Don't go for second best, baby. Put your ILM ARTIST POLL #31: MADONNA to the test.

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I actually agree a bit with you DJP in that I think "Vogue" is the sound of her trying on a genre and making it look couture, whereas "Deeper and Deeper" finds her appropriately unsettled. She's not in the driver's seat in the latter, and it terrifies her.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

lex OTM

+ it works in the narrative of the song - she's not just listened to her mothers advice and gone headfirst into love, but become her own mother, and instead of instructing how to sing like her mother did ("when you know the notes to sing you can sing most anything" which is in ITSELF a callback reference obv, they parallel) now she's instructing herself how to DANCE, which is so immesurabley greater

prolego, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

man there are so many callbacks in the madonna discography

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

how much would it enrage ppl if I let slip that I like "Fever" a ton more than "Deeper and Deeper"

Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

that's what Erotica does, right? She records a genre record, choosing points of view with which she's also unfamiliar.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

You see, that's why the "Beautiful Stranger" video is so good--she's not in the driver's seat, and it terrifies her.

clemenza, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

hahahahahahahahaha

Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

Can you post the last two together JF? I need my dinner!

Jeff W, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:32 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ clemenza

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

lol bravo

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

how much would it enrage ppl if I let slip that I like "Fever" a ton more than "Deeper and Deeper"

Not at all.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

those defending D&D have yet to explain how it deserves top 3. beautiful stranger sounds like sub-britney IMO

billstevejim, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

LOL british cars

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

"fever" is great! kinda surprised it didn't place

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

i'm one of the eight who had 'deeper and deeper' #1, sometimes my fave piece of pop music ever. had 'borderline' number two - there's a reason that was the breakthrough.

balls, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

I appreciate that the overarching sound of the Erotica album is just something that will never jibe with my personal taste, but wouldn't supporters of that record even admit that, in 1992, she'd crawled up her own ass and was indulging in immense Madonna-ness to the point of alienation of her typical chart pop fans? I guess she'd earned that right, but there's really just no entry into it for me (though I did come to appreciate "Words" more in the past couple weeks). "Bad Girl" and "Rain" I kind of leave out of this equation, because they're more traditional pop ballad styles.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

those defending D&D have yet to explain how it deserves top 3

more people voted for it?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

i mean okay i guess we didn't need more erotica

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

the middle eight of "deeper and deeper" really is the most perfectly told story within the song - you have no idea where she's going with it, it's so finely paced and each line only moves it forward a tiny bit, it's like when you're lost and drunk in an unfamiliar club and you're pushing your way through the bodies, and then "AND I'M NEVER GONNA HIDE IT AGAIN" is the moment when you just fall into the dancefloor, the place you're meant to be

then, the flamenco drop

that actually definitely is my favourite moment in all of pop music ever

r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

wouldn't supporters of that record even admit that, in 1992, she'd crawled up her own ass and was indulging in immense Madonna-ness to the point of alienation of her typical chart pop fans?

Nah. It's her Low.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

Because it's fucking amazing, xps

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

beautiful stranger sounds like "the joy of cola"

billstevejim, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

but wouldn't supporters of that record even admit that, in 1992, she'd crawled up her own ass and was indulging in immense Madonna-ness

no

the title track maybe

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

"fever" should come at -20 or something, in accordance with its temperature - the iciest thing ever

prolego, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

lex I'll give you $10 if you change your dn to flamenco drop

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

r&b flamenco drop

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

doesn't tim finney have a long otm post about deeper and deeper somewhere on ilm that we can drop on the haters and be done with this already

horseshoe, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

wouldn't supporters of that record even admit that, in 1992, she'd crawled up her own ass and was indulging in immense Madonna-ness to the point of alienation of her typical chart pop fans?

erotica was chart pop! house beats were all over the charts in the early 90s, my first ever music purchase was a 40-strong compilation of them, and those beats were my first mainstream chart love

r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

does anyone else's copy of the Like A Prayer vinyl album still smell of Patchouli? mine *just about* does. pretty amazing since it was a release-day purchase.

