays, poetry, sculpture, painting...... Please clarify; what is the basis for not participating in these mediums as it relates to commercialism?

not how you spell pottery

Lionel Richie's last name has been mangled itt too

I remember the day when I was 15 and Cleveland's Tuvan throat singing FM station announced it was changing formats to all Hall & Oates/Captain & Tenille. Saddest day of my high school life.

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just an hour ago a link to an article regarding Duran and Japan was posted on this thread. The original article is posted here. Original Duran vocalist Stephen Duffy says in regards to "the scene" in 1979 as...

“It was exciting because we started the band at a point before music started repeating itself… since then music has become more or less derivative..."

lol case closed

IN OUR FACE

suspectterrain your whole stance on this issue has been reminding me of a story one of my best friends once told me. he was young & dumb and was working construction for an older guy. at some point, he decided to go on an extended rant about "country music" and how bad it all was and how stupid the people who listened to it were. after he was done, his boss looked at him and said with a mix of pity and scorn "why don't you say the only thing you CAN say about it, which is that YOU don't like it?" your assumptions of objectivitiy itt are particularly jarring coming from somebody who has been around the board for a while. there's a big difference between "I don't like this band and here's why" vs. "all the people who listen to this are stupid."

also, objectivity doesn't exist and I thought that had been common knowledge since the early 90's, get with it.

So the dumped.lead singer of a treading-water Duran sez music is derivative.

you don't appear to have read the entirety of the post; and as for those inbred country posers..... we need to save that for another time:)

fp

your terrain is suspect, sir

Duffy jumped from Duran, not the other way round. Talk about thread-drift.

.... and Stephen Duffy is a fantastic pop stylist.

I think you mean COMMERCE stylist

knowing it's just some sad middle aged durranie trolling kinda kills it, you'll never measure up to the queen

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This thread revive is full of magic and worms.

i heard Stephen Duffy made records to try and sell them so i can't take him seriously as an artist

did he form some kind of noize collective that I'm unaware of

.... and Stephen Duffy is a fantastic pop stylist.

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srs lmao at commentary on "the scene"

i listened to "voices," "private eyes" and "h2o" yesterday while driving to the city, so thanks to everyone for inspiring that.

helluva streak -- one of the most underrated of streaks if you toss in Big Bam Boom.

hadn't heard "I Can't Go For That" for a long time, & when it came on the airplane radio station last week I was startled by the dryness of the beat; hadn't ever really "gotten" why H&O charted on R&B radio before

and it was a demo!

Daryl Hall sketched out the basic song one evening at a music studio in New York City in 1981 after a recording session for the Private Eyes album. Hall began to play a bass line on a Korg organ, and sound engineer Neil Kernon recorded the result. Hall then came up with a guitar riff, which he and Oates worked on together. The next day, Hall and Sara Allen worked on the lyrics.[1]

suspecterrain has inspired me to, at long last, create the followup to POLLin' My Head Above Water: "Private Eyes" by Hall & Oates . Pop fans, I give you: How Does It POLL To Be Back: "Voices" by Hall & Oates !

oooh

yeah!

more on "I Can't Go For That"

“Remember the old Roland CompuRhythm box?” he asks. “I turned to the Rock and Roll 1 preset, sat down at a Korg organ that happened to be lying there and started to play this bass line that was coming to me. It's the old recording studio story: The engineer heard what I was doing and turned on the tape machine. Good thing, because I'm the kind of person who will come up with an idea and forget it. The chords came together in about 10 minutes, and then I heard a guitar riff, which I asked John, who was sitting in the booth, to play.”

“I remember that moment clearly,” says Oates. When we spoke, the relaxed and affable Oates had just dropped his 9-year-old son off at his math tutor and had plenty of time to talk on the cell phone before the lesson ended. Oates and his wife live in the mountains outside of Aspen, Colo., and homeschool their child. “The old Compurhythm had four presets: Rock 1, Rock 2, cha cha/samba and some other stupid beat. We both had them in our houses, and one was sitting in the studio.

“We cut everything live back then, but sometimes used the Roland box to come up with a tempo,” Oates continues. “Anyway, Daryl came up with this great bass line, using whatever sound happened to be on the organ, and Neil miked it and the drum machine.

“Daryl came up with the ‘B’ section chords, and then I plugged my 1958 Strat directly into the board, which was either an early SSL or a Trident. We were beginning to experiment with digital samplers — the Fairlight and Synclavier in particular — but were still recording analog. At any rate, Daryl sang a guitar part idea, I started to experiment with a muting thing and the part evolved on the spot.”

Did they think about adding another guitar part? “No, never!” Oates says. “When we play ‘I Can't Go for That’ in concert, I usually play some shimmery parts, but there was a leanness to the '80s sound that we were into. The Cars and other groups had that straight, simple eighth-note feel, and it was an influence on us; it was one of the cool things about '80s music. The '70s were Rococo, but punk and new wave flavored the '80s, and we responded to those styles.”

thx for the new dn suspect, er... rain

Excellent if overenthusiastic recounting by the late T-Bone Wolk of the Rock and Soul Part 1 sessions to record "Say It Isn't So" and "Adult Education." Reminded me of how integral Hall's eighth-note piano chords were to, say, "Kiss on My List" and "Private Eyes" and "One on One."

That's a good read, thanks.

"Say It Isn't So" is my favorite song recorded for a comp btw

Tough call between that and "Slip Slidin' Away," for me.