amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

Veronica Mars should be a rap alter-ego.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MutFHKzhjc

Just assume it sucks and don't click on it, because it's horrible.

Why is it everyone thinks they can rap? "Come on, freestyle with us! Anyone can do it!". No they can't!

I clicked on it, only because I assumed it was Kristen Bell badly rapping. No, it's some guy rapping abuot Kristen.

For $2 mil, I will rap, and rap well. Biggest donors get a cameo on my cut.

Oh, of course.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/03/amanda-palmer-2/

ctrl+f 'eyebrows' = 0 results

missing the point, imo

oops 1 result for eyebrows.

My distrust of her doesn't lie in the fact that she's a woman or who she's married to, it pretty much wholly stems from reading blog posts that were 100% written by her. Useful strawmen tho.

here are all these reasons people say they don't like her, but would these reasons matter if she was a he?

it's a free country I can hate who I want, eyebrows or no

i am comfortable disliking anyone -- i don't care if you're black, white, purple -- who writes:

then again, who else but [refers to self in third person] could write a mini-ukulele-opera and get MORE to the core point of connection and crowdfunding and money and energy and art and love than a simple talk could? this is the kind of shit i do.

the KLF, probably

http://weirdestband.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/tiny-tim.jpg

Actually, I totally agree with that article. I fucking hate Amanda Palmer, but in a lot of the conversations I've had about her with otherwise sane, non-sexist, rational people, there have been things said that I find pretty fucking gross. The article explicitly states it's not defending her actions, it's responding to the vitriol she's received. And it is OTM.

get MORE to the core point of connection and crowdfunding

does this just mean, inasfar as the crowd's funds are effectively gotten?

It's responding to a type of vitriol, sure

sorry but as someone who it implicitly called sexist I totally think you're wrong Emily. it was way too broad brush in its accusations, to the point of being little more than your typical "haters gonna hate" whinge.

maura, why don't you believe that LOVE is INFINITE?

Ha, okay, I didn't follow the links there, so you may be right in that it's not going after the right guys (well, definitely in some cases), but it is a very very real thing in the discussions around AP.

btw I think Neil Gaiman's prose is overwrought and his comics work was nice 20 years ago for a few issues, but he's not making pronouncements in the public sphere about his abilities and THAT is why I don't clown him

Also, the property battle from which he is some folk hero for creator rights is mainly about this character (click images):
http://www.google.com/search?q=spawn+angela

If the argument is "you are clowning AP because she is a woman," no. It's because of how she speaks of her work, not the work itself, or her gender. That said, if she worked with a label again, I would likely not criticize -- she hasn't directly spoken against large record labels, only criticized aspects of the one she was signed to a few years ago. Being well in control of your artistic vision and free agency is one thing, but acting like you're able to do that in a vacuum is the thing

Basically, I find laughing at Amanda Palmer in public to be too tiring to be worthwhile, because I have to keep smacking down idiots who decide to slut-shame, body-police, diminish because she's only some woman, her husband is famous, blah blah blah blah, when all I want to do is laugh at a terrible person.

You need to find a better brand of snark

have you tried ILX brand?

Yes people that say sexist things should be called out. But bringing this up most of the times AP's business practices are scrutinized is a rather dull way to deflect the discussion, and doesn't exactly strengthen her arguments. Neil Gaiman doesn't go around telling people he is THE FUTURE OF LITERATURE while asking his fans for free writing for his books, does he?

He's apparently involved with blackberry which is totally the future of phones (hehe)

Neither I nor the writer of that article have defended her on those bases.

remember all the 'why we hate anne hathaway' pieces? because she's too ambitious/full of herself/drama club earnest?

ap is textbook that, and there's nothing intrinsically wrong with that. some people even like her music -- pretty sure i liked at least one dresden dolls song.

but good lord when you present yourself as the apotheosis of media/creative humanity while hawking a ukelele album, come the fuck on. tao lin sucks too, and it's not racist to say so.

drama club versus tourist district street performer hustlin'

I think if you google your name often enough to have a nickname for the activity you are a bit too full of yourself.

tbh I love Anne Hathaway BECAUSE she is so ambitious/drama club earnest, which comes across as her being full of herself

As long as I never learn she's into poetry slams. That'd be a bridge too far, Hathaway.

anne hathaway never took a selfie while holding a sign saying THIS IS THE FUTURE OF ACTING

(at least not that i know of)

somehow i'd be ok with her doing that.

the future of acting, hathaway's boot stomping on a face

Then gnawing on said boot and selling it. Crowd sourcing!

actual lols

then allowing ppl to wear the boot for a few hours while sleeping in their bed

Thank her in broken English for that special condescension.

Basically, I find laughing at Amanda Palmer in public to be too tiring to be worthwhile, because I have to keep smacking down idiots who decide to slut-shame, body-police, diminish because she's only some woman, her husband is famous, blah blah blah blah

otm

and please, the people who keep going on about her eyebrows - could you please stfu, because that is just shallow and gross.

which is only half-applicable to her eyebrows

the thing that is the most striking to me about Amanda Palmer is the tone in which she writes/talks about herself and the implied audience for that performance. When I read what she writes, my primary feeling is embarrassment, the embarrassment of being privy to a conversation that is not meant for me. Sometimes it makes me angry, angry for being assumed to "buy in" to "be a fan." It reminds me of kids doing talent shows for their doting adult relatives, which is charming and appealing if you are one of the doting adult relatives. But now she is doing her talent show for the doting adult relatives and the general public, with a similar response to like, a dark cabaret Honey Boo Boo child or something ...

It just reminds of countless stories of underground musicians who suddenly become famous, and the ability to speak to their fanbase, their community and just that audience - that privacy - is gone.

the tone in which she writes/talks about herself

she seems to talk a lot about the significance of her own actions and the significance of her audience's being her audience, which is, like, usually a theme reserved for… jesus, dictators, self-realization-method-entrepreneurs, uh…

i dunno - it seems typical of any mutual admiration society, really.

I'm sure there is a degree of sexism in the reaction to Palmer, e.mily, there almost always is anytime any female artist is discussed in America.

I try to be a good person & examine & be conscious of my own privilege & unexamined prejudices

But with her, I just...can't.....I just find her so offensive & so representative of this horrible narcissistic self important manipulative shithole that social media has turned life into I just want to let my hate of Palmer and Gaiman run free like a wild stallion leading a runaway herd of horses, trampling everything in their path

Also fuck Gaimen getting any kind of pass, he might be worse, he's getting his hands on the money while sort of keeping this respectable distance and letting Palmer do the dirty work

And he has no excuse, he's already wealthy

I'm not entirely sure why you assume he's getting a cut of the money?

He's been involved in kickstarted ”performances” with him and palmer, for which tickets were sold at full price, but they kickstarted poor saps the chance to come backstage and kiss the ring of the gothfather and his moll.