Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

hey i wanted to add that i like that track, UMS

yeah I'm a casual tenor electric player who doesn't really work in this style, but I like reading about it and hearing stuff, it doesn't impede the thread too much imo.

(thx al)

steffan basho is really great btw, liking all his stuff on spotify so far

I'm not planning on posting much more (if any) shop talky stuff/my own tunes in here, actually, it just seemed like a good time to share is all. I like the vibe in this thread overall and I'd say the 8-9 (?) regulars, to echo UMS, have good enough judgment to keep it quality. It is fun to talk shop with people, though, as I don't see much of a web presence for this style (outside of the Yahoo Fahey players group, which I find impossible to use/comprehend)... so I reserve the right to maybe geek out and facilitate some tuningchat in the future or whatever!

To share some more established stuff, found this guy on Spotify awhile back, really dig the little flourishes he adds with his 'feat' and harmonica. It is a very warm feeling record, feels like you're in his living room (which is probably where he recorded it?)

http://philcookandhisfeat.bandcamp.com/

btw thanks for posting that bachman tuning i'm gonna mess around w/that

oh, also, pssst, Lang's secret weapon on some of his best songs is Open C w/ E tuned down to a D... didn't hear it from me

okay i'm done

haha, are a lot of these dudes secretive about their tunings? will lang break your fingers if you steal his thing?

Aw, naw, just adding some color commentary to my post? He said Fahey did it to his guitar, like, Fahey walked up and said "try playing it like THIS" and tuned the high E string down.

i'm pretty sure i remember reading electric eden and there was something about Davy Graham being sort of semi-secretive about DADGAD at first, but i think he was basically the first dude in the UK to even use it & everyone was tripping out like how the fuck is he playing like that?

my wife plays in DADFAD. that is all.

Harry Taussig interview/excerpts this morning:
http://www.npr.org/2013/03/14/174140005/at-south-by-southwest-a-71-year-old-guitarist-makes-a-belated-debut

lol "Guitar players are like hookers. When they last long enough, they became respectable."

That Taussig interview is great, seems like a really interesting guy. Interesting statement about chops from the Tompkins Square guy, i.e., that what makes Taussig good is not his technique/chops at all, just the personality and feel of the playing.

Whoa just read it originally, listening to it now, and there is WAY more Taussig in the audio (including music examples and playing etc.), don't skip it.

cool...it is interesting, obviously most of these dudes are generally super-technically proficient, but there does seem to be a line that you have to be careful not to cross, where you just drift into new age healing music. or late period kottke or something.

as a tax refund indulgence i went out and bought the fahey transcendental waterfall 6lp boxset. this thing is goregous, hope the records sound good!

also i have a john fahey t-shirt now which feels really weird

it's like...i dunno...having a charles ives t-shirt or something, just doesn't seem right but it's nice looking

Taussig vs Bickoff? These reissues are both fantastic. Taussig has the edge right now for me because Fate Is Only Twice is just as good as Fate Is Only Once. Then again, latter day Bickoff on that NPR thing is pretty terrific. These are my dudes right now.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/859119_540235536009257_1070246751_o.jpg

"Should get fantastic exposure on progressive rock stations, thus good sales."

Got a lot of catch-up listening to do, but was working through some Cian Nugent over the last few days, which I have been thoroughly enjoying (just youtubes mostly), and this really hit the sweet spot for me today. Live performance from Tusk 2012:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdjOf2UJkHA&list=UUIsjcp52s0s4q6tC1Lc-_nQ&index=4

Not much time to comment today, but for those interested Three Lobed just posted a song from the upcoming Chuck Johnson record:

http://threelobed.bandcamp.com/album/crows-in-the-basilica

Big write-up by Marc Masters on the page as well, which I assume may be the liner notes?

cool, that sounds good. i haven't heard a ton of chuck johnson, but what i've heard i've liked.
my contribution for the day -- i picked this up at the library over the weekend
http://www.di-arezzo.co.uk/multimedia/images/oak/couv/ok61051.jpg

Great picture. Hope I look like that and am still playing when I get that old. Also, hope I get that old.

Sorry, in light of some events today that is kind of a bummer of a post. Just hope to be lucky enough to give that look a shot.

once again thx to spottie for the spotify list

chuck johnson is really amazing so far

not a lot of info here but: http://www.robbiebashofilm.com/

was already excited for the new chuck johnson record but c'mon chuck you are spoiling us!

