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The first 4:30 of "Killing Hand" are pretty good too.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The cover of "Tears" isn't bad too.

For a second I thought you meant they covered a Chameleons tune and I almost died

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Tell me they DIDN'T. The desecration of a classic is too much to bear.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Rush's "Tears". Never heard the Chameleons. I'm definitely glad I'm listening to Miles Davis instead of DT now, I have to say.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

They also did a whole medley of Rush songs, IIRC, "Different Strings", one of the Signals tracks ("Chemistry"?), and "La Villa Strangiato". It was almost kind of creepy.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

If you think those vids are hot you should check out Brian Setzers post-Stray Cats rockabilly instruction vid. He is so coked out that he plays really fast and sloppy, and by the end he has really bad nasal drainage. He rambles about guitar and plays random lics badly for 15 minutes, and then it fades out, presumably when he needs to step into the rest room for a little pick me up. And it is shot in the same quality videostock that made Venessa Del Rio a big hit in adult film industry.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

regarding the fade outs, this happens about four times in a row.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Disco, I really want you to post some images over on the thread I started...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, we must see the cover of this tweaked-out Setzer monstrosity.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

King Crimson meets Spinal Tap. Blech.

― Dirty Muriel (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

That actually sounds like it should be awesome. Are there any super-progged-out bands who sing about sex and farm animals?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Zappa?

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah. Nevermind. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

dream theater?

if you think that they are ridiculous you must hear their copycats...like them:

http://www.mightyrhapsody.com/index.php

― giulio from genova, Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I just remembered, I wrote about Dream Theater this week.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

heh:
Dream Theater's pompous, bludgeoning style of prog-almost-metal will whet folks' appetite for the feast to follow. Of course, no one with functioning ears or brain can withstand more than 40 minutes of them, so an opening slot is almost as good as not hearing them at all would be.

b-b-but what do you REALLY think of them Phil? Don't hold back now...

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes always had a much stronger sense of group interplay than, say, Mahavishnu Orchestra.

THANK YOU.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Even with Wakeman?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but Mahavishnu is cool. Yes are dorks.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm actually finding that I prefer Return To Forever (only the four albums from Hymn Of The Seventh Galaxy through Romantic Warrior) to Mahavishnu right now. And I prefer Yes to either.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually I just like Yes a lot more. I don't know if they actually have better group interplay because MO just turns me off in a way that makes it hard for me to evaluate critically. I don't know how the guy who played In a Silent Way, Jack Johnson, and On the Corner (even Aura!) could have come up with something that feels so cold and repellent to me. I dunno, Ned, Wakeman must bug you a lot more than he bugs me. I actually really like, say, the doodles on "And You and I", the riffs on "Siberian Khatru", and the synth floats and piano breaks on "Heart of the Sunrise".

BTW how are McLaughlin's collaborations with U. Srinivas (whom I like a lot)?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, Ned, Wakeman must bug you a lot more than he bugs me.

He *really* bugs me, and not just in the context of Yes. I'm glad he left the Strawbs when he did.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Was he in Shakti, Sundar?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

'Cause his name doesn't ring a bell, but Shakti is great.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I Wakeman. Thas right.

Ned - you can hate me now.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I (heart) Wakeman, that is.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh dear.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I stopped hearting Wakeman ever since Journey to the Centre of his Arse.

― Dirty Muriel (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Jordan, it appears that he is in Remember Shakti. (He's a mandolin player.) And so, it seems, is Hariprasad Chaurasiya (flute), whom I also love.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit you were right Jordan, Shakti is fucking awesome.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

This thread got me curious about this band, as the only thing I had ever heard from Dream Theatre is that they suck, so I borrowed a live from "Budokan" CD from a guy at work.

While there are definite moments of cheeze, there are some parts that were better than expected. The keyboard player doing all that wack Danny Elfman knicked stuff and the prissy vocalist bring the whole thing really down. All they need is Jon Lord and Ronnie James Dio and this could be a OK band.

Shakti is freaking insane, especially those high speed unison lines they get going.

