Weezer -- Classic or Dud?

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Nicole, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

but this is a weezer thread. weezer fans should be on it, right?

danny, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

"Excuse me but may I fart?" -Any British person you choose

ChoopyTrags, Saturday, 12 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I've liked Weezer for a long time now. I think they're a kick-ass band. With the await for the new album i've heard that it's sub-pair (sub-pair with only two albums-well whatever). I also heard Rivers say that he knows the lyrics are shit but he doesn't care. I think that maybe he's bitter because Pinkerton wasn't recieved as it should have been. I mean come on, Pinkerton was fuckin great, Rivers poured his heart and soul into that album. Well i'll just have to wait to see what happens with the Green Album, hopefully i'll be content, but no matter what happens i'll always have Pinkerton, and so that to me makes Weezer a classic

Brian Langel, Saturday, 12 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I heard Rivers has decided not right anymore personal songs anymore. Just fluffy songs. You know out of all the material he's been writing, some of the songs on the new album could've been chosen much more wisely. I think they've should've added Preacher's Son to the album. That song kicks ass. Oh Well, Rivers is fucked up but I dig him. He IS THE LORD GOD KING OF EMO (or so I'm told)

ChoopyTrags, Sunday, 13 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Come to think of it, you might be Robin as well. I'm going for a lie down...

DG, Sunday, 13 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Nope. I was "danny", though, but nobody else on this thread.

This is truly bizarre: "Brian Langel"'s email address is one letter away from being Jamie Ashley and Sarah Hutchings's band ...

Robin Carmody, Monday, 14 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

all i know is that if i was stranded on a desert island, and i could only take one bands music with me, it'd be the beatles, but a close second to that would be weezer, and that, to me, means they are classic.

carla emmerson, Monday, 14 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

They had a band named [email protected]? What a dumb name for a band.

Josh, Monday, 14 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

No, just Ragnarok. I took it from Alan Garner's "The Weirdstone of Brisingamen" (his first book, fucking classic if you ask me), and also because bands in UK boarding schools *always* have the crappiest, most embarrassingly retrograde and "magical"-sounding names.

Well, that was the idea, anyway :).

Robin Carmody, Monday, 14 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

You mean they actually let public school boys be in bands? It's really nothing like that movie "If...", is it? I feel cheated.

Dave M., Monday, 14 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Robin - not actually true. Wacky names and puns are more common, often puns on the word 'funk'. This makes them pretty much the same as bands formed by any bunch of 14 year olds.

Tom, Tuesday, 15 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Doubtless quite true. You are, after all, the one who knows it first- hand.

However, The Face revealed last year that "Red Shift" (Garner, needless to say; the one with the astonishing Drake / Thompson / Martyn xerox) was the name of a sixth-form band at Sherborne School, which was essentially where I got the idea from. That, and the cultural myth of 70s prog fans being largely middle-class.

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 15 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I don't know, I think Weezer still is a classic in the making. Green album is great. Cuomo is still wrestling with his issues of loneliness and finding his happiness, but each album seems to present his search in a different light. Take for instance 'Island in the Sun'. I can't think of a Weezer song with such an honesty in his voice. I'm just glad to see that they seem to be enjoying it as much as ever, and aren't sticking to one formula. This album is more pop than Pinkerton, but it's laced with a dark humor.

rob moore, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

hey, i just looked at this awful weezer thread and ned was talking about the dream warriors in there. i mean, the 'my definition of a bombastic jazz style' dream warriors. ned, you rule.

ethan, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

None of you got it right.

Rivers Cuomo, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

That wasn't me.

Rivers, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Oh that's funny...

JM, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

So I am listening to their first CD right now, and I had forgotten how much I had liked it. Wow.

I had also forgotten the dead pan way Buddy Holly opens with "What's with these homies dissin' my girl?" which is just great.

Ally, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

'Moon of Gomrath' - was read it at primary school - fukscary shit. all weezer is to me is buddy holly.

excuse me if i fart

geordie racer, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Weezer ; utrn off the distortion. THen you can come to my tea party. I used to play the Sweater Song in a Band I was in. Anyone care to talk about the Rentals while we're at it? Atticus Finch!