piscesx, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:36 (thirteen years ago)

lex I'll give you $10 if you change your dn to flamenco drop

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, March 11, 2013 8:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i need no encouragement

r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

if Erotica had come packaged with a smell it would be of sweat-moist dancefloor dick

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

lex otm, at any rate. the sheer brassy desperation of the delivery of "mama couldn't be aaaaaaaaaaaaaaall wrooooooooooong" the first time the chorus comes around still makes me thrill. what a great song.

horseshoe, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

uh, "daddy" of course. o_O at me.

horseshoe, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

it basically sounds like Shep Pettibone stuck a microphone up his ass and then Madonna sang some lyrics into it
DJP, that's the second time you made me LOL tonight about something poopy. The first time was something about a wet fart I believe.

Re: 'Beautiful Stranger': the dananadanana hook > the high acid-bubbly synth in the bridge > the low acid-bubbly synth in the verses >>>> the whole of Erotica.

ArchCarrier, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

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02. "OPEN YOUR HEART" from True Blue (1986) [44 votes, 1,167 points, 2 first place votes]

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01. "INTO THE GROOVE" from the single Into the Groove (1985) [48 votes, 1,330 points, 6 first place votes]

Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

righteous

C: (crüt), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

hurrah!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

the dananadanana hook

ripped off from Love's "She Comes In Colors."

Still, one of my favorite Madonna songs.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

i like #3 better than #2 better than #1 but still #1 feels most right of all

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

Great ending--if "Holiday" wasn't going to be there, that's the next best 1-2.

clemenza, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

Can we talk about how the first couple minute of the 12" extended version of "Open Your Heart" is almost Balearic? Yum.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

can we talk about my poor subject-verb agreement

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

i am calling all of you Erotica haters "Bitch" to the sound of breaking glass in my head

horseshoe, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

both too low!

fact checking cuz, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

most of the Erotica singles drastically underperformed in the US pop charts; "Erotica" (3) and "Deeper and Deeper" (7) were the only ones to crack the top ten, "Rain" stalled at 14 and "Bad Girl" barely scraped into the charts at 36, while "Fever" and "Bye Bye Baby" didn't chart at all

so, while there was definitely stuff in the pop charts mining this territory, most people over here were turning towards someone else besides Madonna for it

very righteous and well-deserved 1-2

Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

"Open Your Heart" my #1.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Perfect 1-2!

skip, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

"into the groove" is the greatest song of all time.

horseshoe, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

Into the Groove was my #1 and Open Your Heart was #7, though it could easily have been higher.

skip, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

recap

50. "WORDS" from Erotica (1992) [7 votes, 136 points]
49. "I'LL REMEMBER" from the motion picture soundtrack With Honors (1994) [6 votes, 142 points]
48. "THE POWER OF GOOD-BYE" from Ray of Light (1998) [8 votes, 144 points]
47. "KEEP IT TOGETHER" from Like a Prayer (1989) [9 votes, 148 points]
46. "DIE ANOTHER DAY" from the motion picture soundtrack Die Another Day (2002) [7 votes, 149 points]
(TIE) 44. "WHITE HEAT" from True Blue (1986) [7 votes, 161 points]
(TIE) 44. "SECRET GARDEN" from Erotica (1992) [7 votes, 161 points]
43. "WAITING" from Erotica (1992) [8 votes, 189 points]
42. "WHO'S THAT GIRL" from the motion picture soundtrack Who's That Girl (1987) [11 votes, 194 points]
41. "PHYSICAL ATTRACTION" from Madonna (1983) [10 votes, 195 points]
40. "CAUSING A COMMOTION" from the motion picture soundtrack Who's That Girl (1987) [11 votes, 201 points]
39. "RAIN" from Erotica (1992) [11 votes, 217 points]
38. "BEDTIME STORY" from Bedtime Stories (1994) [13 votes, 238 points]
37. "TRUE BLUE" from True Blue (1986) [12 votes, 240 points, 1 first place vote]
36. "GET TOGETHER" from Confessions on a Dance Floor (2005) [11 votes, 246 points, 1 first place vote]

