Korn: Classic Or Dud?

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I once read a review that said Korn were 'the Joy Division of nu-metal'. I don't know what that makes Limp Bizkit... well...

It is too bad that Korn made more than two albums though.

― Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 27 November 2003 03:34 (twenty-two years ago)

The new one is decent.

If Korn are the Joy Division of Nu Metal, I guess that'd make Limp Bizkit....INTERPOL!!

or, you know, Crime and the City Solution, maybe. Whatev, Bev.

― roger adultery, Thursday, 27 November 2003 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

"Korn/Bizkit = Sab/Priest?"

Oh damn, I hope not.

Rob Zombie/White Zombie have had a couple of singles that kill anything I have heard from Korn or Gimp Trisket. "More Human Than Human" is great. Of course, Rob Zombie is old as dirt and didn't make it until later and probably played in bands that covered Judas Priest.

System of a Down seems pretty respectable to me in comparison to the Korn/Bizquick axis.

― earlnash, Thursday, 27 November 2003 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I once read a review that said Korn were 'the Joy Division of nu-metal'.

whoever wrote that review must be hunted down and sterilized in the most unsanitary manner possible, while being forced to watch a cageful of hungry minks eat their just-severed genitalia.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Korn/Bizkit = JD/Cure?

― dave q, Thursday, 27 November 2003 08:20 (twenty-two years ago)

(Bauhaus?)

― dave q, Thursday, 27 November 2003 08:20 (twenty-two years ago)

My friend was complaining about a movie with the shitty soundtrack being the worst part- distracting anti-cinematic noise, the kind of thing where the music is jammed in as a commercial to sell records rather than because it fits the story. It was Korn. "Soundtrack? They have more than one song?"

― sucka (sucka), Thursday, 27 November 2003 08:43 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

The lead singer and his pron star wife named their son PIRATE. so says PageSix...

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"This is my son, Cool."

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to think he was inspired the Scooby Doo-esque episode of South Park that KoRn guest-starred on. "p-p-p-pirate ghosts!?"

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The lead singer and his pron star wife named their son PIRATE. so says PageSix...
-- Je4nne ƒury (jeanneƒur...), March 24th, 2005.

haha "kron star marries pron star"

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

or maybe he's just trying to out-WTF Head's ode to 50 Cent.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Early Korn had some shit. I like "Blind" and "Good God" ok.
Steve Vai is a huge fan! He goes on and on about them in guitar mag interviews, they're like his favorite current band.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah there seem to be a lot of trad 80's metal/hard rock heads and famous dudes who loooove Korn. like, I think Sammy Hagar looooves Korn.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I was just nostalgic for the ama thread.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"This is my son, Cool."

Hahahahahahahahaha. Parenth00d!!!

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I never realised "Got the Life" was a disco song...BUT IT TOTALLY IS!

― What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Buttrock

― amon (eman), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

barely 1/10th (and that's being kind) as good, interesting, mould-breaking as Faith No More surely?

Just to add some balance to the positive aspects being discussed in relation to 'Korn'.

KDud.

― omg my new black hoody is so edgy, Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Parenthood rules it. I'm convinced "A couple of months ago, Gary got his first boner." was an intentional Replacements reference.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

How much did "Issues" cost to make again? $17 billion?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

no you're thinking of Untouchables

― charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

IIRC, it cost $4 mil, and it was mostly due to the fact that Korn have their own road crew, and decided to keep them all on salary while the band went on a hiatus for a year or two between albums. which I thought was pretty cool of them.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 24 March 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

yup.

god forbid they want to take care of their friends!!!

― charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 24 March 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah exactly. that's why it annoys me when people just hold that figure up and say "oh look at these assholes blowing all that money"

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 24 March 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

lol @ Korn Unplugged.
They did Creep by Radiohead (complete with piano player banging around inside piano to make that *chugga* sound) and now they're jammin' w/ Robert Smith

― marmotwolof, Monday, 5 March 2007 07:28 (nineteen years ago)

thats not robert thats the singer from evanescence

― chaki, Monday, 5 March 2007 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

that was earler. they were both on. robert was on last and had more makeup on and was fatter than amy lee

― marmotwolof, Monday, 5 March 2007 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

One of the most overwhelmingly negative C/D threads I've ever seen (and deservedly so).

