Although I'm not sure there's anywhere near as much to this album as The-Dream's, which is remarkably dense, especially by comparison.
― i and i overstand ilx bomboclaat formatting n ting (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
"Out of the Blue" is the sleeper cut on this album for me... such a smooth track.
― Pregnant M.I.A. (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 01:11 (fifteen years ago) link
i know what you mean, Rev, there are some lines on "Diamond Girl" that always struck me as pretty douchebaggy ("I could be with any fine girl instead of you," "I'm a lead mean, you could be my co-star"), but that hasn't overcome my initial impression of him as a talented corny/nerdy studio rat who does vaguely desperate stuff like juking the stats for his YouTube channel, which somehow makes him more likable or tolerable to me. whereas i really just get the heebie jeebies from The-Dream, even though i sometimes like his music he seems like the biggest talentless fraud with zero charisma imo.
― some dude, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm completely with ships here. really the only parts that bug me are the things like ^above which are kinda wtf, because the rest of his lyrics (that i remember anyway) strike me as much more thoughtful and well-intended.and i think i like him for the opposite reasons that j0rdan said before lol, i find a lot of it to be really carefully and tightfully arranged. and yeah the dude can just write hooks. i still can't really put my finger on why gibberish makes me feel the way it does (good), but it's my favorite song still and i'll have to put more thought into it. though i havent really loved an 09 album yet, i've quite liked a bunch and this might be my favorite so far.
― jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 03:29 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f14/snouts/ryanlezza.gif
― turnover-friendly doubledribble (The Reverend), Sunday, 15 February 2009 05:13 (fifteen years ago) link
i was thinking about this today listening to him, and
impression of him as a talented corny/nerdy studio rat who does vaguely desperate stuff like juking the stats for his YouTube channel, which somehow makes him more likable or tolerable to me
this. along these same lines, when he uses bad grammar in his lyrics (not that often but still), it's really funny and obviously self-conscious (since dude has a 1600 SAT and is a harvard alum) and is really endearing to me.
― Jewish Lager (k3vin k.), Sunday, 15 February 2009 05:31 (fifteen years ago) link
his phrasing is very cassie. i like the melodies and production on the album, but honestly can't help but HEAR cassie performing this stuff circa her first album. it sounds nothing like the brilliance she's been leaking lately, but the songs and space in them and the rush of words and pauses are all very reminiscent of Cassie (2006) album tracks.
― the other Alex in MTL, in fact (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 15 February 2009 06:30 (fifteen years ago) link
uh oh.. tis the cassie brigade
― turnover-friendly doubledribble (The Reverend), Sunday, 15 February 2009 06:41 (fifteen years ago) link
http://graphics.boston.com:80/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/02/06/1202335469_8686/499w.jpg
― big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 15 February 2009 08:21 (fifteen years ago) link
kinda wish I got that ref
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 15 February 2009 08:40 (fifteen years ago) link
cult of cassie on ilm
― LOOK WHAT I BRING TO THE TABLA (deej), Sunday, 15 February 2009 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry. i wasn't trying to be a cassie brigader at the moment. i just meant it's very obvious that ryan leslie wrote much of both albums. the meter and the phrasing and the rhythm of the lyrics/vocals strike me as very similar. i quite like a lot of the r.les album on its own merits - it's good.
the intent of the comment was more...in the same way that I can hear ne-yo's tone/phrasing/standard tropes in songs that he writes for other people, leslie has a very specific type of song style/structure that isn't that common in the genre as a whole.
