i can't listen to the last two cure albums, they are screechy awful noises. bloodflowers was just boring but sometimes some of the songs pop in my head for some weird reason.
I liked Wish.
― akm, Friday, 22 March 2013 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
Head On The Door always gets robbed in these things.
― piscesx, Friday, 22 March 2013 12:27 (eleven years ago) link
lol who voted WMS, fess up
― Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 22 March 2013 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ 7 protest votes
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
Quite amazed by those results
― OutdoorFish, Sunday, 24 March 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
Tbh what I really want The Cure to do is release an album full of songs like "Lost" and "The Scream" so awful screechiness is basically what I want from them right now
― Darth Icky (DJP), Sunday, 24 March 2013 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
This is still my favorite Cure song. I wish I was at this show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tqK5BtEm5A
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 24 March 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
Really not sure what I would want a great new Cure album to sound like tbh.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 24 March 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
Something good yet different would be nice
― OutdoorFish, Sunday, 24 March 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
I will say that "Freakshhow" works much better than it should, especially live
― Darth Icky (DJP), Sunday, 24 March 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not trying to sound controversial here, but, honestly, I don't really care for a new Cure album.
Then again, I believe that most bands are only good for a few albums, if that. There are very, very, very few bands with extensive discographies that release great record after great record. Put another way, there are few bands who've produced 'timeless' records. Especially since 'greatness' is just so susceptible to shift from period to period/generation to generation.
The Cure is a good example. But maybe it's because I'm no longer a big fan of them as I was before.
Even if they did something like 17 Seconds, which is my favourite album by them, it would seem they'd be doing it to please a crowd instead of authentically producing music, which is something I favour.
After Wish, I became disconnected with the band's music. I only like a few songs post-1992.
― kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Sunday, 24 March 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
I agree with you. I was being hypothetical.
― OutdoorFish, Sunday, 24 March 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
I would never put it in my top 10 but I always say I would like them to release an album full of songs like Trap, ie non fussy guitar power pop
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 24 March 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
a post-Wish 'Best Tracks' poll is i'd something i'd like to see. i became very quickly disenchanted with them after their just-before Wild Mood Swings set at Glastonbury 1995 which was the most turgid thing ever. have never bothered with them much since. once Porl was done with them, so was i.am i missing much i wonder?
― piscesx, Sunday, 24 March 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
once Porl was done with them, so was i.
you didn't come back when Porl came back?
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 25 March 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
I was at the '95 show. Not good.
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 25 March 2013 00:37 (eleven years ago) link
a post-Wish 'Best Tracks' poll is i'd something i'd like to see.
this!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 25 March 2013 05:11 (eleven years ago) link
My favorite post-Wish songs:
LostLabyrinthWantTrapNumbThe 13thGoing NowhereSpilt MilkThis MorningThe ScreamIt's OverUnderneath the StarsOut of this WorldThe Loudest SoundThe Last Day of SummerThe PromiseAdonisOceanIt Used To Be MeAll Kinds Of StuffThe Real Snow WhiteThe Hungry GhostSleep When I'm DeadFakeTreasureBare39Watching Me Fall
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 25 March 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
not really narrowing it down
here's a POV, in descending order of greatness
1) Watching Me Fall2) 393) The Promise4) Want5) Labyrinth
― delete (imago), Monday, 25 March 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
I always wanted them to release an album of songs like 'It's Not You' and 'Doubt'.
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 25 March 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
Post-1992 songs that are okay:
TreasureBareA Pink DreamMaybe SomedayBloodflowers (this one really doesn't do it for me, though)
Bloodflowers the album was one I almost got into, but did not stand the test of time. The WMS Robert Smith still seemed somewhat genuine (as genuine as Robert Smith could be in a theatrical kind of way), but by Bloodflowers, he was just a parody of his stereotypical self. I remember seeing his photos. Kind of felt sad for the man.
― kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
Shit I forgot Home
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
Here's the top 20 post-Wish tracks as voted in the ballot last year:
1. Burn2. The 13th3. Want4. Watching Me Fall5. (I Don't Know What's Going) On6. The End Of The World7. Mint Car8. Lost9. Before Three10. Out of This World11. Underneath The Stars12. Jupiter Crash13. Wrong Number14. Cut Here15. Gone!16. 3917. Labyrinth18. Maybe Someday19. Us or Them20. The Promise
― nate woolls, Monday, 25 March 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
Have they done anything truly worthwhile at all since Wish? Wild Mood Swings BROKE. MY. HEART. and I didn't listen to anything of theirs since then.
I was such a massive, massive fan and I was thrilled that they were releasing something new and I'd get to see them live after not getting to see them touring for Wish (I would have been at one of the shows where Show was filmed) and then I heard WMS.... I tried to learn to love it, and if I got high enough, Mint Car was all right, but overall it was just embarrassing and demoralizing.
I still went to see them live twice for that tour b/c I wasn't going to give up on them without a fight. The show in Nashville was amazing (at an amphitheater - opened with Plainsong, closed with Killing an Arab - beautiful thunderstorm during the show - they were full of energy, and even WMS tunes were pretty engaging), but the show at George Mason University in DC was beyond boring. Robert Smith laid down on his back and sang for a while, and it felt like he was going, meh, fuck it, rather than being transgressive or cheeky.
It would be interesting now to check out post WMS stuff, maybe. Though when I tried to listen to 4:13 Dream once, I had to stop after a couple tracks b/c it just seemed so hollow and false.
― Je55e, Friday, 29 March 2013 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
I think I voted for The Top. Or Pornography, but pretty sure it was The Top. My first of their albums, and still one of my favorite records by any artist.
― Je55e, Friday, 29 March 2013 03:55 (eleven years ago) link
There were some good shows on the WMS tour -- there's a good Paris bootleg floating around -- but yeah that wasn't a high point for the band. The three albums since plus all the scattered rarities and one-offs have been better! Though if you're not liking 4:13 then...
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 March 2013 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
thanks everyone for your (heh) post-wish lists... I will make a playlist and see what's the what! I never even gave Wish a serious listen, really.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 29 March 2013 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
Ned, I just listened to The Perfect Boy and really liked it!
Well, the remix, but still.
But now I'm listening to The Same Deep Water As You. Baby steps.
― Je55e, Friday, 29 March 2013 04:43 (eleven years ago) link
There are some good songs scattered here and there but I agree that stuff post WMS has always sounded pretty forced and inauthentic. I have the feeling that RS is ow incapable of coming up a song quickly and spontaneously anymore
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 29 March 2013 07:02 (eleven years ago) link
oh.. porl came back? hm. i guess no then as i had no idea.
― piscesx, Friday, 29 March 2013 07:33 (eleven years ago) link
Wish has got this shoegazey feel/moments of loud wall-of-sound guitars, e.g., "Open", "Cut". They translated well live, e.g., the live album Show. But I always dug Play for Today's live versions that had the crowd chant 'ohhhh oh ohhhh oh ohhhh oh ohhh'
― c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 29 March 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link