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 5 March 2007 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

I do have a mild soft spot for korn, and korn alone of the nu-metal pack, and I'm not entirely sure why. it's possibly due to:

a) their big, fat, ultra-simple riffs (e.g. 'here to stay,' 'counting', 'falling away from me'
b) jonathan davis's pronounciation of 'me' as 'moy' (also affected by britney spears, pop kids
c) as previously mentioned, the vocal breakdown in 'freak on a leash'. absolute birlliance.
d) over-the-top chest-beating teen angst as conveyed by very rich grown men who clearly should know better = comedy

plus, korn's 'issues', on a C90 with rage's 'battle of los angeles' on the other side, is a great gym tape. yes, I still use a tape walkman. wanna make something of it?

― m the g, Monday, 5 March 2007 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

a mild soft spot for korn, and korn alone of the nu-metal pack

If System of a Down, Deftones and/or Tool don't count as nu-metal then I agree. If they do, fuck a Korn.

(btw, you shoulda heard JD trying to do the falsetto bit in Creep. I almost thought he was gonna go for it but he kinda just did a simplified versh. maybe he should've had evanescence girl do it.)

― marmotwolof, Monday, 5 March 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

If System of a Down, Deftones and/or Tool don't count as nu-metal then I agree. If they do, fuck a Korn.

I wouldn't have thought they do - but besides, they're all far better bands than K. or at least used to be. all of them have gone off the boil somewhat in recent years.

haven't heard the unplugged thing...part of me never, ever wants to, but a larger part thinks it'd be hilarious.

― m the g, Monday, 5 March 2007 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

yea it's funny. he does the "are you ready" thing from Blind in a deep serious voice instead of screaming it, roffles.

I thought 10,000 Days and Mez/Hyp were pretty ok. I haven't been following Deftones lately.

― marmotwolof, Monday, 5 March 2007 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

10,000 days was really patchy, I thought.far too much of not much at all. great packaging though!

the two system albums could have made one semi-decent album, especially if daron hadn't insisted on doing most of the singing. I mean really, your singer has an amazingly powerful and distimctive voice, so you make him sing back-up to your nasal whining? what!? and I can really live without crap like 'lonely day' and those hollywood songs.

what I heard of the last deftones album was enough to stop me buying it. I was listening to an MP3 when my missus came in and said 'my god, what's this? it sounds like coldplay'. with a heavy heart, I had to concede that she was right.

― m the g, Monday, 5 March 2007 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

the two system albums could have made one semi-decent album, especially if daron hadn't insisted on doing most of the singing. I mean really, your singer has an amazingly powerful and distimctive voice, so you make him sing back-up to your nasal whining? what!? and I can really live without crap like 'lonely day' and those hollywood songs.

Well, yeah. Daron should be restricted to goofy background shrieking. Not to mention the fact that they would've both fit on one CD! That's a weird trend, isn't it? I think that those Kate Bush, Nas, Xtina etc. double albums would fit on one CD too, or would with minor editing. If you're gonna do the "hey looka-me, double album!" thing nowadays I wanna see two 74 minute discs, dammit!
Er, maybe I don't. Maybe just a 40 minute disc of yr best stuff and we'll call it even.

― marmotwolof, Monday, 5 March 2007 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

Korn is strange in that the band straddles two distinctly different periods of my life. I moved out of New York amidst personal and professional difficulties, at the end of 1994. I remember at the end getting albums by those two groups and seeing them live once or twice but I still have to think back to the fact that they existed in my NYC life. The Deftones too, now that I think about it.

I haver a love-hate relationship with these bands. On one hand when they came out they were unique and I appreciate this because there's just so much unoriginal crap out there. They influenced a ton of bands and I am not of the thought (and I believe that I am in the minority on this one) that this is conditional: being influential cannot be a bad thing when you don't like the bands but a good thing when you do. It can change whether you listen to and enjoy the band and their (often illigitimate) offspring but shouldn't change the accomplishment itself which is rare and notable.

My biggest problem with Korn isn't that they influenced mook metal, it's that they haven't changed much at all in many years. It's bad enough their sound has been coopted so many times, the fact that they, too, now rely on it is just lazy and boring.

The Deftones do not suffer from this and I think I respect them even more for it. I have had to review both bands and interview them on several occassions. I would almost never listen to their music recreationally but don't cringe when I have to write about them or their songs are played where I can hear them.

