Rush: Classic or Dud?

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Rush is good
for opening up my pooper
so other men can do me

― Good Dog, Friday, 8 October 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

. . . Or maybe not

Space-jazz-rock-tronic
If rednecks didn't like them
They'd be Kraftwerk-hip

Geddyvox

Less boy or girl than
Alien; Precise
Enunciation

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

fact checkin cuz to thread

― sleep (sleep), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Songs(works) and arrangements: Classic
Lyrics and vocals: Dud

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Rush probably more than any other band....I don't think there BETTER than alot of bands, but they were a big part of my childhood....

Great band, I think.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Young Black Teenagers
Seeking the phattest of shit
Sample Tom Sawyer

― dlp9001, Saturday, 9 October 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

has anyone seen the episode of "trailer park boys" where they kidnap alex liefson?
i gained new respect for the man after watching that.

― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I have no haiku to offer which I why I didn't say anything before. But great, of course.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i was at a party with some guys who were really entranced with some kind of video of stevie ray vaughn stranglin' the blues back in the '80s. doo-rags. these guys were such geeks, glued to the tube while there were girls to hit on and barbecue to scarf. then they got into "moving pictures," talking about the "production values" and saying things like "you can't deny the musicianship," while trying to be "ironic" about the whole stinkin' thing. typical night with people in nashville trying to be hip about not being hip or whatever that convolution is. then, everyone got drunk the host attempted to explain the shaggs to these geeks and everyone *listened hard and they got it*!! ahh. so, rush sucks and that's it, that's just like being "ironic" about kiss or worryin' about montgomery gentry, i think (as in the video where that goober takes off his cowboy hat to reveal an expensive-looking doo-rag/headwrap of some kind), and only the man upstairs can say whether rush is great or not...yes, rush did a record of covers i understand includes a version of eddie cochran's summertime blues done like blue cheer! so, they have roots like the rest of us, cuz.

― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 9 October 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

worst. voice. ever.

― oops (Oops), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

No, that is Brian Johnson, Robert Plant or Bruce Dickinson. But Geddy Lee's voice is not far behind.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

As a band: dud. As a rite of passage: classic.
-- scott p (scot...), June 21st, 2001.

the wisdom in this succinct observation is humid. i loved rush until i discovered indie and punk rock in high school. hearing that particularly melodramatic cut "the trees" (i think that's the title) is still powerfully evocative of my 13-15 years, playing D&D, obsessing about securing issue # 202 of Spiderman, and committing to memory SNL lines. so i'll grant my meaningless benediction upon Rush in the same manner as the astute scott p.

― j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Sunday, 10 October 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Rush: Sophomore Lit.
texts become some deep and
meaningful lyrics.

― Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"Red Barchetta" plays
on radio, Rush fan gets
a speeding ticket.

― Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Fans debate how to
say Peart. Does it sound like "pert"?
No, it rhymes with "near".

― Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Here: Rush's real names
Alex Zivojinovic
Gary Lee Weinrib

― Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic.

NEER-neer-neener-neener
NEE nee nerr
NEER-neer-neener-neener...

That's my "Tom Sawyer" tribute. They should have collaborated with Gary Numan. Maybe there's still time.

― Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

They sort of define dud, don't they?

― Burr (Burr), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

They define "dude," as in, one kid goes, "Dude, check out Neil's drum solo." Other kid nods in appreciation: "Duuuuuuude." I guess with each passing year I like them less than I did when I was 15, but I still wonder what people who dislike them aren't hearing. Maybe they haven't heard "Natural Science," or "Hemispheres," or "The Camera Eye." I guess Geddy's voice can be annoying but so can Neil Young's and Johnny Rotten's.

― clark, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Canadian crap
You hosers should have stayed home
why why oh god why?

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Rush shall be absolved
of all sonic crimes because
"Working Man" kicks ass

― Will (will), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

rickenbacker bass
slingerland and tama drums
gibsons for alex

(uh, not that i knew very much about 'em)

― naturalaw-dp, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Second-string classic
opening for Aerosmith.
As headliner, dud.