A few weeks back, I picked up RTF's Romantic Warrior out of a used bin. I never had that one and boy there some cheeze on that one, especially on the second side. I don't know if it is because of punk rock or whatever, but it definitely seems true that all of those fusion bands lost it after 74-75 (excepting some of the ECM stuff, which really isn't that much like the rawk fusion made by all of those guys that played in Miles band but still gets labeled as 'fusion').

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:05 (twenty years ago)

I always think this band is bigger than they are because of their internet fanbase. I've witnessed large portions of non-music websites rally to have a meetup just because it's being held at a DT anniversary concert.

― Cunga (Cunga), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:17 (twenty years ago)

Be sure to read, if you have not already, this review of Petrucci's 'instructional DVD'

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 February 2006 05:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh my...I remember laughing at the original posts before the reviews, but that Petrucci review is classic. It is not as funny as the Albania thread on ILE, but it is in the same ballpark.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 5 February 2006 06:27 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

My friend's band are supporting Dream Theater in the UK soon - should I go and see them?

― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

It'll be high comedy.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

THESE GUYS ARE SICK!!!

― Z S, Sunday, 22 July 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

is that tony levin on STICK??

― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah it is. Only the modified bass stick can handle Tony Levin's breathtaking virtuosity.

― Z S, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

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― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

the stick bass just makes me mad when i see it....

anyway yeah dream theater. i grew up on guitar magz so you know it's all good.

the real underground shit is shrapnel records shit though, that's tru wank. david t chastain and tony macapline and paul gilbert and blues saraceno and all those dudez.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

stu hamm

― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/Portnoy.jpg

― Oilyrags, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

I'm assuming there's a giant gong where the photographer is standing, but until I see it, Portnoy gets no respect from me.

― Z S, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

the SS Bozzio

http://grm.martin.free.fr/photosgraym/terrybozzio1.jpg

― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

While, uh, 'researching' Dream Theater on wikipedia, I've discovered that half the band is married to half the chick-metal band Meanstreak. That strikes me as even more fucked up than the drumsets.

― Oilyrags, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

It is not clear to me whether all three couples were married at once, or if it's like some six-way open marriage or what.

― Oilyrags, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe they were just annoyed with their husbands making love to their instruments rather than to them and decided to get even.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 July 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

There are many musicians whose styles may be legitimately compared to making love to their instruments. I'm reasonable certain that no member of Dream Theater fits this category.

― Oilyrags, Sunday, 22 July 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

they fingerbang their instruments

― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 22 July 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

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Their lives are incredibly messed up

Offstage they're some of the nicest people in the world. John Petrucci is just a dad from Long Island who spends most of his day practicing guitar and doing bicep curls, keyboardist Jordan Rudess is a giant dork and gearhead/inventor, bassist John Myung is incredibly chilled-out and one of the least fame-oriented artists I've ever met, and drummer Mike Mangini is, like, giddy when you talk to him. The singer, James LaBrie, I've never had any interaction with, but he's Canadian, so how bad could he be?

― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:31 (four years ago)

Sounds like having "tons of fans who say things like 'you are the greatest guitar player of all time, man!' on a daily basis" is a sound recipe for mental health!

― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 14:35 (four years ago)

xp that doesn’t surprise me! I still tbey they must be completely messed up. There’s no way you play a 19-string bass and then do yard work

― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 15:55 (four years ago)

Somehow I always forget that portnoy left dream theater in 2010.

Also somehow I missed that portnoy was with avenged sevenfold for a minute?

― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 15:59 (four years ago)

Look let's just be thankful that the surviving members of Rush haven't formed a supergroup with the guy

― the classic emerson lake & palmer line-up (Matt #2), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 16:09 (four years ago)

Portnoy is so insanely busy, amazing this guy has time to sleep, considering how many long ass songs he plays on. I mean, just in the last five years he has recorded albums with:

Liquid Tension Experiment
Transatlantic
Neal Morse solo
Neal Morse Band (x2)
Flying Colors
John Petrucci solo
Sons of Apollo

not to mention associated touring with all of these acts

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 16:19 (four years ago)

I think he is just always in a room playing a solo, and every once in a while somebody walks into the room and presses record for 8 minutes.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 16:29 (four years ago)

Hahaha

― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 16:39 (four years ago)

lol

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 16:40 (four years ago)

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