Lily Allen - This summers biggest racist?

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Let's just admit that she's the Happy Shopper own brand version of Neneh Cherry and leave it at that.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

cherry's too good a comparison. she's amy winehouse with all trace of wit surgically removed and clunkiness factor ratcheted up to 100. or lady sov after hanging out with the ordinary boys too much.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

only ska-pop song anyone needs this year = 'stars are blind' by paris hilton

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

From yesterday's Observer:

More than a month ago, for example, I thought to myself that I would quite like to buy Lily Allen's new album (not very original, I know, but I like to keep up with the younger generation). I looked it up on Amazon. It doesn't come out until 17 July. Now that date is drawing near and, funnily enough, I do not want it anymore. The intervening period has made me realise I am actually quite happy living without it.

Article in full.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of pseudonym is THAT marcello?

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

i like Lily Allen! its good to see not all britishes have forgotten how to make good pop music :)

― ferzaffe (flezaffe), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

Are you trying to do a Comstock Carabinieri there?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

lily allen is pop in an acceptable way for many people - indie ("indie/ska"), white, british, proper instruments - whereas ciara is completely un-indie, black and american

Yes, that's it. People don't like her music because the songs are catchy, they like her music because they're racist. Well done, The Lex.

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

Plenty of people liked Robson and Jerome's music because the songs were catchy.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

Anyroad, my guess is the album will do particularly well as well.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

Plenty of people liked Hitler's Germany because the songs were catchy.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

After Lex's "only ska-pop song anyone needs this year = 'stars are blind' by paris hilton" line, I am eagerly anticipating his bizarro- world justification of her cover of "Do you think I'm sexy?" on the forthcoming album.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

i highly doubt i'll be defending that, not even paris could make that dreadful, disgusting song any good.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

I am beginning to doubt your commitment to ~~Sparkle Motion~~ Paris.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

the interview with her in the saturday guardian was wonderful though. how amazing did she look on the cover?! beautiful.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

and the more i listen to 'stars are blind' the more i am overwhelmed and also genuinely moved by it.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

Big Mountain!

i highly doubt i'll be defending that, not even paris could make that dreadful, disgusting song any good.

some would argue that N-Trance already did this. but i prefer the original!

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

not even n-trance.

i'm pausing to reflect on how much of a black hole of badness a song has to be if NOT EVEN N-TRANCE can make it good!

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

I felt exactly the same way about "Won't Somebody Dance With Me?" by Lynsey de Paul when I was Lex's age (xpost x 2).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hybrid Kids to The Lex's ginbox!

(xp)

― zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yes!

"Electronically produced music is one possibility of Tomorrows World!"

(I have the original 45 this was sampled from)

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

Was that when Landscape came on the programme?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

I liked it when ACT were on there.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

I like the N-Trance version a lot.

Actually I like the *Rod* version quite a lot.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

me too, but it's no 'Young Turks' eh?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

Not unless she's given birth to a ten pound baby boy.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

i WAS going to say that all the talk of 'spitefulness' mentioned upthread is bit much cause if she were a man /boy no one would be bringing that up. no one's ever going to moan that dizzee or mike skinner are 'spiteful' or whatever...

but THEN i saw the video !! where she appears to pay for violence to be done to her ex !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLrFAxonZwc&search=lilly%20smile

still aside from that er..quibble, album of the year for me.

― pisces (piscesx), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

not even in my top 2000 albums of the year.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

i'd like all the haterz to say which one female pop star around at the moment they prefer.

and by your answers, i shall have the measure of you sirs.

― pisces (piscesx), Monday, 10 July 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

answers available at usual market rates

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

i'd like all the haterz to say which one female pop star around at the moment they prefer

ciara, xtina, rihanna, christina aguilera, tigarah, cassie, beyoncé, nelly furtado, pussycat dolls, madge, kelly rowland, trina, ellen allien and PARIS MOTHERFUCKING HILTON have all released incredible pop records this year which beat lollen into the ground.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

er by aguilera i mean MILIAN, as obv aguilera is xtina

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

pisces - that video along with the overly bitter/vindictive nature of a lot of the album has indeed turned around my opinion 180 degrees.

i cant listen to the album any more.

― mark e (mark e), Monday, 10 July 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

as for the spitefulness of the lyrics - i think a lot of people are using the word 'spiteful' in place of eg the word 'cuntish' for male singers with equally nasty lyrics like the kaiser chiefs and mike skinner.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

I can tell you like your women "nice".

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 July 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

tigarah

lex leave tiga alone, he is NOT a woman he just dresses nice!!

― hella somethin' Gwen Stefani pantwork (haitch), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

Bitter and vindictive? It's a break-up album for heaven's sake! When did ILM become such a bunch of milquetoasts?! And the flipside of all the cattiness is "Littlest things", which also happens to be best track on the album and brings a tear to even my wizened and jaded eye!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

i keep thinking Marcello will have a 'Supernature'-style turnround on this album in a month or two.

not that i'd be that bothered either way.

Lily Allen is the seventh best solo female British artist out there right now.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Thom, Tunstall, Bailey-Rae and co. all being far lower obv.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

1. Elaine Paige
2. Lynsey de Paul
3. Barbara Dickson
4. Cleo Laine
5. Bonnie Langford
6. Lesley Garrett.

Am I right?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

tigarah

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

Alesha is going to whip Lily's ass like Jackie Pallo versus Freddie Garrity.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

add ashlee simpson to my list of popstars as well

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

Am I right?

Murphy
Stevens
'Frapp
Bush
MIA
Alesha (probably)
Allen
Nixey
Lady Sov
Church

but i haven't heard any good LadyGrime recently apologies

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Alesha is going to whip Lily's ass like Jackie Pallo versus Freddie Garrity.

i expect she will in terms of exciting pop production. but she won't have quite the same commercial success. ho hum.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Lex I'm loving "Stars Are Blind" but isn't it a bit unfair to punish Lily for cod on the one hand and raise up Paris for the same thing on the other?

(okay obviously they're different and I can see why you'd prefer "Stars Are Blind" but the point is we're not living in a world of absolutes here)

(also I like Lily's lyrics too, they are kinda spiteful but the bad vibes feel like a put-on to me, in the best possible sense... she reminds me of my younger sister in that way, who's always in a bit of a bad mood when I first see her but within half an hour she's warmed up and we're making plans to open cinemas which only show films starring Judi Dench and Maggie Smith)

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

If Maggie Smith had made the Lily Allen album I'd be far more kindly disposed towards it.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

Joint Ventures

Sorry, there appear to be no titles for which

* Keith Allen (I) (Actor)
* , Maggie Smith (I) (Actress)

are both/all credited.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

tim - i was called out for this on my lj as well - my response was basically that i love 'stars are blind' despite it being cod-reggae, and also because paris hilton has absolutely no investment in its cod-reggaeness whatsoever. whereas lollen's songs aren't good enough to transcend the inherent wrongness of ska, and it seems to be quite important that they are ska because of what ska signifies, if that makes sense.

i don't like the spitefulness in 'ldn' towards poor people but i would probably like the spitefulness directed at men - i have not heard any of the latter.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

add ce'cile and lil kim to list of excellent lady popstars

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

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