Mike Hanley, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

SOMEONE WHO REMEMBERS THE RENTALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, but I tried to talk about "Friends of P" with Fred one time and he's all, what? I'm all, that song, you know, it goes, "If you're down with P, then you're down with me". That was the best song.

Ally, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Ah, went with The Moon of Gomrath *myself* at primary school, Geordie. And awesome it was (and still is). I even fancied myself as an expert on Cheshire folklore (which is saying something unspeakably precious and Home Counties for a nine-year-old in 1989).

Robin Carmody, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

So, yeah, I've decided my full fledged opinion on Weezer after a relisten to their first two albums and then a listen to their new album is classic. C.L.A.S.S.I.C. That's all I really have to say about it though. It just sounds great. I hadn't listened to them in a LONG ASS TIME before this thread, really.

Ally, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I have the demo tape for "Friends of P" which got sent to the fanclub, I just found it along with old copies of the Weezine, some kaleidoscope thing you look in and see Weezer, and my purple =w= "Rock Music" t- shirt. I'm thinking of gathering it all up and scaring Ramon to death with it.

Otis Wheeler, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I kind of avoided the Rentals around the time of "Friends of P" - is the album any good?

Josh, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

No, Josh, it's not at all. I just really like asking people if they're down with P.

Otis, if you don't take a picture of Ramon's reaction to all that, I will hunt you down and kill you with my bare hands, hello.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I so cannot tell whether you are being facetious. Because of course you could like the Rentals album and also like asking people if they are down with P. Who doesn't?

Josh, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Now, Joshua. Why would I tell you that the Rentals album is crap, and then give you the only reason why I still remember it, in a facetous move? Am I trying to trick you? What would that accomplish? Nothing, that's what that would accomplish. So no, I'm not taking the piss. I'm being honest. The album is crap. I only like the song Friends of P because I find the chorus to be one of the most humorously inane things ever written in the history of music. In fact, I will search for the song tonight and download it onto my computer. But other than that, it wasn't worth a listen and I returned the CD back in the day when Tower still had their preferential exchange policy going.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

My deepest thanks to you Ally.

Josh, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I once saw the Rentals album on sale for 99 cents, and still thought it would be a waste of money. ;-)

Wasn't Matt Sharpe's big claim to fame that he shagged Miki from Lush? I always thought she had really bad taste for doing that.

Nicole, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

So I've just seen the new video. Listen if you guys like Weezer there's a WHOLE BUNCH of bands that play at Arlene's Grocery on Stanton Street that you'll probably really really love. They're nerds, they rock, they sing about their socks... honestly. There is no shortage. It's an artificial monopoly.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

just picked up pinkerton, partly because of its high placing on the ilm poll. i can't say i like it very much though. it seems curious that so many people seem to love it when it seems very ordinary. there's nothing bad on that album, but nothing very good either. perhaps i was wanting a rerun of 'only in dreams', which, it seems, is the only truly great weezer song.

gareth, Wednesday, 13 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I've never really investigated Weezer beyond what got played on the radio, but I'm slowly becoming obsessed with "Hash Pipe". (The secret to getting Dan to like your video: put sumo wrestlers in it. I hope Christina is taking notes...)

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 13 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Gareth - it helps if you listen to it really really loud.

Josh, Wednesday, 13 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

two weeks pass...
You guys are pathetic fans.

Rivers, Saturday, 30 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

For your information The Rentals SUCK. No balls I hate em. Period. Stupid ass should have stayed in the band. Idiot.

ChoopyTrags, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Somehow I should have guessed this thread would thrive. And even if Ethan's not around any more, thanks.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Rivers... if that is your REAL name... None of these people are fans. Don't sweat it, champ.

Gareth: It also helps if you know all the words and can't sing.

JM, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i have just acquired a $6 cassette copy of weezer's first album and am willing to concede classic status.

sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Weezer is the bomb.

Ally, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, a STEEENK bomb!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

THE RENTALS SUCK! FUCK MOOGS!

ChoopyTrags, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I saw Weezer on the Telly last night - don't know the name of the song or indeed the program, but I guess it may have been a current single as it was a video. Anyhoo, based on this limited exposure they seemed like a very poor 1993 pop-grunge outfit, slightly preppy. Is this representative of their other material, or just a tossed out single? I wouldn't normally give a shit, but I'm intrigued by Sundar's positive comments. He's normally reliable!

