Sonic Youth: Classic or Dud/S&D?

i didn't! i saw them on the daydream nation don't look back tour and about twenty seconds into teen age riot i got clunked on the side of the head hard enough that the earplug in my opposite ear popped out and got lost in a sea of feet, so i had to head to the back and spend the night with a finger in my ear. i suppose that left me with some slightly negative sentiments, which i suppose have now dissolved.

Daydream Nation was my first SY, and a tough entry point it seemed to me at the time. The transition from punk rock, which was still good old fashioned rock and roll, to this noisescape that referenced rock but seemingly ironically, was tough. It was intimidating, like a sonic minefield or something. "Providence" was the only track that didn't make me nervous. But then after a few months it clicked and I was on the other side and ever since then, good old fashioned rock and roll has been harder to get into.

^^^^ may contain traces of peanuts, gluten and revisionist history

After I fell in love with Dirty in high school, a classmate copied a couple of the older albums for me. But on Daydream Nation, the tape cut off right after 'Hyperstation'. For years I wondered about the third part of the Trilogy. I was SO disappointed when I finally heard 'Eliminator Jr.' - I can't stand that song.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/db6313855972a5e83896da699d84249d/tumblr_mk0ylcipoC1qkqoo4o2_500.jpg

The Murray Street-Sonic Nurse-Rather Ripped era is my favorite example of bands making fantastic music into their forties and fifties.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, March 22, 2013 8:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And, relatedly, J., Lou and Murph have been doing rather well at that on their last few records.

Not to mention the great new Wire.

Not to mention the continuing adventures of Nomeansno.

in high school DDN seemed way noisier & weird. Listening now I'm like, wtf was I so turned off by. This is RAD

http://www.metmuseum.org/events/programs/spectrum/street?eid=A001_%7b5F96B3AD-D976-4BDF-95DC-1653D756003E%7d_20130325102114

For anybody who's interested, Thurston Moore will be playing at the Metropolitan Museum on Monday, April 15. He provided the music for a video that I acquired for the Met and is the centerpiece of the show I curated that will be up through May 27. He will be performing in front of a projection of the video in our big auditorium...tickets are $22 each.

Kim Gordon will be at the MCA in Chicago tomorrow with White/Light (who are awesome) for free.

http://www.elle.com/pop-culture/celebrities/kim-gordon-sonic-youth-profile

so who is the the girlfriend of Moore?
which is the ex of O'rourke?(!?)

all the answers, tonight at E!

shouldn't she be wearing pants

hahaha imagine thurston going to marriage counseling

only in the house
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Why did I think that article would give any clues as to whether there would be another SY album or not.

ha, I was hoping to read something about that as well, looking less likely now for sure.

because it's in ELLE - a serious music magazine.

it's sure not sounding like it.

they could make a (good) record without Gordon (but now without Moore of course)

not

Lee + Steve + Watt + Mascis album plz, Ciccone Youth 2

I know it'll never happen, but eh daydreams

if it will happen, it will probably be shit, so maybe it's better keep the fantasy

true

a record w/o Kim is not Sonic Youth, as they and anyone else should know

OTM

OTM

they can call it something else but at least it has the potential of being good somehow

you can otm how much you want, but we all know a record of Sonic Youth/whatever without Kim, will be hyped as fuck all over, even here.

hey i'll check out almost anything any of them do outside the group, in any combination or individually, as i always have. if the whole band minus Kim went and did the most SY-ish thing they could under another name, though, that would leave a bad taste in my mouth.

any album worthy of the name ought to have Kim involved, though if she declined an they started calling themselves something like "Thurston Moore's Sonic Youth" I would lol

like any good oldies circuit act etc

"Thurston Moore's Sonic Midlife Crisis" more like

"Some years ago, a woman Gordon declines to name became a part of the Sonic Youth world, first as the girlfriend of an erstwhile band member and later as a partner on a literary project with Moore."

http://flowersandcreampress.com/about/ ?
http://www.ecstaticpeacelibrary.com/ ?

I'm curious which "Chicago art school" Coco is currently attending. I mean, I'd guess the Art Institute, but maybe Columbia College?

i'm guessing eva prinz is the other woman, with very little basis

i'm guessing eva prinz is the other woman, with very little basis

Oh, your first link made me think it was Elaine Kahn.

yeah i mean it says she lives in northampton

Why did I think that article would give any clues as to whether there would be another SY album or not.

― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, April 22, 2013 2:53 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha, I was hoping to read something about that as well, looking less likely now for sure.

― my mental killfile seems to be working (sleeve), Monday, April 22, 2013 2:54 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

because it's in ELLE - a serious music magazine.

― nostormo, Monday, April 22, 2013 2:55 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've read a lot worse in SERIOUS music magazines, enjoyed the article

why does sonic youth need to continue? they were a band for a long time

about eva prinz:
thats the rumor -

http://www.metafilter.com/112516/Sonic-Life

it has nothing to do w/ elle's ability to cover music, i think SM was just hoping there'd be some concrete reference to the band's future or lack thereof

oh ha i didn't even see that kahn lives in northampton. there are a lot more photos of thurston and prinz together and a little bit of internet gossip linking them, that's why i guessed it was her.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mFZW2cdYdzw/TJksKqf5JYI/AAAAAAAACcs/iVmkXt6rqyk/s1600/Thurston.Eva.Krasilcic.blog.jpg

"she makes me feel young again"

Phenomenal article, and all the comments about how Kim inspired the men in her circle to be better men rang very true.

enjoyed reading that elle profile. no great revelations, but a fine survey and tribute, and it sounds like she's doing okay (for whatever that's worth). looking forward to whatever comes next from all parties. agree that it would be kind of gauche for the band to continue on as sy without her, but a name's worth a lot and theirs more than most, so i wouldn't be too surprised.

yeah they really wouldn't though

yeah they wouldn't.

whatever they do, i'm very skeptical of another really GREAT sy-related record in the future

her interest in Karen Carpenter, Madonna, and, more recently, Britney Spears lent them depth)

Her interest in them -- her rethinking of them -- has nothing to do with lending them depth.

something sort of melancholic about the fact that this iconic avant garde/feminist couple broke up in this cliched midlife crisis kind of way