ILM's Now For Something Completely Different... 70s Album Poll Results! Top 100 Countdown! (Part 2)

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Then Ozzy found a leaf sweater than the stevia which sweetened the coffee after Anglican mass...

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder how many albums Fripp was involved in, no matter how tangentially, that placed in this poll.

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

Look at the face of 70s rock and you will see the face of Fripp staring back!!

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

You mean the face of Bob Fripp, International Lover PhD

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

from Toyah Wilcox University

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

I can't believe how tight they played during this time period, the live recordings of Fracture for instance are nightmarish

today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

52. AEROSMITH Rocks (2882 Points, 20 Votes, 1 #1)
RYM: #38 for 1976 , #2097 overall | Acclaimed: #396 | RS: #176

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Dave Hickey compares the teen crossover of the year to a Buick Roadmaster, and he's right -- they've retooled Led Zeppelin till the English warhorse is all glitz and flow, beating the shit out of Boston and Ted Nugent and Blue Oyster Cult in the process. Wish there were a lyric sheet -- I'd like to know what that bit about J. Paul Getty's ear is about -- but (as Hickey says) the secret is the music, complex song structures and that don't sacrifice the basic 4/4 and I-IV-V. A warning, though: Zep's fourth represented a songwriting peak, before the band began to outgrow itself, and the same may prove true for this lesser group, so get it while you can. A- -- R. Christgau

Whether or not Rocks is hot depends on your vantage point. If your hard-rock tastes were honed in the Sixties, as this band's obviously were, Aerosmith is a polished echo of Yardbirds' guitar rock liberally spiced with the Stones' sexual swagger. If you're a teen of the Seventies, they are likely to be the flashiest hard-rock band you've ever seen. While the band has achieved phenomenal commercial success, their fourth album fails to prove that they can grow and innovate as their models did.

The most winning aspect of Rocks is that ace metal prducer Jack Douglas and the band (listed as coproducers for the first time) have returned to the ear-boxing sound that made their second album, Get Your Wings, their best. The guitar riffs and Steven Tyler's catlike voice fairly jump out of the speakers. This initially hides the fact that the best performances here -- "Lick and a Promise," "Sick as a Dog" and "Rats in the Cellar" -- are essentially remakes of the highlights of the relatively flat Toys in the Attic. The songs have all the band's trademarks and while they can be accused of neither profundity nor originality, Aerosmith's stylized hard-rock image and sound pack a high-energy punch most other heavy metal bands lack.

Steven Tyler is the band's obvious focal point, a distinction earned primarily by his adaptation of the sexual stance that missed the young Jack Flash. On the rockers, his delivery is polished and commanding and sufficiently enthusiastic to disguise the general innnocuousness of the lyrics. On the riff-dominated songs, though, such as "Last Child" or "Back in the Saddle," he is prone to shrieks that don't bear repetition. Unlike Jagger, his vocal performance cannot save otherwise mediocre material.

The material is Rocks' major flaw, mostly pale remakes of their earlier hits, notably "Dream On," a first-album ballad that helped make the complete Aerosmith catalog gold. Aerosmith may have their hard-rock wings, but they won't truly fly until their inventiveness catches up to their fast-maturing professionalism. – John Milward, RS

Another band RS had little love for during their mid-70s heyday, and then reappraised after they had sold millions of records. (Actually, it would probably be more accurate to say that Aerosmith were a group that RS reviled in the '70s almost as a consequence of their success, and later put on a pedestal for the very same reason.) Wayne Robbins provided this predictable critique in the 1983 guide: "Lead vocalist Steven Tyler, with his puffy, pouty lips and salacious eyes, had the manner of his lookalike, Mick Jagger, but none of his command of song or movement."

I would imagine Aerosmith seemed pretty laughable - almost like a cartoon version of the Stones - when they first appeared in 1973. But their timing couldn't have been better: Aerosmith's rise perfectly coincided with the Stones' decline. In recent years, the Stones actually seem to be imitating Aerosmith, and not the other way around: the descending chorus on A Bigger Bang's "Let Me Down Slow," for example, sounds almost identical to Rocks' "Lick and a Promise."

Rocks was #176 on RS's 500 greatest albums list; Toys in the Attics was #228. – schmidtt, Rolling Stone's 500 Worst Reviews of All Time

Flushed with the success of Toys In The Attic, Aerosmith wasted no time or momentum in returning to the studio to cut what for many is their magnum opus. Rocks, recorded partly at their Wherehouse rehearsal space and at the Record Plant in New York, was fueled by the excesses that would prove to be their near-undoing. But with the help of Jack Douglas, theband managed to focus their talents like never before, creating an aptly titled package of gems.

More cohesive than Toys..., Rocks also features a richer, tougher sound -- the downright dangerous guitar combination of Joe Perry and Brad Whitford is spurred on by the sleazy rhythm section of Tom Hamilton and Joy Kramer, making tracks like "Rats In The Cellar" and "Back In The Saddle" send sparks.