― NYCNative, Monday, 5 March 2007 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

this is true...I hate the phrase, but korn is something of a 'guilty pleasure'. I've got a couple of their albums, and they're good for certain purposes (i.e. hefting weights and attacking a cross-trainer), but beyond the visceral brilliance of some of their big-ass riffs and the ironic pleasures of dumb woe-is-me choruses, there's nothing that really resonates with me.

deftones are a much better band, and certainly have expanded upon their sound, experimented and moved on. I'm just not that fond of their new stuff.

― m the g, Monday, 5 March 2007 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Wait wait wait.... DUD!!!!!!!!!

I mean wtf?!

― Saxby D. Elder, Thursday, 8 March 2007 05:37 (nineteen years ago)

The unplugged Freak on a Leash with Amy Lee is funny but really that song is useless without doon naka boon naka naka imma

Honestly so far as nostalgia for nu metal bands I hated when I was in middle school goes I have more of a soft spot for Limp Bizkit but I wouldn't say no to a Korn comeback

― A B C, Thursday, 8 March 2007 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

hahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaahaha.

ha.

haha.

WHOA. please kill me now.

― Cameron Octigan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

what was the song with the bagpipes? i kinda liked that one. we played it in the gym in high school and it we turned it up so loud the metal in the lights was buzzing. otherwise: dud beyond belief. man, what a bunch of tools. and responsible for so much evil in the world!

― Emily Bjurnhjam, Thursday, 8 March 2007 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

I have tied a piece of string to Korn. I'm trying to see how far I have to stretch it before I can tie the other end to James Chance's drug scabs. I keep getting lost somewhere around Jupiter.

― Pye Poudre, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

The last two songs in the Unplugged set were fucking awesome! (It helps that one of them was "Inbetween Days" with Robert Smith but the other one with the gratuitous kodo drumming was just WOW, WHY CAN'T THEY SOUND LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME?)

― HI DERE, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

was their last album done w/the matrix or am i totally imaging that? if so i'd like to hear it.

― artdamages, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

(BTW, any growing fondness those two songs might have generated for Korn vanished when the rest of their MTV2 playlist consisted of... videos of themselves.)

― HI DERE, Thursday, 8 March 2007 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

So, I guess they are gearing up for a world tour and holding auditions for a new bassist in Arizona.
They liked what they've heard from my brother's roomate so he was invited to go try out for them
If he gets in I could totally get free backstage passes I bet, omg
TS: upcoming Korn world tour vs upcoming Limp Bizkit world tour

― turtles all the way down (Face of Wolf), Monday, 9 March 2009 11:02 (seventeen years ago)

actually, my mom told me the information wrong
it's Head the former Korn member who was auditioning for a band to go on tour with (with Mudvayne)
in any case, my brother's roommate is now his bassist
i'm finding this incredibly funny and absurd

― turtles all the way down (Face of Wolf), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 09:18 (seventeen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Are you ready?

― Moka, Saturday, 13 February 2010 08:45 (sixteen years ago)

I'll have to put some pants on first.

― Hangin' with Tommy Cooper (King Boy Pato), Saturday, 13 February 2010 08:52 (sixteen years ago)

i can't believe people actually defended Korn itt

― lukevalentine, Saturday, 13 February 2010 19:35 (sixteen years ago)

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also crazy how terrible fieldy's bass is in isolation in comparison to how transcendent and iconic it becomes in context

― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:14 (three years ago)

fieldy's flicka flicka sproing walked so that brr brr deng could run

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:35 (three years ago)

korn was one of the few major nu-metal bands that never had a dj so i personally think of fieldy as the dj, or at least as much a percussionist as a bassist

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:36 (three years ago)

That drummer oozing Chad Smith vibes.

How come all these nu metal bands have ringing ska band snares? Is it to pop above the rumbling of all the drop C guitars?

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:57 (three years ago)

I always have had a soft spot for these guys, feel a little bad for not keeping up from the late 00s onward

― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 20:05 (three years ago)

the bass is fascinating and this band’s sound is addictive, I could seriously listen to them just jam out on one chord for 20+ minutes

― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 22:19 (three years ago)

xxp the piccolo snare! always makes me think of 60s funk… and 311

― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 22:20 (three years ago)

their last one was pretty solid. some of the vocal tics that made them hard to bear back when are less in evidence. they have a thing & it's pretty cool when it hits

― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 01:04 (three years ago)

Korn should now be eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Think bout dat

― DT, Friday, 10 February 2023 22:48 (three years ago)

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