dj koze - kosi comes around

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how'd he get away with the Marvin sample anyway?

Number None, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

as much as he's a techno hero etc, his sense of pop is the best thing about him. unique.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

i'm listening on npr but which track is the one with the big brass breakdown. incredible.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think that's a sample. Great album though.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

The track with Ada, as lovely as it is, is a bit of a missed opportunity...they were two of the biggest reasons (along with Michael Mayer) for getting into house/techno as a teenager. I guess I was hoping for more than a Kings of Convenience cover.

Still, been playing the album on a loop all day. So good.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 18:11 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty sure he samples Marvin thrice actually. There's the obvious "We are all sensitive people" bit, then it sounds like he's cutting up the 'woahs' from "What's The Matter With You Baby" on "Don't Lose Your Mind", and i think that distorted vocal at the start of "Ich Schreib Der En Buch" might be him too

Number None, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

the bass on "magical boy" is really sublime

A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

His sampling aesthetic feels v different to pretty much anyone else in dance music. How he mashes sounds and motifs together. It's like ideas colliding into one another somewhere in the lower intestines of the world.

Tim F, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

This feels like an Avalanches album done by Koze

tarping, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

The 'sensitive people' part sounds re-sung to me, not like a sample. Could be wrong though.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

it's a damn good impression if so

Number None, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:37 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, pretty sure its not a sample

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 20 March 2013 01:21 (thirteen years ago)

digging this album, not a fan of m. dear's vocals, though.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 20 March 2013 01:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah otm, liking this but the vocals on that song are horrific

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

Not a fan of Matthew Dear in general so am braced for that one in advance. Is this out yet?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

out next week, streaming at http://www.npr.org/2013/03/14/174333356/first-listen-dj-koze-amygdala

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I think using Dear twice is just perverse really.

Tim F, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

ah he's not that bad. more dull than irritating imo.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

he's dull on one of them but actively horrifying on the other

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

Call me strange but isn't the whole idea of DJ Koze using skew-whiff/unexpected/'whatever the hell he feels like' approaches very him? Seems like you're reacting not to a bug but a feature.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

I'm always more irritated the second time but I'm not yet sure if that's because it's so much worse or it's just like, "wait, what, again?" Possibly a bit of both.

xpost Ned you're correct but cannot one distinguish between good and bad variants of that.

Tim F, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

Also it's not like Dear sounds particularly weird.

Tim F, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

Or rather he sounds "weird" in exactly the way you'd expect if you'd heard any of his recent albums.

Tim F, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

i can't remember being horrified, or the vocals really standing out either way. i'll take a closer listen next time.

i ordered new speakers recently, really can't wait to blast this through them.

xpost the lead single of the last album was good imo

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

I think that what lifts Reinterpretations above this slightly is (a) the array of different voices and (b) the fact that Kozalla respects them less.

This is still great though.

Tim F, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

reincarnations?

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:13 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah sorry that.

Tim F, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:18 (thirteen years ago)

Ned you're correct but cannot one distinguish between good and bad variants of that.

More than fair! I dunno, I didn't mind either appearance, just seemed to be part of the whole collage without skipping a beat.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:22 (thirteen years ago)

bit disappointed with this so far, gave it a couple of listens yesterday, really struggling with the vocals :-/ it's way more contemplative/indie/magnolia/ikea lifestyle techno than i was expecting. missing the dark/surreal/comedy/sweatysex side of his sound.

haven't got a feel for the second half yet tho, maybe there's more of that there.

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, listening again, def enjoying the latter half of this album more. after the one with pizzicato strings/marimba/moody pads/deep house chords starts things get better. being a bit of a bummer here, 'kosi comes around' is one of my favourite records, had super high hopes/expectations for this.

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

Koze did a mix for Fader http://www.thefader.com/2013/03/21/fader-mix-dj-koze/

tarping, Thursday, 21 March 2013 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

the R Kelly edit! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 22 March 2013 09:22 (thirteen years ago)

pretty great alright

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 March 2013 09:46 (thirteen years ago)

The album's great, 'don't lose my mind' is a beauty. some of the vocals definitely rub me up the wrong way, but it's strong enough to put that to one side

cheeseburger, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

das wort is amazing

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 March 2013 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

^cosign

I only get 7 per cent of display names (cozen), Sunday, 24 March 2013 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

I think it’s my best work so far, and now I’m falling down like an elevator. All (my) music will be worse. I feel it. I’m over the climax, I realize.