― the other Alex in MTL, in fact (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 16 February 2009 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link
care to elaborate on that? it's an interesting point
― Jewish Lager (k3vin k.), Monday, 16 February 2009 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link
whoops, didnt realize you were the one who mentioned cassie...nevermind, makes sense
― Jewish Lager (k3vin k.), Monday, 16 February 2009 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link
cassie getting brought up on the r-les thread should really not surprise anyone, and would be pertinent regardless of cassie hype kru
― lex pretend, Monday, 16 February 2009 09:46 (fifteen years ago) link
fwiw she would perform 100% of the songs on his album better than he does
― lex pretend, Monday, 16 February 2009 09:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I think his style seems to hang on these awkwardly swung phrasings, lines starting mid-beat and stuff, but in a really poised way, nothing loose about it.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 16 February 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link
http://sobs.com/newsletter/images/R_n_b_Soul/2009/ryanleslie.jpg
yay can't wait
― half troll half biscuit (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
late on this, but krys ivory:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snUJcQuHy-Q
― it must be the weed (Tape Store), Thursday, 18 June 2009 07:12 (fourteen years ago) link
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/211299.jpgfrom california, a cancer survivor (this is her life story according to the internet)
― it must be the weed (Tape Store), Thursday, 18 June 2009 07:16 (fourteen years ago) link
guyz, check out this old beat:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0BM3hlQwP0
― it must be the weed (Tape Store), Thursday, 18 June 2009 08:07 (fourteen years ago) link
a few hours later, i'm really digging that krys ivory song. she has a new look, wow:
http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl2/33/330044/24_2009/33f99cb3d1f78157_KRYS.jpg
― it must be the weed (Tape Store), Thursday, 18 June 2009 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link
wow is one way to put it...
i don't really like r-les when he raps, like at all, so i'm not even gonna let this grow on me. still will rep for the album tho
― dat nigga kelmar (k3vin k.), Thursday, 18 June 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link
New album Transition this fall... first single "You're Not My Girl" produced by the Neptunes (supposedly...):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFCtSEbzkY
― Monday Nite Tranny Party (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 2 July 2009 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link
ooh nice.
― a ho (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 July 2009 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link
leslie stays making hot beats
― rembrandt what (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 July 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link
produced by the Neptunes (supposedly...):
― zzz (deej), Thursday, 2 July 2009 08:22 (fourteen years ago) link
i didnt mean this song specifically - i can read
― rembrandt what (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 July 2009 08:35 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqQmurICzychttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH8xjx4jOf8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvFps1j-Iro
new album is shaping up to be great, I'm loving practically all of the leaks...
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 16 July 2009 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.9937/title.ryan-leslie-debuts-transition-says-it-was-all-for-a-girl
Album release date: Nov. 3Track List1. Never Gonna Break Up2. Something That I Like (feat. Pusha T)3. Zodiac4. Is It Real Love5. Sunday Night6. You're Not My Girl7. To The Top8. Nothing9. Guardian Angel10. All My Love11. I Choose You
― Oy!J da Jewman (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link
You're Not My Girl is a great slice of post-Neptunes funk. All My Love and Something That I Like are also A++. We'll see if he can actually pull off two great album in under a year. Hope so.
― Oy!J da Jewman (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link
His solo stuff is really good, but it's not as good as his work with Cassie. That whole album is great, but "Just One Nite" is really hitting me hard today.