"Crows in the Basilica" is from a physical edition of approximately 750 hand-numbered copies and is pressed on 140 gram Dutch vinyl

dutch vinyl is the good stuff, they hoard all that sweet vinyl over there

listening to a bunch of chris forsyth, rangda, gunn-truscinski, that cian nugent + cosmos stuff ... even though there's obviously crossover with this thread, almost feel like it needs its own thread. we're in a golden age for instrumental psych-guitar rock! maybe!

new thing i wrote in open c tuning

https://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/untitled-in-open-c

FINALLY

lesson with peter lang tomorrow :)

Break a leg! Or a finger, if that's more appropriate, superstitious counter-meaning-wise. Tyler, speaking of possibly inappropriate "golden age of instrumental psych rock", this just in from Drag City, with travel tips at the end:
http://www.dragcity.com/system/stories/primary_images/703/large.jpg?1363889179

DAVID GRUBBS HUGS PARIS BEFORE REACHING HIS LOVE OVER THE WHOLE OF EUROPE!
While we Chicago heads try and fail to tame March's wild lion, David Grubbs is one full step ahead of the calendar with The Plain Where The Palace Stood set to drop on the 16th of April. Cultured man that he be, Professor Grubbs love a jaunt through Europe every opportunity he gets - and what better opportunity than those presented by the release of such a rockingly erudite LP of songs and meditations, a track of which is available for free listenin' here on the DC site! Things don't kick off in earnest til the blossoming month of June, but Parisian residents get a special treat within the next week - David performs "The Wired Solution" with Angela Bulloch, Andrea Belfi, and Stefano Pilia (Onrushing Cloud!) at the Centre Pompidou, Paris' premiere digs for modern arts of all shapes, sizes and sounds, Saturday, March 23rd.

Ten days later, the Ecole Nationale Superiore host a Grubbs performance alongside the performance of like-minded no-wave and post-punkins including Lydia Lunch and Ut, plus some related film screenings, before a guitar jam with Noël Akchoté's ensemble featuring David hits Espace 1789 in the burbs of Saint-Ouen. Our fearless former Louisville-ite returns to Brooklyn for his record release show in May, after-which he'll wing on over the Atlantic once more to tackle the meat of the tour for The Plain Where The Palace Stood (including a true TPWTPS show in Paris at Point Ephémère!). It's all fun, but none of it's a game - that's our hero; if there's one hunky, meat chomping guitar-wielder up for such a challenge, it's David Grubbs, cleaver hidden in Plain sight. All dates below, ready thyself to grab ticket!

3/23/13 Centre Pompidou Paris France Grande Salle - Angela Bulloch & David Grubbs "The Wired Salutation" (w/Andrea Belfi & Stefano Pilia)
4/2/13 Ecole Nationale Superiore- Val de Seine Paris France Free Concert and Documentary Screening 7PM w/ Lydia Lunch and Weasel Walter, Rhys Chatham, and Ut- Screening Blank City and Parallax Sounds
4/5/13 Espace 1789 Saint-Ouen France w/ Noël Akchoté's ensemble of five guitarists performing Carlo Gesualdo's Fifth Book of Madrigals
5/24/13 Issue Project Room Brooklyn NY Record release show! (Solo performance)
6/4/13 Blaa Oslo Norway w/ Andrea Belfi and Stefano Pilia
6/5/13 Landmark Bergen Norway w/ Andrea Belfi and Stefano Pilia
6/6/13 Haus Ungarn (Collegium Hungaricum Berlin) Berlin Germany w/ Andrea Belfi and Stefano Pilia
6/7/13 Club Schocken Stuttgart Germany w/ Andrea Belfi and Stefano Pilia
6/8/13 Sonic Lyon France w/ Andrea Belfi and Stefano Pilia
6/9/13 Point Ephémère Paris France w/ Andrea Belfi and Stefano Pilia
6/10/13 Cafe OTO London United Kingdom w/ Andrea Belfi and Stefano Pilia
9/6/13 Hopscotch Festival Raleigh NC (solo performance)

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Clips from all tracks on the album---brief excerpts, but appealing so far (still making my way through them)---little bit of singing, but meshes with picking. http://www.dragcity.com/products/the-plain-where-the-palace-stood

Title track excerpt sounds great. This sounds like it may be stripped down and less fussy than previous albums. Cool.

i dig that grubbs thing instrumental-wise, but i am not nuts about the singing/lyrics...

think it *might* be more like voice accompanying guitar, rather than vice-versa--? Will have to hear the whole thing o course.

Just got back from lesson with peter, my 45 min lesson went an hour and a half, he kind of just exclaimed his philosophy of teaching and playing plus a ton of amazing digressive anecdotes

Found Lang's 1978 LP Back To The Wall pretty cheap recently but haven't listened yet. I guess there are, like, vocals and saxophones and shit?

Jealous of yr lesson! Would pay just for a one on one hang, really. Bet dude has some stories.

for the west coasters
Danny Paul Grody & Chuck Johnson
3/23 – @ Human Resources, Los Angeles CA w/ Amps For Christ + Daniel Bachmann
3/25 – Eureka, CA (TBA)
3/26 – @ Valentines, Portland OR w/ Planton Wat & Golden Retriever
3/28 – @ New City Theater (MAGMA Fest!), Seattle WA w/ Lori Goldston & Marisa Anderson + Eyvind Kang & Jessiika Kenney
3/31 – @ Hemlock Tavern, SF CA w/ Date Palms

Jimmywine - yeah man I kinda just wanted to hear him tell stories

You'll get the chance for that, he's super chatty! All his tales all pretty entertaining, though. I think he really gets a kick out of sharing his past with someone who is interested and informed.