You’re trying to say that you don’t think you can surpass it?

What? No, I already realize that it’s going down now. My time is over; I need too make space for the younger generation now.

This seems like a weird moment in that interview, it's difficult to figure out if he's being ironic. Nevertheless, I have been wondering about the difficulties facing new producers and DJs in German techno-minimal-house these days. Seems to be the same names around quite a bit these days.

MikoMcha, Monday, 25 March 2013 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

where should i eat before swans?

Crackle Box, Monday, 25 March 2013 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

lol wrong thread

Crackle Box, Monday, 25 March 2013 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

I was all set to write this album off as nice-but-unexciting" up until the halfway mark but then it really takes off. The vocals actively get in the way in a lot of places as well, they're so uninspired.

Overall I think Kosi Comes Around is by miles the better dancefloor record, and the remix comp does the whole kaleidoscopic multi-vocalist thing better than this one could hope to do. Then again how many producers could put out an album that's as good as a compilation of their best remixes, especially one that's put together as well as Reincarnations?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

I never thought of Kosi Comes Round as an album - just a collection of bangers.

I never listened to the remix comp cos I'd heard them all already.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

don't really get the annoyance at the vocals - i mean i know a man singing is just horrendous and how dare he - but they provide the quirk that ensures this isn't just say... a compilation of previously released tracks.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 March 2013 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 March 2013 10:19 (thirteen years ago)

I never listened to the remix comp cos I'd heard them all already.

It's actually really well put together, you can tell he's really thought about the sequencing so it works in one listen and flows like an album.

don't really get the annoyance at the vocals - i mean i know a man singing is just horrendous and how dare he - but they provide the quirk that ensures this isn't just say... a compilation of previously released tracks.

I'm not sure I agree with that actually, this would still feel very much like an album (and an event at that) even if it were entirely instrumental, or if the only vocals were sampled. It wouldn't be much poorer for it either.

It's actually only Matthew Dear who really gets in the way, he actively ruins Magical Boy, and his presence on the otherwise fantastic My Plans over the line from full to overstuffed.

The other vocalists are fine, but not exactly bringing their A-game... like when I think of really great vocal house records the vocalists either transform the track into something amazing, or are so integrated with the groove that you couldn't imagine it without them - try and think of any Luomo record without the vocals. I don't really get the sense of the vocal tracks here falling into either camp, the singers feel inessential more than anything else. Maybe that's a result of most of the vocalists here being producers who also happen to sing over their tracks, rather than singers per se, I dunno.

That said I think this is a great record, although I like it a lot more if I start at Das Wort. The production on some of these songs is incredible, at its best its like listening to a really lush soul record that's constantly being refracted into different shapes.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 March 2013 10:21 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not sure I agree with that actually, this would still feel very much like an album (and an event at that) even if it were entirely instrumental, or if the only vocals were sampled. It wouldn't be much poorer for it either.

i disagree really, a lot of it is clearly made to have vocals, this criticism implies the vocals were just tacked on after the fact of making a dance track, there's o way that's the case.

just because the tracks have enough distractions to stop the vocalist taking centre stage doesn't mean they're not important - but yeah he should totes have got some divas, woo, #ilm.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 March 2013 10:35 (thirteen years ago)

Even if it is made with vocals in mind, it doesn't mean those vocals couldn't be different/better. Divas probably wouldn't work though.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 March 2013 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

localgarda on some prime arguing-with-oneself shit itt

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 28 March 2013 10:51 (thirteen years ago)

at least i have the brain power to make a sandwich.

Even if it is made with vocals in mind, it doesn't mean those vocals couldn't be different/better. Divas probably wouldn't work though.

that's a different point to you saying it should be instrumental.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 March 2013 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not saying it should be instrumental, I'm saying it wouldn't be radically worse if it were instrumental, partly because there's so much else going on. And that the vocals that are actually on these tracks, by and large, either don't add much or actively detract from the enjoyment.

I'm also disagreeing with the point that the vocals "provide the quirk that ensures this isn't just say... a compilation of previously released tracks".

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 March 2013 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

personally i feel like slightly camp male vocals of this sort are a part of the original kompakt appeal, but to each his own.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 March 2013 12:13 (thirteen years ago)


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