At the center of it all is Steven Tyler's determined, devilish howl -- a vocal style that earned him the moniker "The Demon of Screamin'." On "Get The Lead Out," Tyler requested the support of a singer from the Metropolitan Opera on the refrain (making one wonder what happened to the singer's career after a session that must have shredded a once-fine voice).

The lyrics deal with extremes, whether it is sex ("Back In The Saddle"), drugs ("Combination"), or fame ("A Lick And A Promise") -- there is either too much or too little, typically at the same time. The subject matter is fitting for a band whose predilections scared the most drug-addled musicians in the business, leading them to dub Tyler and Perry the Toxic Twins. -- Tim Sheridan, 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die

Few albums have been so appropriately named as Aerosmith's 1976 classic Rocks. Despite hard drug use escalating among bandmembers, Aerosmith produced a superb follow-up to their masterwork Toys in the Attic, nearly topping it in the process. Many Aero fans will point to Toys as the band's quintessential album (it contained two radio/concert standards after all, "Walk This Way" and "Sweet Emotion"), but out of all their albums, Rocks did the best job of capturing Aerosmith at their most raw and rocking. Like its predecessor, a pair of songs have become their most renowned -- the menacing, hard rock, cowboy-stomper "Back in the Saddle," as well as the downright viscous funk groove of "Last Child." Again, even the lesser-known tracks prove essential to the makeup of the album, such as the stimulated "Rats in the Cellar" (a response of sorts to "Toys in the Attic"), the Stonesy "Combination," and the forgotten riff-rocker "Get the Lead Out." Also included is the apocalyptic "Nobody's Fault," the up-and-coming rock star tale of "Lick and a Promise," and the album-closing ballad "Home Tonight." With Rocks, Aerosmith appeared to be indestructible.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

Why did Kiss outsell Aerosmith in the 70s? Aerosmith were so superior

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

So ZZ Top is gonna play Cleveland on August 24 at...Tiger Stadium.

less Shin, more Stubbs (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

Hehe I was gonna post that gig poster on FB and ask Chuck if he was going

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

Woah, Epitaph (the one by Judas Preist) is playing now and it totally sounds like a Queen song. I wonder if they threw that in there on purpose with all the harmonies and piano just in case no one cottoned to the whole face-melting riff thing and needed to switch up styles again later.

That's my theory about JP -- they were always far more concerned with commercial success than most other metal bands, and far more studio oriented. It seemed like they were always there to capture the sound of the cutting-edge hard rock zeitgeist, not really be trendsetters.

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

yes Rocks! one of the albums I can point to whenever I make my argument that "Aerosmith did indeed once rock and not suck!"

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

KISS had a better stage show, obviously!! You weren't going to a concert, you were going to an EVENT!

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

did the merch table exist in the 70s? That would explain everything.

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

You didn'y get Gentle Giant lunchboxes off your dad?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

lol

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

51. THROBBING GRISTLE 20 Jazz funk Greats (2917 Points, 25 Votes)
RYM: #135 for 1979 | Acclaimed: #1804

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Twenty Jazz Funk Greats breaks away from D.o.A.'s stark bleakness in an attempted truce between the group's radical attitudes and pop music, removing the cutting edge from their calculated chaos but offering more accessibility. -- Trouser Press


review
by John Bush

It's a break in the clouds from Throbbing Gristle's pummeling noise and a first glimpse at the continuing pop influence on the TG/PTV axis, but 20 Jazz Funk Greats still isn't best described by its title. If there is such a thing as a funky Throbbing Gristle LP, however, this could well be it. "Hot on the Heels of Love," "Still Walking" and "Six Six Sixties" add only occasional bits of distortion between the rigid sequencer lines. 20 Jazz Funk Greats is the best compromise between TG's early industrial aesthetic and the reams of industrial-dance and dark synth-pop groups that used the album as a stepping stone to crossover appeal.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

xp Kiss were marketed to a much younger demographic than Aerosmith

Brad C., Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

pre-teens?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

Who were Throbbing Gristle marketed to?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

a much more pretentious demographic than Aerosmith

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

True, when I was in 4th grade, I knew at least two kids who were KISS fanatics (9-10 year-olds in 1978-9), and I probably didn't know who Aerosmith were yet.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

Who were Throbbing Gristle marketed to?

jazz-funksters obv

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

Can't believe that album isn't available on spotify. GET IT TOGETHER PEOPLE!

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

I've thought for a while that Kiss may have been the worst musicians to achieve that level of success.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

Worse than Oasis? or do you mean 1970s?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Mind you, Kiss never got anywhere near the level of Oasis here (and vice versa)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

worst ever selling Donington was headlined by Kiss.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

the rest are mostly just horror movie plots turned into songs without any clear moral message

I actually think "Paranoid" is weirdly insightful about depression (not paranoia)!: e.g. "All day long I think of things but nothing seems to satisfy" is a very unusual thing to say but very apt re depressive rumination, more so than most pop/rock writing on the subject.

xxxpost I meant of all time.