35. "EROTICA" from Erotica (1992) [12 votes, 263 points]
34. "DON'T TELL ME" from Music (2000) [15 votes, 284 points]
33. "MATERIAL GIRL" from Like a Virgin (1984) [14 votes, 307 points, 1 first place vote]
32. "MUSIC" from Music (2000) [16 votes, 309 points]
31. "LIKE A VIRGIN" from Like a Virgin (1984) [17 votes, 334 points, 1 first place vote]
30. "TILL DEATH DO US PART" from Like a Prayer (1989) [16 votes, 337 points]
29. "EVERYBODY" from Everybody 12"/Madonna (1982,83) [15 votes, 344 points]
28. "SECRET" from Bedtime Stories (1994) [16 votes, 349 points]
27. "LA ISLA BONITA" from True Blue (1986) [18 votes, 367 points, 1 first place vote]
26. "WHAT IT FEELS LIKE FOR A GIRL" from Music (2000) [19 votes, 378 points]
25. "FROZEN" from Ray of Light (1998) [18 votes, 381 points]
24. "TAKE A BOW" from Bedtime Stories (1994) [20 votes, 403 points]
23. "ANGEL" from Like a Virgin (1984) [18 votes, 409 points]
22. "BAD GIRL" from Erotica (1992) [17 votes, 415 points]
21. "OH FATHER" from Like a Prayer (1989) [18 votes, 424 points, 1 first place vote]

20. "BEAUTIFUL STRANGER" from the motion picture soundtrack Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me (1999) [17

votes, 435 points, 1 first place vote]
19. "EXPRESS YOURSELF" from Like a Prayer (1989) [21 votes, 457 points]
18. "CHERISH" from Like a Prayer (1989) [22 votes, 463 points, 1 first place vote]
17. "HUMAN NATURE" from Bedtime Stories (1994) [21 votes, 465 points, 1 first place vote]
16. "DRESS YOU UP" from Like a Virgin (1984) [24 votes, 553 points, 1 first place vote]
15. "JUSTIFY MY LOVE" from The Immaculate Collection (1990) [26 votes, 567 points]
14. "HUNG UP" from Confessions on a Dance Floor (2005) [26 votes, 600 points, 1 first place vote]
13. "PAPA DON'T PREACH" from True Blue (1986) [29 votes, 602 points, 1 first place vote]
12. "RAY OF LIGHT" from Ray of Light (1998) [26 votes, 615 points, 1 first place vote]
11. "CRAZY FOR YOU" from the motion picture soundtrack Vision Quest (1985) [31 votes, 670 points, 1 first place

vote]
10. "VOGUE" from I'm Breathless (1990) [29 votes, 697 points, 2 first place votes]
09. "HOLIDAY" from Madonna (1983) [30 votes, 753 points, 3 first place votes]
08. "BURNING UP" from Madonna (1983) [29 votes, 756 points, 3 first place votes]
07. "LUCKY STAR" from Madonna (1983) [32 votes, 805 points, 3 first place votes]
06. "LIKE A PRAYER" from Like a Prayer (1989) [39 votes, 938 points, 2 first place votes]
05. "LIVE TO TELL" from True Blue (1986) [35 votes, 970 points, 5 first place votes]
04. "BORDERLINE" from Madonna (1983) [33 votes, 1,009 points, 7 first place votes]
03. "DEEPER AND DEEPER" from Erotica (1992) [42 votes, 1,110 points, 8 first place votes]
02. "OPEN YOUR HEART" from True Blue (1986) [44 votes, 1,167 points, 2 first place votes]
01. "INTO THE GROOVE" from the single Into the Groove (1985) [48 votes, 1,330 points, 6 first place votes]

Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:43 (thirteen years ago)


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