― briania (briania), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthem, In the End
Best I Can and Bastille Day
-songs neil ain't write, joe

― naturalaw-dp, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

A sad but true fact :
No women, none, anywhere
Are fans of Rush. None.

― udu wudu (udu wudu), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Geddy had the suaveness:
'Hey baby, the hour is late, I
feel I've got to groove'

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Geddy got his name
When his immigrant mother
Mispronounced "Gary"

I do enjoy them
Since, unlike so much prog-rock
They have some real hooks.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Read an interview
Where Peart described some of his
Practice methods. Wow.

And I don't mean to
Be facetious. That stuff was
Cool to a young me.

― Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

2112 rocks.
Dude, A Passage to Bangkok
is in 7/8.

― darin (darin), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Band denies, but we
know what "Passage To Bangkok"
is really about.

― Edward Bax, Thursday, 21 October 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Who in the hell messed
up the production on the
Vapor Trails LP?

― Edward Bax, Thursday, 21 October 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Went to a Rush show,
the first ten rows were filled with
teen boys air drumming.

― Edward Bax, Friday, 22 October 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dude, if you like Rush,
you will love Dream Theater!"
"No, I don't think so."

― Edward Bax, Friday, 22 October 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

we know many scales
watch us play pretentious shit
please, we are the Rush

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 22 October 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

'Passage to Bangkok':
Peart plays that 'oriental theme'
on tuned percussion

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Friday, 22 October 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

My first rock concert
Peart's solo is awesome; pot smoke
wafting through the air

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Friday, 22 October 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

how can you go wrong
with the dubious ayn rand-
influenced lyrics?

― amateur!!st, Friday, 12 November 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

just heard "overture/
temples of syrinx" online
on knac

oh my fucking god
i mean, oh my fucking god
oh my fucking god

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 12 November 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i see my friends clock
made from the power windows
picture disc, fucks sake!

― bg, Friday, 12 November 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Naked dude learns
Guitar, like that! Has bummer:
Life blood spills over

______________________

Look at videos
The Trees to Power Windows
Geddy has nose job

― Mehama Mama, Friday, 12 November 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Recently, I've been listening more to stuff from the post-synthpop lightly-funky-math-AOR/dadrock phase that basically seems to run from the late 80s until the present day, which was the first stuff by them I ever heard and which (embarrassingly? I dunno) stirred me as a preteen. There's something to be said for this period. The grand sentimental statements and the quirkily wordy and quasi-intellectual lyrics actually come together in a way that makes it less corny than it could be. There's a lot to listen to in the playing and production that accompanies the broad melodies (which I realize a lot of people find cheesy and/or 'inert' in Martin Popoff's words); the solos tend to be elegant in their conciseness. It's kinda proto-DMB in a way but not in a bad way as such. I really like "The Pass".

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 13 November 2004 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Presto was pretty great. I never bought it -- in fact, when it came out I felt as though I was more or less "over" Rush. But these dudes I used to hang out with in high school bought it when it came out and used to play it constantly; we all used to congregate at these dudes' house after school and play Euchre and drink beer and basically fuck around until we had to go home to eat dinner with the folks. Anyway, these guys bought Presto and played it all the time, and though I wasn't as big a Rush-head as I had been just a scant few years prior, I had to admit that the thing sounded pretty good. Like, they were kind of rocking out again. "Show Don't Tell" has an awesome structure; still love that one. I remember "Superconductor" had a real hot riff to it. I don't remember "The Pass" though, I'll have to seek that one out.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 13 November 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It's kind of a really sappy ballad. You might not like it. (Pre-chorus to chorus goes something like "Now you're standing on a rocky ledge/Staring out into a heartless sea/Can't waste time on the razor's edge/Nothing's what you thought it would be/All of us get lost in the darkness/Dreamers try to live by the stars/All of us do time in the gutter/Dreamers learn to steer by the cars/Turn around and walk the razor's edge/Don't turn your back and slam the door on me" if that rings any bells). "Show Don't Tell" is cool, yeah.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 13 November 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Dud. Can I do a limerick instead of a haiku, 'cause that's what I got.