Dr. C, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

it struck me as "what if the pixies got bossanova right?" (i. e. what if the pixies were actually the brilliant pop band people claim them to be and not the arty noise-rockers they actually were). they sing boldly, harmonize sweetly, have a strong sense of melody and rhythm, and have a lot of energy. all of which breathes life to the simply stated stories of adolescent losers. the swinging, surging "holiday" is especially beautiful. "only in dreams" actually struck me as the least remarkable song on the album. there's better stuff in that vein on smashing pumpkins' pisces iscariot.

all that said, it is a mid-90s alt-pop album, not something hugely groundbreaking and innovative -- ll cool j good not public enemy good. if you don't like "buddy holly" you probably shouldn't bother with the rest of the album.

now if only i can get josh to concede cinderella;)

sundar subramanian, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

also, the just-enough sinewing guitar melodies suggest to me that they've listened to and picked up on the best aspects of cheap trick/boston aor, which in turn suggests an admirable willingness to go beyond obvious indie touchstones.

sundar subramanian, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well... "I've got/Ace Freely/and I've got Peter Criss"...

Josh, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Weezer is a good band. That's all it comes down too, they aren't too artsy, they aren't too pop-ish, they're just good. Listen to the music and enjoy it. I hate it when people start to over analyze musicians in any way they can. Yes, some song have meaning, and some songs don't...some relate to life experiences, and some don't. I can't imagine being a rabid fan and chasing after some rock stars hair brush just because it's his. I think successful musicians like being treated like people...most of them at least. They have problems like the rest of us, some just happen to be talented. As far as the emo thingy? Who cares what it's called and who started what...I worked at a college radio station for two years, and I got sick and tired of every band identifying themself as some weird cross between "The Catherine Wheel" and modern emo/pop/punk/alternative rock. There are so many sub genres its sick. And they only exist so labels can market to a specific crowd. I like music...Weezer, Radiohead, Rachmaninov, Portishead, Robert Johnson, Daft Punk...who cares what they identify with, or which specific bands they were influenced by. Now-a-day in the rock scene you have to like the smallest indy club band that put out one 3 ep song and disappeared to have the respect of your "cool" peers. Grow up! Weezer is Weezer...a good band...with good songs...nothing less.

Jeremy, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...
Weezer is a fantastic band. Pinkerton is still my favorite album. The Green Album is pretty sweet, too, but, Pinkerton kinda spoiled me. ;)

And don't be so harsh on the Rentals- Matt's not Rivers, but, nobody but Rivers is Rivers. ;Þ (Say that 5 times fast!!)

Maybe one day Rivers will become happy. That would be wonderful for him, but, then who would the rest of us sad geeks have to identify with?

Laura, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sundar, why would you boast aboot paying $6 for the first S/T cassette, when you could've bought it new on CD for 99 cents more at Record Runner or Future Shop?

Vic Funk, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

listened to the white album yesterday. so perfectly suited toward the summer that i once again convinced myself it's my favorite weezer album

ivy., Friday, 11 August 2023 15:49 (two years ago)

I heard Big Dipper's "Ron Klaus Wrecked His House" this past weekend and damn if it isn't "Undone" but seven years earlier and ~135,000,000 less spotify spins. Great song.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Friday, 11 August 2023 19:54 (two years ago)

Agreed about the white album, I love that record

vexingvexillologist, Monday, 14 August 2023 10:13 (two years ago)

one year passes...

what the actual fuck

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/local-news/weezer-bassist-scott-shriner-wife-shot-la-police-chase-1236186437/

Weezer bassist Scott Shriner’s wife, Jillian Lauren, was shot by police while officers were pursuing suspects in a hit-and-run in Los Angeles on Tuesday, according to the Los Angeles Police Department.

LAPD officers said they responded to the scene to assist the California Highway Patrol in finding three suspects following a hit-and-run in the Eagle Rock neighborhood. Authorities said they were working to set up a perimeter in the area after the suspects ran into a residential neighborhood near the 134 Freeway and Figueroa Street.