― got that candy zing (Tape Store), Friday, 9 October 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
damn, pumped for this
― jackie off the chain (k3vin k.), Friday, 9 October 2009 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link
mildly so
― hood acumen (The Reverend), Friday, 9 October 2009 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah def excited for this - good for 5 or 6 out and out bangers at worst
― it takes a nation of 51 to hold us back (J0rdan S.), Friday, 9 October 2009 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link
this is out there and very good
― booth, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:23 (fourteen years ago) link
whoaaa
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:24 (fourteen years ago) link
this has been such a crazy month
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link
too lazy to take these thoughts and make them a cohesive post
mei'm just listening thru laptop speakers right now butyou know, it's weirdi get this feeling that he's obv a technically great musician, his arrangements are greatbut... there's something that doesn't totally grasp me about his musiche might be a boring lyricist or personality maybe idkthis album is good tho, it's really glitzy, almost cheesy in places, but it's a bit funkierk3vinyeah he's definitely a boring lyricist - i realy like the first one but there's this disparity b/w the great beats and the kinda bland lyrics he singsit doesnt bother me too much tho, like you said i'm basically a fan of his music firstit might be telling that my favorite song of his is "gibberish", which doesnt really have any lyrics to speak ofmeIT'S FUNNY THAT YOU MENTION THATk3vinhe's more than capable of creating atmospheres and moods through his arrangements, and yeah he kinda trips over his own feet occasionallymethis is the last paragraph of my popmatters review of the first albumHe ends with his most left-field track, “Gibberish”. The song finds Leslie using AutoTune to turn his vocals into soup and to muddle his lyrics completely beyond recognition. The commentary—overtly placing the success of the song solely on the melody and arrangement—is if not slyly intentional, then ironically emblematic. Naturally, it’s the prettiest song on the album.k3vinotmmethis new album def has more complex and interesting arrangements than the first albumseems more cohesivebut we'll seetrying to place my finger on why it doesn't grab mei'm trying to think about him in relation to ne-yok3vini wasnt huge on "i'm not your girl", i'm hoping itll hook me more in album contextne-yo's a different kind of dude...i think he's mad overrated melodically but hs lyrics tend to be pretty good - he's very descriptive and specific and for me, tends to avoid banality in that respectmeha there is a real \m/ guitar solo on one of these songsit's kind of hilariousk3vinoh dearmeit's like hearing a hair metal solo from someone else's headphonesi like it a lot thok3vinhaah okmeyeah i mean, the hyper-specifity of ne-yo doesn't grab me either necessarilyi mean like, i guess leslie could never write a song like "mad"not sure if he could ever write one line as sweeping in its succinctness and otmness as "i don't want to go to bed mad at you"leslie is wordier but it doesn't bring much to the table maybe? idki should post about thisk3vinto a certain extent lex is right w/ his criticisms of lesliehe likes his music but thinks he's an incapable frontmanbut i guess for me it doesnt bother me that he's not this great personality, though i'll never like him as much as, say, teriusi think we had a conversation about this months ago iirc - he's kind of endearing in his over-earnestness and in that he seems to be trying way too hardmaybe that was shipleyin my review i cited a line from "I.R.I.N.A.": "i may not speak your language, but i know just what to say"basically said that the line would be much more effective imo if it were reversed, but that it's clear he's trying and so he gets a pass for thatmethe thing is, i can't really imagine a more "dynamic" singer singing these songsi can't picture what that would add, if anythingi think he writes his songs with himself in mindlike there's not that much room for freewheeling vocallybut maybe he just chooses not to because he can'tk3vinmaybe that problem lies in the fact that he's the dude that writes the songs - someone else could come up with something totally different w/ the equivalent beat
― a goon boy (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 03:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i think the problem is that he's singing the songs and cassie isn't
― ben folds' cover of "such great heights" (Tape Store), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link
('cassie' could also be replaced with, like, 'krys ivory' or whoever, though cassie is still probably the best voice for leslie)
― ben folds' cover of "such great heights" (Tape Store), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link
whomeverrr
THIS LEAKED? Jeez. Bad night to be out on the town. Finding it now.
― 7borad dudes get sb'd, frequently. (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 04:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Liking way more than the first album, initially. I'm only about a third of the way in tho.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link
she'ssss got that somethingshe's got that sooomethingthat i liiiike
― k3vin k., Sunday, 1 November 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link
come on guys, this album is hot
― k3vin k., Monday, 2 November 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah but not in a way you get all excited about up front. ur sposed to realise that all the songs are in ur head six months later and be like "hey remember this turns out it was awesome" IMO
― plaks (I know, right?), Monday, 2 November 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link
still waiting for that to happen with the first album tbh
― some dude, Monday, 2 November 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link
honestly this album's even less immediate - it's darker, bassier, more contemplative. it's a total winter record
― k3vin k., Monday, 2 November 2009 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link
dude needs to STOP rapping though, real talk
― k3vin k., Monday, 2 November 2009 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link