There once was a Canuck named Geddy,
Who sang in voice nasal and heady,
His pretensions grand
plus ideas from Ayn Rand
Cause my gastric juices to eddy.

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 13 November 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Did anyone get Rush In Rio? How is it?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 13 November 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I really like "The Pass".

I did too a lot at the time -- you have inspired me, I am listening to Presto for the first time in who knows how long. (The start to "Show Don't Tell" is a freakin' treble-fest.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 November 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually now it seems like the whole album is. What were they on?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 November 2004 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, the pun of the title of "Anagram (For Mongo)" makes me want to hurt someone. (Flipside: I do enjoy that the album was "brought to you by the letter 'D'")

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 November 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, and the instrumental break with the synth on "Superconductor" actually makes me think of the Chameleons!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 November 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

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Like, there is something really inspirational about it, they're doing something kind of amazing by going back out and playing these songs.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 June 2026 03:34 (yesterday)

Last night they stuck a complete Moving Pictures performance right in the middle of the show. No big deal.

The way these songs and setlists are being juggled really reflects the fun everyone's having. What a gift.

― A. Begrand, Friday, 12 June 2026 13:57 (five hours ago)

ya given the situation they could be forgiven for playing the same set every night but the fact that they're switching it up and doing all the most difficult stuff is really something

― frogbs, Friday, 12 June 2026 14:07 (five hours ago)

also apparently Sabrina Carpenter was at this show, hell yeah

― frogbs, Friday, 12 June 2026 14:11 (five hours ago)

To nitpick - seems to be no Power Windows, little of HYF, Presto, Vapor Trails. Seems strange given the keyboard options onstage

Further nitpicking - I think it’s a decent shout that Neil was most responsible for the static setlists and although the rotating etc they are doing now is great, I think the full song list is a bit conservative - they have staples they must play basically but I think this was a good opportunity to *really* play whatever the hell they liked beyond the ‘hits’

― Master of Treacle, Friday, 12 June 2026 14:49 (four hours ago)

I guess, but it also reminds me of how the Flaming Lips would always introduce "She Don't Use Jelly" as something many in the crowd had heard a lot before, but also a song that many newbies in the crowd have never seen performed before, so just be happy for them. In the case of Rush, this is their first tour in around a decade, which means most people under the age of, I dunno, 25 or so have probably never had a chance to see the band, not to mention anyone else introduced to them in the past 10 years. So hits, whole albums, epic songs, it's nice they're shaking it up as much as they are, since they're trying to appeal to everyone from the heads to the kids.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 June 2026 15:15 (four hours ago)

Rush played a chunk of Power Windows on their 2012 tour, and it was awesome. With a tour this long, I wouldn't put it above them to toss in a track eventually.

― A. Begrand, Friday, 12 June 2026 16:44 (two hours ago)

I think this was a good opportunity to *really* play whatever the hell they liked beyond the ‘hits’

I think a lot of these veteran bands, even if and especially when they have played hundreds of shows, have internalized that what gets the audience reactions is "good", in spite of their own tastes. Like Judas Priest saying that when they played a song from their first album, the whole audience just stared at them, or Townshend saying the Who wouldn't be playing "Slip Kid" because no-one wants it. If the response is less than rapturous, they think they've done wrong.
Also I don't know to what extent Geddy and Alex really would enjoy playing "Take a Friend" or "Stick It Out" or whatever third-tier track.

― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 June 2026 17:01 (two hours ago)

I wonder if it's because much of Power Windows (still my fave!) and Hold Your Fire require lots of drum triggering. Anika did some of that, but that doesn't really seem to be her thing. Hence the lack of v-drums.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 June 2026 17:35 (two hours ago)

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