Re: Basho documentary, what is that gonna consist of? In the Basho thread I recall someone saying that the two clips in circulation are really the only known footage of him playing? It'll have to have lotsa interviews or something, I guess.

More curious about the new Fahey doc making the rounds - anyone seen it? Word on the street is that some people close to Fahey are sorta disowning it.

4/5/13 Espace 1789 Saint-Ouen France w/ Noël Akchoté's ensemble of five guitarists performing Carlo Gesualdo's Fifth Book of Madrigals

^looks great. this album - http://open.spotify.com/album/20yJZYt6wBXTYZkbIv19n6 - akchote playing madrigals composed by 16th century "Italian nobleman, lutenist, composer, and murderer" gesualdo, sounds like it was recorded next to a main road in the rain. well worth a listen, obviously.

xp have heard the same from a handful of folks that were close in. was still worth the look fr the footage obv

Yeah, I definitely need to see it. A feature-length biopic seems long overdue.

love this thread, it's made me pick up my guitar for the first time in literally years (and for maybe the 100th ever, i'm terrible at guitar)

how do i shot lap steel lessons in mpls

i just broke three strings in the process of trying to replace one, i have no idea what i'm doing

Speaking of the Fahey doc, here's fearing/hoping they've checked some of the sources linked here, on the Takoma One-Offs thread---old tyme Ilxor Andy Beta's Fahey memoir is still the most enjoyable I've read:

there's a bootleg from the mid 70s where Fahey suggests that everyone (including himself) commit mass suicide.
"We could all go to sleep. Why don't we all go home and - why don't we go out back and have a joint suicide? Let's all go out back and commit suicide. Every one of us. The neat thing would be when the newspapers come they won't know what happened. Nobody will be able to figure it out."

― tylerw, Friday, June 29, 2012 3:30 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whoa, which one was this? i've been just getting into some of the bootlegs on delta slider. some heavy stuff in there, musically, that is. most of his banter thus far has been lightly amusing. nothing like this.

― global tetrahedron, Friday, June 29, 2012 4:21 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

delta-slider.blogspot.com/2011/04/john-fahey-as-jim-jones.html

― tylerw, Friday, June 29, 2012 4:22 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wow, that's pretty disturbing stuff, dude must've been more wrecked than I ever thought.

― global tetrahedron, Friday, June 29, 2012 4:46 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hey we all have our nights, don't we? ok, maybe not.

― tylerw, Friday, June 29, 2012 4:47 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This older lady, a folksinger, was telling me about being backstage at a festival in the late 60s or early 70s, when a limo came cruising through the mud, and people were saying, "Yeah, Fahey's here!" A guy who looked like a Texas Ranger got out, so impressive--followed by "a little ol' snakehead in a t-shirt." The Texas Ranger type was Fahey's bodyguard, the folksinger was told. As she recalled it, dude seemed "like a cult leader: bad vibes and lame. He played well, of course." But also, he was known early on for a warped sense of humor, and wouldn't be surprised if this scene fit that description. Later, in his more typical econo-mode, a Creem writer saw him onstage with a 12-pack and a rented guitar (both required in the contract), watching a little portable TV while he played (again, no complaints about the playing). But he also spent a lot of time talking about his favorite shows (re-runs of Green Acres, Adam-12, etc) and the Creem writer liked some of those shows too, but wanted a little more music. Still, it was okay. Glenn Jones had some good recollections in liner notes for Red Cross, which I think was the last album Fahey finished before he died, it was pretty good. But the up close and personal memoir that really gets me is Andy Beta's (Andy used to post around here)
http://www.villagevoice.com/2006-01-24/music/looking-for-blind-joe-death/

― dow, Friday, June 29, 2012 11:21 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thanks for the link, good article

― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:31 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that's great
Other times, he would play his mixes: collages of Nazi rallies, Balinese gamelan, and recent Chicago blues licks with their verses and choruses mischievously lopped off, rearranging their 12- bar logic.
wonder if any of these still exist?

― tylerw, Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:38 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

another good one is the john jeremiah sullivan essay, which features fahey a bit:http://essayist.tumblr.com/post/8424884997/unknown-bards-the-blues-becomes-transparent-about"> http://essayist.tumblr.com/post/8424884997/unknown-bards-the-blues-becomes-transparent-about

― tylerw, Tuesday, July 3, 2012 3:32 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oops, sorry: Other times... is Tyler's quote from Andy's piece.