Worldwide, Oasis is nowhere near Kiss's sales figures, surely?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

I've thought for a while that Kiss may have been the worst musicians to achieve that level of success.

That was Throbbing Gristle

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

ARE YOU READY FOR THE TOP 50?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

music for pre-teens with adults on the sleeves vs music for adults with pre-teens on the sleeves

today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

Direct Link to poll recap & full results

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

Did Kiss sell anything outside the USA? They had belated hits in the UK but well after their heyday (xxp) I knew one guy at school who was into Kiss

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

TG almost making the top 50 on this poll is pretty sweet

today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

lets do this thing!!!!!

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

No I think KISS was pretty much a US thing. Maybe South America liked them? IDK.

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

Kiss had 2 hits here Crazy Nights and that song from Bill & Ted. They do play places like SECC and Wembley Arena but certainly not stadiums (unlike The Eagles who can even sell out Stadiums in Edinburgh)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

but weirdly I do know a lot of Kiss fans who probably grew up on them in the 70s/80s as they read sounds/kerrang.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

Kerrang mustve got people checking out their older stuff as they were growing up. Of course there was still a big cult of heavy rockers back in the 70s pre-kerrang days who were still into this stuff even if it wasnt mainstream

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

Mark e is a fan (theres a lot on ilx)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

50. SOFT MACHINE Third (2920 Points, 19 Votes, 1 #1
RYM: #20 for 1970 , #441 overall | Acclaimed: #650

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Robert Wyatt's light touch imbues these pleasant experiments with their own unique pulse, but only because the music is labeled rock is it hailed as a breakthrough. It does qualify as a change of pace--on the group's last album three musicians put seventeen titles on two sides, while on this one eight musicians put four on four. But though Mike Ratledge's "Out-Bloody-Rageous," to choose the most interesting example, brings together convincing approximations of Terry Riley-style modular pianistics and John Coltrane-style modal sax (Hugh Hopper has Jimmy Garrison's bass down perfect), Riley and Coltrane do it better. Only Wyatt's "Moon in June" is eccentric by the standards of its influences--which must be why it's hard to name them all. B -- R. Christgau

Psychedelic London hatched just two bands of note: Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd and the Soft Machine, and only the Soft Machine had any musical intelligence. To lock into their world was to receive an education: following them diligently led a young listener directly to Terry Riley, Messaien, Cecil Taylor, Coltrane, electronic music, and British jazz (at one point Keith Tippett's entire front line was in the group). By turns austere, charming and hot, hot, hot, Third, recorded 1970 and featuring an augmented Ratledge-Hopper-Wyatt-Dean line-up, was their finest hour. Wyatt's conversationally intimate "Moon In June" balanced the labyrinthine complexities of Ratledge's writing and the jazzier thrust of Hopper's "Facelift". Saxophonist Elton Dean and Ratledge, a one-of-a-kind organist, delivered the knockout solos. -- SL, THE WIRE's THE HUNDRED BEST RECORDS OF ALL TIME



review
[-] by Peter Kurtz

The Soft Machine plunged deeper into jazz and contemporary electronic music on this pivotal release, which incited the Village Voice to call it a milestone achievement when it was released. It's a double album of stunning music, with each side devoted to one composition -- two by Mike Ratledge, and one each by Hopper and Wyatt, with substantial help from a number of backup musicians, including Canterbury mainstays Elton Dean and Jimmy Hastings. The Ratledge songs come closest to fusion jazz, although this is fusion laced with tape loop effects and hypnotic, repetitive keyboard patterns. Hugh Hopper's "Facelift" recalls "21st Century Schizoid Man" by King Crimson, although it's more complex, with several quite dissimilar sections. The pulsing rhythms, chaotic horn and keyboard sounds, and dark drones on "Facelift" predate some of what Hopper did as a solo artist later (this song was actually culled from two live performances in 1970). Robert Wyatt draws on musical ideas from early 1967 demos done with producer Giorgio Gomelsky, on his capricious composition "Moon in June." Lyrically, it's a satirical alternative to the pretension displayed by a lot of rock writing of the era, and combined with the Softs' exotic instrumentation, it makes for quite a listen (the collection Triple Echo includes a BBC broadcast recording of this song, with different albeit equally fanciful lyrics). Not exactly rock, Third nonetheless pushed the boundaries of rock into areas previously unexplored, and it managed to do so without sounding self-indulgent. A better introduction to the group is either of the first two records, but once introduced, this is the place to go.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

One of THE great inner gatefold sleeves!

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

Whose bare feet are those I wonder?

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

a disgusting hippy probably

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

And who's that at the back half hidden?

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

now that's a good way to bring in the top 50!

Everybody wants a piece of the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

Someone's meaning to sneak up on Wyatt and steal his killer shoes (xp)

today's tom soy yum, mean mean thai (Spectrist), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

Now I can see where Mark Nason rips off those ankle boot designs from.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 18:10 (eleven years ago) link


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