Shortly into their search, officers were checking behind a residence for one of the suspects when they spotted a woman, later identified as Jillian Shriner, outside a neighboring residence and armed with a handgun. Police said they commanded her to drop the gun multiple times, but said that she refused and pointed it at them, and officers shot Shriner.

She went back into her home, but came out later and was taken into custody, according to LAPD. LAFD paramedics took her to a local hospital to be treated for non-life-threatening injuries. Police said Shriner was not involved in the hit-and-run, and she was absentee booked for attempted murder.

omar little, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 23:18 (one year ago)

She's very lucky she's white.

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 9 April 2025 23:41 (one year ago)

what could have possibly driven this woman to madness

frogbs, Thursday, 10 April 2025 02:49 (one year ago)

xpost Yup.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 April 2025 02:54 (one year ago)

Jillian Lauren stopped by to promote her book, ‘Some Girls: My Life in a Harem,’ and told the crew she got started in the sex industry after dropping out of school at the age of 17: “I was stripping and doing escort work.”

Jillian said she’d been a horrible waitress and “always really wanted something extreme,” but never became a stripper until a customer confronted her, saying: “You’re a horrible waitress. Why don’t you come to the Kit-Kat Club?”
Step 1: Stripping to Prostitute

Jillian said she did some acting work when she wasn’t stripping and met “an interesting, charismatic woman” on the set of a low-budget vampire movie.

The woman invited Jillian to work with her at an escort agency: “I thought it was going to be like ‘The Mayflower Madam.’ Candace Bergen territory.”

Jillian said her first customer was easy, so she stuck with it: “He wanted to look at himself in the mirror and do rush–like amyl nitrates? Poppers? And jerk [himself] off.”

Step 2: Prostitution to Party Guest

Jillian said she enjoyed being an escort: “It felt very powerful to me…to be able to be unaffected…I didn’t feel gross. Like I said, I didn’t feel much.”

After a while, she was approached with yet another opportunity: “I was recruited. I was told–I was tipped off about this audition.”

The ‘audition’ seemed strange: “It’s really just an interview in a hotel room.”

Afterward, she was called and asked to be a ‘personal party guest’ of the Prince of Brunei.

Step 3: Party Guest to Harem Girl

Jillian said her life as the Prince of Brunei’s ‘personal party guest’ started simply enough: “I really was a guest at these parties [in Brunei]…it was weeks before the Prince took a shine to me.”

When she finally banged ‘Prince Jeffrey,’ she was actually kind of into it: “He owned a country. I was fascinated–captivated by him.”

Howard asked if Jillian enjoyed it, so she explained that he was with several women a day: “It was quick.”

Jillian said she was one of 40 or so women in Prince Jeffrey’s harem: “A lot of the women there were teenagers from Thailand.”

Jillian was the Prince’s #2 girl–his #1 was Filipino soap opera actress: “The Western girls were in a separate compound from the girls from Southeast Asia.”

Jillian said she tried to tell her dad she was working as the Prince’s personal assistant: “To which he said, ‘My ass you’re a personal assistant!'”

After a year and a half, Jillian left the harem with a wad of cash: “I had a couple hundred thousand dollars.”

Step 4: Harem Girl to Rockstar Wife

Jillian then revealed that her husband, Weezer bass player, Scott Shriner, was in the green room: “This is the true Prince in the equation.”

Scott came in to say he knew Jillian was a handful when they met (“She looked like trouble.”) but quickly learned he’d found someone with a past that matched his own: “I’ve been going to porno theaters since I was in the 6th grade. I equated love with John Holmes.”

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 10 April 2025 03:24 (one year ago)

five months pass...

She's very lucky she's white.

― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta)

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/weezer-bassists-jill-shriner-lapd-shooting-eagle-rock/3783162/

The wife of a Weezer band bassist Thursday was granted a two-year mental health diversion program after she was accused of firing her weapon at police officers who were conducting a search in her Eagle Rock neighborhood in April

Jill Shriner, 52, was found to be “eligible and suitable” for mental health diversion, according to an LA County Superior Court judge.

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Entering the mental health diversion program means the two felony charges she is facing from the exchange of gunfire with officers could be dismissed.

omar little, Thursday, 25 September 2025 20:36 (eight months ago)


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