― jamesmichaelward, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
So what does everyone think of the McAlmont & Butler album then?
― Ally, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nicole, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Norman Phay, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― maryann, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sean, Friday, 2 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Simon, Saturday, 3 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nick, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― maura, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Billy Dods, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gareth, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Well, he did usually sport a builder's crack, and not to great effect.
Now he looks like Steve Dallas, at least that's funny...
― Nicole, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I'm not really overly concerned or critical about the lyrics because they're supposed to be cryptic, OTT and rub people the wrong way. Bernard Butler really poncey and a bit phobic about Suede lifestyle things but he was the one I saw in Hampstead walking away from Diana funeral motorcade passage so perhaps secret royalist/conservative?
The difference between Suede decadence and Ritzy decadence is the former is queerish and the latter reads no books and loves no art.
― suzy, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I knew there was something weird about him, this makes sense (and is very funny)...
― Ally, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
They met cos: Brett and Justine were at architecture college and togeth-ah for that duration and decided to form band with Mat, Brett's best friend. Drummers were tried, including Mike Joyce from the Smiths, then they got Simon and stuck with him. Bernerd was thrown up by a Melody Maker advert. Rule A is that the last one in on the advert is always the first one chucked. Ally, you won't like this but they wrote a great big long letter to Nick asking for their great hero Momus' verdict on their stuff; he wrote a sniffy one back saying they were so mediocre they'd be massive. Justine left band after leaving Brett for Demon Allbran.
Justine should've just stayed in Suede, she'd probably be better off.
― bob snoom, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nicole, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ally, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
But I'm paying for it now, just bringing this up has placed unsavory mental images in my head.
― gareth, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
The DrownersMy Insatiable OneMetal MickeyAnimal NitrateSo YoungStay Together (edit)We Are the PigsThe Wild OnesNew GenerationTrashBeautiful OnesSaturday Night (edit)LazyFilm StarThe Chemistry Between UsElectricityShe's In FashionEverything Will FlowCan't Get Enough
(80:09, this one was easy to compile as a hits survey. the non-single tracks are my essentials - and remember if you disagree, post yours!)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link
― kinski (kinski), Sunday, 16 May 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 16 May 2004 15:15 (twenty years ago) link
I guess it's not that much of a surprise, but I just randomly put on the latter and it hit me like a falling anvil.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link
As it happened, I brought the singles disc with me to work. Revival time!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― the bellefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
Heck no. A noted fan is one Mr. John Darnellye of the Goats of Mountain, who wrote a wonderful essay on the album in one of the last print editions of Last Train to Jakarta.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― the bellefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
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― the bellefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― the bellefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link
when is LOVE AND POISON coming out on dvd then do we think?
― piscesboy, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm kinda surprised the website is still up. Did Mat, Richard and Simon just decide to retire and relax?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― uncledaddy, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Wow, what a band.
So, I've never really understood Manic Street Preachers, and indeed, midway through the opening set, my wife leaned over and said "I don't get this band." I certainly can't see them following Suede, have they really been swapping headlining slots?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 November 2022 05:08 (one year ago) link
Yup, they have. Over in the UK that would likely make total sense but here...yeah, hm.
Suede headlining SF meant I had the right night.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 November 2022 05:20 (one year ago) link
Suede opening in Toronto means my friend and I get to leave early and go for a few drinks before getting home at a reasonable hour on a work night!
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 17 November 2022 13:17 (one year ago) link
So which band is likely to be opening tonight in Silver Spring? Chicago was the last show.
― Chris L, Friday, 18 November 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link
Probably Suede, as the Manics opened in Chicago, and I believe they’re alternating.
― blatherskite, Friday, 18 November 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link
I saw Suede at the Øya festival in Oslo in August. I loved it and it was the festival highlight for me. But obe thing surprised me, and that was the lack of new songs. The entire set contained the the new single and one song from "Bloodsports", nothing else from the reunion years, everything else from the 90s even including some deep cuts from the debut album (so great to hear "Pantomime Horse" at a Suede gig in 2022). And they had s new album coming in even, but ignored it completely save for that one single.
Looking at their setlists, this seems to be a typical thing. I like their new albums a lot (especially the two moodier ones in the middle) but they almost ignored that phase completely. This may have made the concert better, because even though the new songs are good, fans are less familiar with it than the old stuff. Especially since this was a festival eith not only hardcore fans in the audience.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Friday, 18 November 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link
Hmm. We got two from the new album, one from Blue Hour, one from Bloodsports and iirc none from Night Thoughts (which may be my fave of the comeback albums). One b-side (Flash Boy), the rest hits (as such). I suspect that because of the dual headliner nature of the set that the band lost some stage time.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link
I've seen them quite a few times in the last 10 years, and they play a lot more of their newer songs in regular tour gigs. Festivals are definitely greatest hits affairs, and they seem to be treating the US tour that way too. I would expect a few from the new album and its immediate predecessors when I see them in Glasgow in March, though they'll no doubt end the set with a lot of of the big ones.
― Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link
They played a slew of shows tied in with Autofiction's release that was nothing BUT the new album plus "It Starts And Ends With You." So it does vary.
Giving nothing away about the conversation: when I had that nice chance to hang with the band the other week, it was very clear they're very conscious about their setlist choices and what they play depending on where they're at, the nature of the show etc., and that they're open to turning over ideas among themselves.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link